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Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: June 6, 2011 21:37

Love this song...they should have played it live more. Years ahead of its time


Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 6, 2011 21:42

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Love this song...they should have played it live more. Years ahead of its time

"More"? I was unaware they played it live at all. eye popping smiley

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: June 6, 2011 22:00

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Love this song...they should have played it live more. Years ahead of its time

"More"? I was unaware they played it live at all. eye popping smiley

Lol, yes you are probably correct...I haven't heard it live at all!


Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Wry Cooter ()
Date: June 6, 2011 22:06

Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: microvibe ()
Date: June 6, 2011 22:27

mick taylors slide playing is killer.best cover they did

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 6, 2011 22:51

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Wry Cooter
Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: phd ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:02

I did not know that it was a cover. Anyway a great song with powerful guitar. Thanks for the sleeve with Brian which I also was unaware of.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:08

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I did not know that it was a cover.

I believe (along with 'Don't Lie To Me') it was originally credited to Jagger-Richards on Metamorphosis.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:17

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I did not know that it was a cover.

I believe (along with 'Don't Lie To Me') it was originally credited to Jagger-Richards on Metamorphosis.

Credited to Jagger-Richards-Taylor I believe on the first pressing.

Please note that IDKW is only half a song...After the stop all you hear is a copy of the first part. Slide Solo, vocals, guitar etc -it's is a direct copy from before the splice.

Mathijs

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:26

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phd
I did not know that it was a cover.

I believe (along with 'Don't Lie To Me') it was originally credited to Jagger-Richards on Metamorphosis.

Credited to Jagger-Richards-Taylor I believe on the first pressing.

Please note that IDKW is only half a song...After the stop all you hear is a copy of the first part. Slide Solo, vocals, guitar etc -it's is a direct copy from before the splice.

Mathijs

Interesting. I wonder if originally it was just a jam / studio warm-up? It does seem strange that as late as 1969 they were covering a current or recent UK hit (it first entered the UK charts in March of that year).

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:31

I must confess, when I heard this around age 11 I thought, "you laugh in my face" was "your ass in my face."

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Wry Cooter ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:42

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Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.

Man, some of you are wound tight! Just in theory that's all.....

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:45

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Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.

Man, some of you are wound tight! Just in theory that's all.....

You seem the one wound tight...

Just pointing out facts, though perhaps "in theory" Stevie Wonder could've wrote it two years earlier & it could've been recorded at the Between The Buttons sessions. Would've made a great track for 'Flowers', don't you think? winking smiley

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:55

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Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.
\\According to Nico Zengraf it was recorded June, HTW was released on the 4th of July

- I Don't Know Why I (Stevie Wonder/Paul Riser/Don Hunter/Lula Hardaway) - STU
on piano, unknowns on brass; early mix of version II, recorded around the 30th June
- I Don't Know Why II (Stevie Wonder/Paul Riser/Don Hunter/Lula Hardaway) - STU
on piano, unknowns on brass; Metamorphosis-version, recorded around the 30th June

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Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: June 6, 2011 23:58

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phd
I did not know that it was a cover.

I believe (along with 'Don't Lie To Me') it was originally credited to Jagger-Richards on Metamorphosis.

Credited to Jagger-Richards-Taylor I believe on the first pressing.

Please note that IDKW is only half a song...After the stop all you hear is a copy of the first part. Slide Solo, vocals, guitar etc -it's is a direct copy from before the splice.

Mathijs

Interesting. I wonder if originally it was just a jam / studio warm-up? It does seem strange that as late as 1969 they were covering a current or recent UK hit (it first entered the UK charts in March of that year).

To me it sounds like a warm-up, just a run-through. Keith is messing around with chording in open G, Taylor's lead is standard pentatonic, Jagger is warming up vocal chords.

The magic is simply that in those days the where the best band ever, so a simple run-through still has its magics parks.

Mathijs

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 7, 2011 00:03

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Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.
\\According to Nico Zengraf it was recorded June, HTW was released on the 4th of July

- I Don't Know Why I (Stevie Wonder/Paul Riser/Don Hunter/Lula Hardaway) - STU
on piano, unknowns on brass; early mix of version II, recorded around the 30th June
- I Don't Know Why II (Stevie Wonder/Paul Riser/Don Hunter/Lula Hardaway) - STU
on piano, unknowns on brass; Metamorphosis-version, recorded around the 30th June

Yet weren't they still mixing it the night Brian died? Anyway, even in those fast-moving 60s, a recording made just 4 days before being released seems a bit too fast. So I supposed it was technically possible...just extremely unlikely.



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Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: FreeBird ()
Date: June 7, 2011 00:09

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Sleepy City
B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.
And they had an obligation to make one more.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Wry Cooter ()
Date: June 7, 2011 00:13

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Woulda been good as a B Side and then on Hot Rocks II (Fazed Cookies etc).

B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.

Man, some of you are wound tight! Just in theory that's all.....

You seem the one wound tight...

Just pointing out facts, though perhaps "in theory" Stevie Wonder could've wrote it two years earlier & it could've been recorded at the Between The Buttons sessions. Would've made a great track for 'Flowers', don't you think? winking smiley

I can definitely be tightly wound! What I would have preferred to have said in retrospect is "Some of you are hard core"! I apologize for the choice of words.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 7, 2011 00:18

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B side of what? They'd already released their final Decca single by the time they recorded this.
And they had an obligation to make one more.

True. Did they offer a b-side for '@#$%& Blues'?

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: kish_stoned ()
Date: June 7, 2011 00:20

Hey i think it would gone on exile after tumblig dice followed by plundreed soul and then i don't know the reason why,i have it in that order it sounds good

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: June 7, 2011 09:00

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Yes, a good cover. I dig Stevie's original too.

Drew

It's a brilliant Wonder vocal. He must go through three octaves, and then there's that amazing out-of-breath bit where he's just GASPING with the intensity of it. A fantastic performance.

Amen. Stewie Wonder is genius on this one. And I do believe his version may have insipired Keith to write Gimme Shelter.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: June 7, 2011 09:12

Great odd track. Have never thought of that's it's a Stevie Wonder-song...Heard it first on 'Metamorphosis' 1976 as I remember...could have heard the single earlier though...

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Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: NorthShoreBlues2 ()
Date: June 7, 2011 12:44

Love this song!!!!!!!!!! Always hoped we would have gotten a live version . . . maybe the only shot we had was Hyde Park

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: June 7, 2011 16:45

I think if they tried to do it live now it would be as anemic as Sway....

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: gimmelittledrink ()
Date: June 7, 2011 16:48

The first time I heard it (on a jukebox in a pool hall in the mid-seventies), I thought it was a bit too commercial sounding. I like it more now than then.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: June 7, 2011 18:42

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I think if they tried to do it live now it would be as anemic as Sway....

Probably true....I can even hear in my head how a ABB live version of I Don't Why would sound - it's not good !

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: June 7, 2011 19:04

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I think if they tried to do it live now it would be as anemic as Sway....

Probably true....I can even hear in my head how a ABB live version of I Don't Why would sound - it's not good !

did any ABB version of any song sound really good?

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: June 7, 2011 19:18

This song will fail when doing live, the song fits the Stones real well in '69 but not in '11

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Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 7, 2011 19:22

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NICOS
This song will fail when doing live, the song fits the Stones real well in '69 but not in '11

It would've even sounded bad live in 1975, & certainly 1981.

Re: Track Talk: I Don't Know Why
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: June 7, 2011 19:27

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I think if they tried to do it live now it would be as anemic as Sway....

Probably true....I can even hear in my head how a ABB live version of I Don't Why would sound - it's not good !

did any ABB version of any song sound really good?

Good question - but some worked better than others.
I just imagine that I Don't Know Why would had been incredible bad.....with trumpet/tumbones replacing the slide solo, and Jagger singing in a quite slick way.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-06-07 19:36 by Erik_Snow.

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