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Never noticed the guy even when he was there.
Still managed to upstage an all-star cast in the greatest concert movie ever made.
When I listen to "It's Too Late to Stop Now" I don't see how anybody can say this guy is boring. There's something there that is just missing in, say, Don Henley or that band he's in. This guy is tapped into something primal. He doesn't move around or leap or whatever...but, well...okay. I just like the guy, even live.
The boring bass player is practically a tradition in British bands:
Wyman
Entwistle
John Paul Jones
(Maybe Harrison should have been the Beatles bass player?? )
Yeah, okay, I'm with you on this. I tend to agree, although, I must confess, I've never seen MT live, or Oasis live. But I'll take your word for it based on those you consider great on stage. I've seen all of most of those you mention, and have enjoyed their shows for sometimes very different reasons. There are many others I'd put in the 'great on stage' category, but certainly no quarrels with those you've mentioned here. My first time seeing Springsteen I nearly came in my pants. Circa '80. I was determined I'd hate his show. Well...I didn't.
I never said he was boring. His music and soulfulness can hardly be matched. I was talking about his stage appearance. His music moves me, but being at a live show of his is about his music, I could close my eyes during the show and still have the same affect.
Yeah, okay, I'm with ya. I have the same response to, say, Chet Atkins way back in the day (50's and 60's). He was mindblowing. He played music to be listenend to and appreciated. He was a bump on a log as a performer, but yet, it was astounding some of the stuff he was actually performing!
I'm surprised how few are mentioning the 50s rock 'n' roll acts & the 60s soul acts at their peaks: Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Gene Vincent, Ray Charles, Howlin' Wolf, James Brown, Sam & Dave, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, The Four Tops, Little Stevie Wonder...these could ALL give any later rock / pop acts a run for their money.
I'd also add some of the glam rock era acts: David Bowie, Slade, The Sweet, Gary Glitter, T. Rex, Suzi Quatro & Alice Cooper were all great live.
Entwhistle's fingers certainly weren't boring.
"No Anchovies, Please"
I've always liked the contrast with bands like the RS / The Who / LZ. Much more interesting than if every musician on stage is jumping around & posing.
This is very true. Just look at Muddy Waters here. He's just standing in one spot, but he's in total command of the stage.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-08-07 21:54 by tatters.
And he has a lousy voice
I bet you never found Fats boring though.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
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Date: August 5, 2011 15:31
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mrD
Nobody mentioned Bill Wyman, Did anyone ever see him moving on stage? (except walking on and off). Even Mark Knopfler seems to move more.
Never noticed the guy even when he was there.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Claire_M
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Date: August 5, 2011 16:52
Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood (well, he's not really boring, but a little shy & awkward sometimes)
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
ineedadrink
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Date: August 5, 2011 16:56
somebody mentioned bill wyman. good eye.Quote
mrD
Nobody mentioned Bill Wyman, Did anyone ever see him moving on stage? (except walking on and off). Even Mark Knopfler seems to move more.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
BluzDude
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Date: August 5, 2011 19:05
Van the Man.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
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Date: August 5, 2011 19:15
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BluzDude
Van the Man.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
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Max'sKansasCity
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Date: August 6, 2011 02:10
HAHAHAHA.... best laugh all day, thanksQuote
JumpingKentFlash
The deal with the white mask was that he was listening to one of his own albums while eating a plate of yoghurt.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: August 6, 2011 02:16
What was the deal with the mime makeup?
.........The opposite of minstrel show blackface makeup?
Yeah that's probably it Loog ... Dylan's disguised nod to guys
like Emmett Miller -- Jolson and a stack of other blackface performers...
Then most likely a later nod to Eric Lott's ---- Love & Theft read ....
ROCKMAN
.........The opposite of minstrel show blackface makeup?
Yeah that's probably it Loog ... Dylan's disguised nod to guys
like Emmett Miller -- Jolson and a stack of other blackface performers...
Then most likely a later nod to Eric Lott's ---- Love & Theft read ....
ROCKMAN
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: August 6, 2011 02:35
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BluzDude
Van the Man.
Still managed to upstage an all-star cast in the greatest concert movie ever made.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Midnight Toker
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Date: August 6, 2011 08:26
clapton
dylan
dylan
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
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Date: August 6, 2011 08:38
Van Morrison has great presence.
I have to say I think of Rich Robinson; the most boring person on stage,
I have to say I think of Rich Robinson; the most boring person on stage,
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
rocker1
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Date: August 6, 2011 08:42
Quote
GazzaQuote
BluzDude
Van the Man.
Still managed to upstage an all-star cast in the greatest concert movie ever made.
When I listen to "It's Too Late to Stop Now" I don't see how anybody can say this guy is boring. There's something there that is just missing in, say, Don Henley or that band he's in. This guy is tapped into something primal. He doesn't move around or leap or whatever...but, well...okay. I just like the guy, even live.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
loog droog
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Date: August 6, 2011 08:43
Quote
mrD
Nobody mentioned Bill Wyman, Did anyone ever see him moving on stage? (except walking on and off).
The boring bass player is practically a tradition in British bands:
Wyman
Entwistle
John Paul Jones
(Maybe Harrison should have been the Beatles bass player?? )
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Doc
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Date: August 6, 2011 08:46
Great on Stage : Stones, Queen, ACDC, KISS, Alice Cooper, Metallica, Aerosmith, Iron Maiden, Prince, Buddy Guy, Lucky Peterson, The Darkness, Springsteen
Boring, but with nice lights : Pink Floyd, Muse, U2
Horrible : Santana, Clapton, Mick Taylor, Oasis,
[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]
Boring, but with nice lights : Pink Floyd, Muse, U2
Horrible : Santana, Clapton, Mick Taylor, Oasis,
[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
rocker1
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Date: August 6, 2011 08:53
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Doc
Great on Stage : Stones, Queen, ACDC, KISS, Alice Cooper, Metallica, Aerosmith, Iron Maiden, Prince, Buddy Guy, Lucky Peterson, The Darkness, Springsteen
Boring, but with nice lights : Pink Floyd, Muse, U2
Horrible : Santana, Clapton, Mick Taylor, Oasis,
Yeah, okay, I'm with you on this. I tend to agree, although, I must confess, I've never seen MT live, or Oasis live. But I'll take your word for it based on those you consider great on stage. I've seen all of most of those you mention, and have enjoyed their shows for sometimes very different reasons. There are many others I'd put in the 'great on stage' category, but certainly no quarrels with those you've mentioned here. My first time seeing Springsteen I nearly came in my pants. Circa '80. I was determined I'd hate his show. Well...I didn't.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
BluzDude
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Date: August 6, 2011 09:30
Quote
rocker1Quote
GazzaQuote
BluzDude
Van the Man.
Still managed to upstage an all-star cast in the greatest concert movie ever made.
When I listen to "It's Too Late to Stop Now" I don't see how anybody can say this guy is boring. There's something there that is just missing in, say, Don Henley or that band he's in. This guy is tapped into something primal. He doesn't move around or leap or whatever...but, well...okay. I just like the guy, even live.
I never said he was boring. His music and soulfulness can hardly be matched. I was talking about his stage appearance. His music moves me, but being at a live show of his is about his music, I could close my eyes during the show and still have the same affect.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
rocker1
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Date: August 6, 2011 10:52
Quote
BluzDudeQuote
rocker1Quote
GazzaQuote
BluzDude
Van the Man.
Still managed to upstage an all-star cast in the greatest concert movie ever made.
When I listen to "It's Too Late to Stop Now" I don't see how anybody can say this guy is boring. There's something there that is just missing in, say, Don Henley or that band he's in. This guy is tapped into something primal. He doesn't move around or leap or whatever...but, well...okay. I just like the guy, even live.
I never said he was boring. His music and soulfulness can hardly be matched. I was talking about his stage appearance. His music moves me, but being at a live show of his is about his music, I could close my eyes during the show and still have the same affect.
Yeah, okay, I'm with ya. I have the same response to, say, Chet Atkins way back in the day (50's and 60's). He was mindblowing. He played music to be listenend to and appreciated. He was a bump on a log as a performer, but yet, it was astounding some of the stuff he was actually performing!
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
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Date: August 6, 2011 11:01
Quote
Doc
Great on Stage : Stones, Queen, ACDC, KISS, Alice Cooper, Metallica, Aerosmith, Iron Maiden, Prince, Buddy Guy, Lucky Peterson, The Darkness, Springsteen
Boring, but with nice lights : Pink Floyd, Muse, U2
Horrible : Santana, Clapton, Mick Taylor, Oasis,
I'm surprised how few are mentioning the 50s rock 'n' roll acts & the 60s soul acts at their peaks: Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Gene Vincent, Ray Charles, Howlin' Wolf, James Brown, Sam & Dave, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, The Four Tops, Little Stevie Wonder...these could ALL give any later rock / pop acts a run for their money.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
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Date: August 6, 2011 11:12
Quote
Sleepy CityQuote
Doc
Great on Stage : Stones, Queen, ACDC, KISS, Alice Cooper, Metallica, Aerosmith, Iron Maiden, Prince, Buddy Guy, Lucky Peterson, The Darkness, Springsteen
Boring, but with nice lights : Pink Floyd, Muse, U2
Horrible : Santana, Clapton, Mick Taylor, Oasis,
I'm surprised how few are mentioning the 50s rock 'n' roll acts & the 60s soul acts at their peaks: Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Gene Vincent, Ray Charles, Howlin' Wolf, James Brown, Sam & Dave, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, The Four Tops, Little Stevie Wonder...these could ALL give any later rock / pop acts a run for their money.
I'd also add some of the glam rock era acts: David Bowie, Slade, The Sweet, Gary Glitter, T. Rex, Suzi Quatro & Alice Cooper were all great live.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: August 6, 2011 16:30
Quote
loog droogQuote
mrD
Nobody mentioned Bill Wyman, Did anyone ever see him moving on stage? (except walking on and off).
The boring bass player is practically a tradition in British bands:
Wyman
Entwistle
John Paul Jones
(Maybe Harrison should have been the Beatles bass player?? )
Entwhistle's fingers certainly weren't boring.
"No Anchovies, Please"
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: August 6, 2011 16:33
Quote
loog droogQuote
mrD
Nobody mentioned Bill Wyman, Did anyone ever see him moving on stage? (except walking on and off).
The boring bass player is practically a tradition in British bands:
Wyman
Entwistle
John Paul Jones
(Maybe Harrison should have been the Beatles bass player?? )
I've always liked the contrast with bands like the RS / The Who / LZ. Much more interesting than if every musician on stage is jumping around & posing.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Send It To me
()
Date: August 7, 2011 20:17
Paul Simon is someone I love and have seen live about 5 times. He hasn't figured out how to make his live shows work. He adopted a Miles Davis "here it is, either you like it or you don't" attitude that worked for Miles but doesn't work for him. At age 69, he is still looking for a stage identity.
Presence doesn't have to do with dancing, either. Leonard Cohen has a great presence and he doesn't move much.
Presence doesn't have to do with dancing, either. Leonard Cohen has a great presence and he doesn't move much.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
tatters
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Date: August 7, 2011 20:48
Quote
Send It To me
Presence doesn't have to do with dancing, either. Leonard Cohen has a great presence and he doesn't move much.
This is very true. Just look at Muddy Waters here. He's just standing in one spot, but he's in total command of the stage.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-08-07 21:54 by tatters.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Come On
()
Date: August 7, 2011 20:50
I can't see why Clapton is more boring than for example Zappa were, and who dare to critisize Frank?
Nowadays I think Knopfler is boring on stage but that's because his music is boring...
2 1 2 0
Nowadays I think Knopfler is boring on stage but that's because his music is boring...
2 1 2 0
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: August 7, 2011 21:47
Quote
Come On
I can't see why Clapton is more boring than for example Zappa were, and who dare to critisize Frank?
Nowadays I think Knopfler is boring on stage but that's because his music is boring...
And he has a lousy voice
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
virgil
()
Date: August 8, 2011 01:41
R E M pretty boring on stage
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: August 8, 2011 02:00
R E M even more boring off stage
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Glam Descendant
()
Date: August 8, 2011 04:39
>R E M pretty boring on stage
Rubbish
Rubbish
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
loog droog
()
Date: August 9, 2011 14:56
I just read a comment in the thread about Sing This All Together / Revolution No. 9 about the influence of Fats Domino.
And it reminded me about the time I saw Fats in L.A. at a memorable show in 1985 that was taped for video and opened by Rick (AKA Ricky ) Nelson.
I LOVED Ricky Nelson as a little kid. My family used to watch the Ozzie and Harriet TV show, and my favorite part would be at the end whenever they would run a clip of him (with James Burton in the band! ) playing his latest hit.
Nelson's performances--and especially his Mom Harriet's endorsements of not just him but the entire genre--are credited by many as playing a major role in putting rock n' roll over in the 50's.
Making it "safe?" Perhaps. But the records Nelson made--under the supervision of his ex-bandleader Dad Ozzie--were great tunes that put him heads above all the other Elvis wanna-be's that floated around at the time.
In the 70's I read in Rolling Stone that Ricky Nelson records on the radio were an early influence on.....Bob Marley when he was growing up! That was a WTF?? moment.
At any rate, years later when I finally saw Nelson perform live at the show he co-headlined with Fats Domino, HE WAS THE MOST BORING PERFORMER I'VE EVER SEEN!!
Love the guy, but he just had zero stage presence.
A few months later, he was dead.
And it reminded me about the time I saw Fats in L.A. at a memorable show in 1985 that was taped for video and opened by Rick (AKA Ricky ) Nelson.
I LOVED Ricky Nelson as a little kid. My family used to watch the Ozzie and Harriet TV show, and my favorite part would be at the end whenever they would run a clip of him (with James Burton in the band! ) playing his latest hit.
Nelson's performances--and especially his Mom Harriet's endorsements of not just him but the entire genre--are credited by many as playing a major role in putting rock n' roll over in the 50's.
Making it "safe?" Perhaps. But the records Nelson made--under the supervision of his ex-bandleader Dad Ozzie--were great tunes that put him heads above all the other Elvis wanna-be's that floated around at the time.
In the 70's I read in Rolling Stone that Ricky Nelson records on the radio were an early influence on.....Bob Marley when he was growing up! That was a WTF?? moment.
At any rate, years later when I finally saw Nelson perform live at the show he co-headlined with Fats Domino, HE WAS THE MOST BORING PERFORMER I'VE EVER SEEN!!
Love the guy, but he just had zero stage presence.
A few months later, he was dead.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: August 9, 2011 15:11
Quote
loog droog
I just read a comment in the thread about Sing This All Together / Revolution No. 9 about the influence of Fats Domino.
And it reminded me about the time I saw Fats in L.A. at a memorable show in 1985 that was taped for video and opened by Rick (AKA Ricky ) Nelson.
I LOVED Ricky Nelson as a little kid. My family used to watch the Ozzie and Harriet TV show, and my favorite part would be at the end whenever they would run a clip of him (with James Burton in the band! ) playing his latest hit.
Nelson's performances--and especially his Mom Harriet's endorsements of not just him but the entire genre--are credited by many as playing a major role in putting rock n' roll over in the 50's.
Making it "safe?" Perhaps. But the records Nelson made--under the supervision of his ex-bandleader Dad Ozzie--were great tunes that put him heads above all the other Elvis wanna-be's that floated around at the time.
In the 70's I read in Rolling Stone that Ricky Nelson records on the radio were an early influence on.....Bob Marley when he was growing up! That was a WTF?? moment.
At any rate, years later when I finally saw Nelson perform live at the show he co-headlined with Fats Domino, HE WAS THE MOST BORING PERFORMER I'VE EVER SEEN!!
Love the guy, but he just had zero stage presence.
A few months later, he was dead.
I bet you never found Fats boring though.
Re: OT.Good Musicians who have Boring Stage Presence?
Posted by:
CousinC
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Date: August 9, 2011 16:26
Well, 69 - 71 they all had a kinda boring stage presence . .
That was the Zeitgeist before glamrock changed it again.
That was the Zeitgeist before glamrock changed it again.
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