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Yes, I understand that was a slide solo, but, hell, its harder to do that in slide! It seems that Brian and Keith had an agreement from the beginning that Brian would do all the slide stuff and Keith all the standard guitar solos.
The genius of this solo is the aggression to it.
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Palace Revolution 2000
Hee hee - please, not the dreaded "Jigsaw Puzzle" debate again!
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Come On
It's always Brian on slide and Bill on bass except for when it happens to be Keith on Bass and since you never can now which we must live with that...
I'll bet Paul played a lot more on Beatles records than what we can read in books...even drums and guitar...
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DandelionPowderman
Some of the nicest slide work was done by Keith, imo. Love In Vain comes to mind.
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DandelionPowderman
Some of the nicest slide work was done by Keith, imo. Love In Vain comes to mind.
Presumably that's him on Midnight Rambler too? I know it's just a simple little riff, but I always miss that on live versions.
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DandelionPowderman
Some of the nicest slide work was done by Keith, imo. Love In Vain comes to mind.
Presumably that's him on Midnight Rambler too? I know it's just a simple little riff, but I always miss that on live versions.
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Come On
Yeah, but 1969 is beyond Brian-time....
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His Majesty
Regarding who plays slide on Jigsaw Puzzle, the Satanic Sessions bootleg CD featuring them recording it leaves no doubt as to who the slide player is. I never really thought it was Brian and the CD confirmed that, but it also revealed that Bill played the bass, which did suprise me as I thought for years that it was Keith who played bass on the track.
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buffalo7478
I am wondering if Brian pushing Keith and vice versa propelled the instrumental side of the group early.
Brian going off and being maybe more interested in psychedelia and non-guitar sounds led to the lull in how they rocked in 67-68.
The Mick Taylor joins and you have a second guitarist to push Keith again and they enter the golden age.
Even on some of the stuff where it is Keith playing...not Brian or Taylor...was Keith's soloing and rhythm playing stronger when he had another guitarist pushing him, musically?
Not a slag on Brian or Taylor. It just seems to me that Keith was at his best early on with a healthy Brian, and then again with a healthy Taylor, than he has been at other times.
In sports, teams have a most valuable player award. It often goes to the 'star' of the team, but to me, the most valuable player is the one that gets everyone else around him to perform much better, and that is more important than any individual performance. Was Brian that for the early Stones?
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Blue
Brian plays the main riff ... I guess it does sound whiny!
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Blue
Brian plays the main riff ... I guess it does sound whiny!
It's a Rick 12. I never thought of it as whiny. It's a good part. Simple and effective.
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Blue
Brian plays the main riff ... I guess it does sound whiny!
It's a Rick 12. I never thought of it as whiny. It's a good part. Simple and effective.
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Blue
Brian plays the main riff ... I guess it does sound whiny!
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buffalo7478
I am wondering if Brian pushing Keith and vice versa propelled the instrumental side of the group early.
Brian going off and being maybe more interested in psychedelia and non-guitar sounds led to the lull in how they rocked in 67-68.
The Mick Taylor joins and you have a second guitarist to push Keith again and they enter the golden age.
Even on some of the stuff where it is Keith playing...not Brian or Taylor...was Keith's soloing and rhythm playing stronger when he had another guitarist pushing him, musically?
Not a slag on Brian or Taylor. It just seems to me that Keith was at his best early on with a healthy Brian, and then again with a healthy Taylor, than he has been at other times.
In sports, teams have a most valuable player award. It often goes to the 'star' of the team, but to me, the most valuable player is the one that gets everyone else around him to perform much better, and that is more important than any individual performance. Was Brian that for the early Stones?
They didn't rock in 1968???
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buffalo7478
I am wondering if Brian pushing Keith and vice versa propelled the instrumental side of the group early.
Brian going off and being maybe more interested in psychedelia and non-guitar sounds led to the lull in how they rocked in 67-68.
The Mick Taylor joins and you have a second guitarist to push Keith again and they enter the golden age.
Even on some of the stuff where it is Keith playing...not Brian or Taylor...was Keith's soloing and rhythm playing stronger when he had another guitarist pushing him, musically?
Not a slag on Brian or Taylor. It just seems to me that Keith was at his best early on with a healthy Brian, and then again with a healthy Taylor, than he has been at other times.
In sports, teams have a most valuable player award. It often goes to the 'star' of the team, but to me, the most valuable player is the one that gets everyone else around him to perform much better, and that is more important than any individual performance. Was Brian that for the early Stones?
They didn't rock in 1968???
I should have said 67/68...though great, Ruby Tuesday and LSTNT were not really guitar, driven rock. And Satanic Majesties came out in late 67, early 68.
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His Majesty
Regarding who plays slide on Jigsaw Puzzle, the Satanic Sessions bootleg CD featuring them recording it leaves no doubt as to who the slide player is. I never really thought it was Brian and the CD confirmed that, but it also revealed that Bill played the bass, which did suprise me as I thought for years that it was Keith who played bass on the track.