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Wonderful news! Pete's Quadrophenia demos are phenomenal.
The demo version of Love Reign O'er Me is almost as good as the final version they released.
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan. I'm sure he/she/them/it was more comfortable listening to GHS/IORR, i.e., the dulcet tones of the Stones slowly starting to p-ss their legacy away! Quadrophenia, while ridiculously overblown in parts, is probably the last great art rock record.
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan. I'm sure he/she/them/it was more comfortable listening to GHS/IORR, i.e., the dulcet tones of the Stones slowly starting to p-ss their legacy away! Quadrophenia, while ridiculously overblown in parts, is probably the last great art rock record.
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There are Who fans who think Sell Out is their best album, and it's all been downhill after that. There's a guy on this forum who tells us time and time again that Aftermath is the best album the Stones ever did. I tease him mercilessly about it because it's an opinion I not only don't share, but can't even fathom anyone else could possibly believe to be true. But he's still a Stones fan. In a sense, the ultimate Stones fan. The true believer.
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan. I'm sure he/she/them/it was more comfortable listening to GHS/IORR, i.e., the dulcet tones of the Stones slowly starting to p-ss their legacy away! Quadrophenia, while ridiculously overblown in parts, is probably the last great art rock record.
In defense of vancouver, it IS possible to be a fan of an artist and not be a fan of all of their work, even what many people consider to be their BEST work. Keith Moon was a Beach Boys fanatic, but he HATED Pet Sounds. He considered it an unfortunate departure from the REAL sound of the Beach Boys. There are Who fans who think Sell Out is their best album, and it's all been downhill after that. There's a guy on this forum who tells us time and time again that Aftermath is the best album the Stones ever did. I tease him mercilessly about it because it's an opinion I not only don't share, but can't even fathom anyone else could possibly believe to be true. But he's still a Stones fan. In a sense, the ultimate Stones fan. The true believer.
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There are Who fans who think Sell Out is their best album, and it's all been downhill after that. There's a guy on this forum who tells us time and time again that Aftermath is the best album the Stones ever did. I tease him mercilessly about it because it's an opinion I not only don't share, but can't even fathom anyone else could possibly believe to be true. But he's still a Stones fan. In a sense, the ultimate Stones fan. The true believer.
The Who Sell Out is my favourite album by The Who too, though I disagree regarding Aftermath...The Stones' finest album was Between The Buttons, & to my ears they went downhill after that!
It would be very boring if we all liked the same things. I love Elvis, but I hate Suspicious Minds with a passion.
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yes THE WHO SELLOUT was their best album but i don't believe everything after that gets worse
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There are Who fans who think Sell Out is their best album, and it's all been downhill after that. There's a guy on this forum who tells us time and time again that Aftermath is the best album the Stones ever did. I tease him mercilessly about it because it's an opinion I not only don't share, but can't even fathom anyone else could possibly believe to be true. But he's still a Stones fan. In a sense, the ultimate Stones fan. The true believer.
The Who Sell Out is my favourite album by The Who too, though I disagree regarding Aftermath...The Stones' finest album was Between The Buttons, & to my ears they went downhill after that!
It would be very boring if we all liked the same things. I love Elvis, but I hate Suspicious Minds with a passion.
Completely agree about The Who Sell Out being their best album. At least creatively.
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan. I'm sure he/she/them/it was more comfortable listening to GHS/IORR, i.e., the dulcet tones of the Stones slowly starting to p-ss their legacy away! Quadrophenia, while ridiculously overblown in parts, is probably the last great art rock record.
In defense of vancouver, it IS possible to be a fan of an artist and not be a fan of all of their work, even what many people consider to be their BEST work. Keith Moon was a Beach Boys fanatic, but he HATED Pet Sounds. He considered it an unfortunate departure from the REAL sound of the Beach Boys. There are Who fans who think Sell Out is their best album, and it's all been downhill after that. There's a guy on this forum who tells us time and time again that Aftermath is the best album the Stones ever did. I tease him mercilessly about it because it's an opinion I not only don't share, but can't even fathom anyone else could possibly believe to be true. But he's still a Stones fan. In a sense, the ultimate Stones fan. The true believer.
The "true believers" on this forum are the ones who argue passionately that Keith Richards forgetting what song he was playing on stage in 2006 is every bit as compelling as Keith Richards playing Sympathy For The Devil on stage in 1969. You have to be a true believer to believe that.
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The "true believers" on this forum are the ones who argue passionately that Keith Richards forgetting what song he was playing on stage in 2006 is every bit as compelling as Keith Richards playing Sympathy For The Devil on stage in 1969. You have to be a true believer to believe that.
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The "true believers" on this forum are the ones who argue passionately that Keith Richards forgetting what song he was playing on stage in 2006 is every bit as compelling as Keith Richards playing Sympathy For The Devil on stage in 1969. You have to be a true believer to believe that.
What about those of us who actually thought that Keith was better in 2006 than he was in 1969?
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Happy Jack
This is going to be an expensive year. I just saw that the Beach Boys Smile Sessions has been given a release date of July 12. Add the Pink Floyd Reissues and now a Quadrophenia box, it looks like I'll have to save my pennies!
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Tommy overblown? Maybe by reputation, but as a recording I'd say it's one of the few under-produced classic rock albums. The band's situation really changed after that record, but it sounds made on a comparative shoestring. The orchestral passages are smallish, and the electric guitar barely appears. I can understand why the Broadway show might have seemed like a fulfillment to Pete.
Sell Out has some wonderful songs but starts to feel like more of a Monty Python than a Who album after a while. This is especially so on the editions with bonus tracks.
speaking of which, I thought the 1996 remasters were now considered suspect, because of the remixing? I personally don't mind having vocals low in the mix (though I don't dislike Roger).
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan. I'm sure he/she/them/it was more comfortable listening to GHS/IORR, i.e., the dulcet tones of the Stones slowly starting to p-ss their legacy away! Quadrophenia, while ridiculously overblown in parts, is probably the last great art rock record.
what makes something an art rock record?
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To me, Tommy always was better live. Their live versions had much more power, less pomp and circumstances. The album Tommy underwhelmed me for what I had been expecting. And this is something The Who often had a hard time with, replicating their on stage power on vinyl. Tommy's production is very tame, and in fact I really don't think it sounds a lot like The Who, more like them trying to replicate Abbey Road's sounds... The record has very little of Townshend's incendiary electric leads, and is more acoustic and orchestral, that just doesn't have the punch that I wished it had. Again, listen to their version of I'm Free live, it is stunning, especially from the Kelburn DVD. AMAZING! And so much better than the studio recording. Quadrophenia has the power and punch that I expect from The Who, with a more developed and emotive story that resonates more with the confusion and angst of youth, and adult (paradise lost). Not only a very interesting and relevant story. But performed and produced with a punch of aggression, even on the gentler acoustic numbers. Brilliant! And their musicianship was arguably at their peek. Keith is tightly locked in with Entwistle, and Entwistle not only did the bass, but all the horns on the disc! INCREDIBLE! For me there is so much to discover on Quadrophenia that it always surprises me to hear some new nuance or allusion that is powerful and emotional. I also love how the themes repeat themselves embedded within various songs, then to glide back to the main riff of the song. Brilliant, and far more operatic than Tommy. And this is a complete statement! Who's Next is brilliant, but seems a bit fragmented, and too short. I am always wanting more and baffled that they didn't put Pure And Easy and The Naked Eye on it.
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To me, Tommy always was better live. Their live versions had much more power, less pomp and circumstances. The album Tommy underwhelmed me for what I had been expecting. And this is something The Who often had a hard time with, replicating their on stage power on vinyl. Tommy's production is very tame, and in fact I really don't think it sounds a lot like The Who, more like them trying to replicate Abbey Road's sounds... The record has very little of Townshend's incendiary electric leads, and is more acoustic and orchestral, that just doesn't have the punch that I wished it had. Again, listen to their version of I'm Free live, it is stunning, especially from the Kelburn DVD. AMAZING! And so much better than the studio recording. Quadrophenia has the power and punch that I expect from The Who, with a more developed and emotive story that resonates more with the confusion and angst of youth, and adult (paradise lost). Not only a very interesting and relevant story. But performed and produced with a punch of aggression, even on the gentler acoustic numbers. Brilliant! And their musicianship was arguably at their peek. Keith is tightly locked in with Entwistle, and Entwistle not only did the bass, but all the horns on the disc! INCREDIBLE! For me there is so much to discover on Quadrophenia that it always surprises me to hear some new nuance or allusion that is powerful and emotional. I also love how the themes repeat themselves embedded within various songs, then to glide back to the main riff of the song. Brilliant, and far more operatic than Tommy. And this is a complete statement! Who's Next is brilliant, but seems a bit fragmented, and too short. I am always wanting more and baffled that they didn't put Pure And Easy and The Naked Eye on it.
I couldn't agree more, Tommy is very tame on record. But didn't it come out before Abbey Road? Another problem with Tommy was that you had all these songs that served the plot, but didn't really stand up on their own, like "Go To The Mirror". Who's Next WAS too short, which is why the expanded version is great to have now. The credits on Quad were a bit pretentious: "Roger Daltrey: Vocals, John Entwistle: Bass and brass, Keith Moon: Percussion, Pete Townshend: Remainder
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan. I'm sure he/she/them/it was more comfortable listening to GHS/IORR, i.e., the dulcet tones of the Stones slowly starting to p-ss their legacy away! Quadrophenia, while ridiculously overblown in parts, is probably the last great art rock record.
what makes something an art rock record?
I'd call an "art rock record" a high concept album that seeks to treat rock music as both a unified thought process and a serious means of expression beyond the ranta-ranta-ranta-ranta of three-chord rock 'n' roll.
And, yes, by referring to Quadrophenia as the last great art rock record, I'm asserting that The Wall is not a great record (e.g., most of the second LP side is pretty tedious).
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To me, Tommy always was better live. Their live versions had much more power, less pomp and circumstances. The album Tommy underwhelmed me for what I had been expecting. And this is something The Who often had a hard time with, replicating their on stage power on vinyl. Tommy's production is very tame, and in fact I really don't think it sounds a lot like The Who, more like them trying to replicate Abbey Road's sounds... The record has very little of Townshend's incendiary electric leads, and is more acoustic and orchestral, that just doesn't have the punch that I wished it had. Again, listen to their version of I'm Free live, it is stunning, especially from the Kelburn DVD. AMAZING! And so much better than the studio recording. Quadrophenia has the power and punch that I expect from The Who, with a more developed and emotive story that resonates more with the confusion and angst of youth, and adult (paradise lost). Not only a very interesting and relevant story. But performed and produced with a punch of aggression, even on the gentler acoustic numbers. Brilliant! And their musicianship was arguably at their peek. Keith is tightly locked in with Entwistle, and Entwistle not only did the bass, but all the horns on the disc! INCREDIBLE! For me there is so much to discover on Quadrophenia that it always surprises me to hear some new nuance or allusion that is powerful and emotional. I also love how the themes repeat themselves embedded within various songs, then to glide back to the main riff of the song. Brilliant, and far more operatic than Tommy. And this is a complete statement! Who's Next is brilliant, but seems a bit fragmented, and too short. I am always wanting more and baffled that they didn't put Pure And Easy and The Naked Eye on it.
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i'm a great who fan (1964-1972), ! but i think this album is not so good..
sorry, but that makes you not a great who fan
Or not a great music fan.
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tatters
I know this has absolutely nothing to do with Quadrophenia, but check THIS one out!