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I would think that Slash is a pretty huge Keith fan
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I would think that Slash is a pretty huge Keith fan
More of a Ronnie fan (and friend), I'd say. However, Michael Jackson (who wrote the tune) was definitely NOT a Stones (or Mick) fan
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I would think that Slash is a pretty huge Keith fan
More of a Ronnie fan (and friend), I'd say. However, Michael Jackson (who wrote the tune) was definitely NOT a Stones (or Mick) fan
If you analyse several Slash solos you'll discover that many melodic lines, bendings and pullings are coming straight from Taylor's kitchen. I bet he knows Brussels'73 by heart. Slash himself has stated that Taylor had a considerable musical impact on him. Of course he's a different generation's guitarist.
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I would think that Slash is a pretty huge Keith fan
More of a Ronnie fan (and friend), I'd say. However, Michael Jackson (who wrote the tune) was definitely NOT a Stones (or Mick) fan
If you analyse several Slash solos you'll discover that many melodic lines, bendings and pullings are coming straight from Taylor's kitchen. I bet he knows Brussels'73 by heart. Slash himself has stated that Taylor had a considerable musical impact on him. Of course he's a different generation's guitarist.
True, but now we were discussing It Must Be Hell.
He's a mix of Taylor and Reinhardt
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Great, catchy song from the last real Stones album.
I enjoyed Undercover more than most, it had a great vibe to it.
I always interpreted this song to be about the hells we create, sometimes in our own minds. I kinda hear the Zen/Buddhist/Christian exhortation to wake up and see that this can be heaven if we let it.
Anyway, Mick has always enjoyed his life no matter what shit goes on. One of the things the Stones are about.
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this is my absolute favourite cover of Soul Survivor by anyone.
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I would think that Slash is a pretty huge Keith fan
More of a Ronnie fan (and friend), I'd say. However, Michael Jackson (who wrote the tune) was definitely NOT a Stones (or Mick) fan
If you analyse several Slash solos you'll discover that many melodic lines, bendings and pullings are coming straight from Taylor's kitchen. I bet he knows Brussels'73 by heart. Slash himself has stated that Taylor had a considerable musical impact on him. Of course he's a different generation's guitarist.
True, but now we were discussing It Must Be Hell.
He's a mix of Taylor and Reinhardt
In this last post you were speculating about Slash's relation to Stones guitarist /him being a Wood or Richard fan.
Re Reinhardt I assume you are joking.
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this is my absolute favourite cover of Soul Survivor by anyone.
Yeah but it doesnt sound like the Stones except for the guitarist who actually does sound like Keith. But pretty lame to just steal a riff away.
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On which song was this riff the best: It Must Be Hell, Soul Survivor or Rock And A Hard Place?
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If that counts, I'd say Whatever You Want
At least Michael's boys were inspired by the riff mentioned above.
I'm not sure if Slash and Michael were that into Soul Survivor.
Rick was more likely to be influenced by the Stones.
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On which song was this riff the best: It Must Be Hell, Soul Survivor or Rock And A Hard Place?
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If that counts, I'd say Whatever You Want
At least Michael's boys were inspired by the riff mentioned above.
I'm not sure if Slash and Michael were that into Soul Survivor.
Rick was more likely to be influenced by the Stones.
I cannot imagine that Slash doesn't know EOMS. Without albums like this there had never been a band like Guns'n Roses.
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On which song was this riff the best: It Must Be Hell, Soul Survivor or Rock And A Hard Place?
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If that counts, I'd say Whatever You Want
At least Michael's boys were inspired by the riff mentioned above.
I'm not sure if Slash and Michael were that into Soul Survivor.
Rick was more likely to be influenced by the Stones.
I cannot imagine that Slash doesn't know EOMS. Without albums like this there had never been a band like Guns'n Roses.
I think albums like Rocks and Two Steps From The Move were more important for GnR.
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On which song was this riff the best: It Must Be Hell, Soul Survivor or Rock And A Hard Place?
Black Or White
If that counts, I'd say Whatever You Want
At least Michael's boys were inspired by the riff mentioned above.
I'm not sure if Slash and Michael were that into Soul Survivor.
Rick was more likely to be influenced by the Stones.
I cannot imagine that Slash doesn't know EOMS. Without albums like this there had never been a band like Guns'n Roses.
I think albums like Rocks and Two Steps From The Move were more important for GnR.
Too be honest I've never heard about Hanoi Rocks before ;-)
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I would think that Slash is a pretty huge Keith fan
More of a Ronnie fan (and friend), I'd say. However, Michael Jackson (who wrote the tune) was definitely NOT a Stones (or Mick) fan
If you analyse several Slash solos you'll discover that many melodic lines, bendings and pullings are coming straight from Taylor's kitchen. I bet he knows Brussels'73 by heart. Slash himself has stated that Taylor had a considerable musical impact on him. Of course he's a different generation's guitarist.
True, but now we were discussing It Must Be Hell.
He's a mix of Taylor and Reinhardt
In this last post you were speculating about Slash's relation to Stones guitarist /him being a Wood or Richard fan.
Re Reinhardt I assume you are joking.
Connected to the topic of this thread.
Joking? Not at all. Listen to (parts of) the scales he blends into his pentatonic blues stuff. Bob Dylan agrees with me
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A forgettable non-entity, as I have forgotten it and am none the worse.
The best advice I can give you: grab that Undercover CD, and play it really loud. Open up your mind to some 'new' Stones, and find that the album actually is much stronger than you remembered. Great lyrics, great singing, great grooves, and the last album where the Stones still meant danger.
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If you want underrated 1980 stones try Too Much Blood. I like it. I have great memories of a summer with the Rewind video on constant replay in the background.
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If you want underrated 1980 stones try Too Much Blood. I like it. I have great memories of a summer with the Rewind video on constant replay in the background.
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matxil
It's one of the low-points of Undercover, together with Wanna Hold You, Too Tight and All The Way Down. Which is such a pity because the rest of the album is really very good, especially Tie You Up and Feel On Baby.
I can see how people might like "Must Be Hell", because yeah, that thundering Soul Survivor riff is cool, and the Honky Tonk Women chorus hiccups too. But then, luckily, those two songs are still available, so why listen to Must Be Hell? More than anything, it shows the Stones had started occasionally to give up trying. "Oh well, it ain't that bad, let's put it on the album".
To answer Dandelion's question, the riff works the best on Soul Survivor because it works as a climax there, it gives the song speed and dynamics and most importantly, it swings.
I sort of like it on Rock and A Hard Place, because it has a completely different feel there, it actually works nicely as a built-up before and as a climax after the bridge.
On Must Be Hell it's just a very static pattern that adds nothing.