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hbwriter
My recent interview with him - [blog.beliefnet.com]
After I interviewed him, we talked for awhile and I told him how I'd read in Keith's book that he'd listened to Running n Empty during the Some Girls sessions- interested in the live, spontaneous mood of the album.
Jackson, a huge Stones fan, had not heard that, and was totally knocked out
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Bliss
>>Bliss--for what it's worth - that "scandal" was debunked by the cops
Yes I know. But her uncle, cinematographer Haskell Wexler, claims that he took photos of her in hospital all bruised and bashed up following that incident.
Joni Mitchell claims he hit her also, and he inspired her suicide attempt, along with the suicide of his wife. He had met his wife through getting into a fight with her boyfriend at the time.
Might be a good idea for women to steer clear of this homme fatale.
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Bliss
>>Bliss--for what it's worth - that "scandal" was debunked by the cops
Yes I know. But her uncle, cinematographer Haskell Wexler, claims that he took photos of her in hospital all bruised and bashed up following that incident.
Joni Mitchell claims he hit her also, and he inspired her suicide attempt, along with the suicide of his wife. He had met his wife through getting into a fight with her boyfriend at the time.
Might be a good idea for women to steer clear of this homme fatale.
Career killer? All the people you mentioned,have been and continue to be very successful. I think it just shows that in spite of an artist spewing out their political views. It still comes down to music. Play it well and people will listen.Quote
Elmo Lewis
I LOVE tons of his stuff. Really think he's great.
Abuser? Not sure.
However, he got (I named this disease for him) Jackson Browne disease - symptoms are: (1) thinking one is a "artiste" instead of a rocker (2) thinking the world wants to hear one's political opinions (we all got 'em, I won't torture you with mine) and (3) becoming self-righteous.
Other victims of this tragic fate are Bono, Sting, Johnny Cougar (AKA John Mellencamp), Bruce (terminal case), Seger (occasional flare-ups), and Neil Young. It siphons off fun and is a career killer.
Even Mick Jagger has bouts with this dreaded virus. Rockers beware!
Did I mention that love lots of his stuff?
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sweetcharmedlifeCareer killer? All the people you mentioned,have been and continue to be very successful. I think it just shows that in spite of an artist spewing out their political views. It still ocmes down to music. Play it well and people will listen.Quote
Elmo Lewis
I LOVE tons of his stuff. Really think he's great.
Abuser? Not sure.
However, he got (I named this disease for him) Jackson Browne disease - symptoms are: (1) thinking one is a "artiste" instead of a rocker (2) thinking the world wants to hear one's political opinions (we all got 'em, I won't torture you with mine) and (3) becoming self-righteous.
Other victims of this tragic fate are Bono, Sting, Johnny Cougar (AKA John Mellencamp), Bruce (terminal case), Seger (occasional flare-ups), and Neil Young. It siphons off fun and is a career killer.
Even Mick Jagger has bouts with this dreaded virus. Rockers beware!
Did I mention that love lots of his stuff?
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Glam Descendant
> It could equally be that JB has a fatal attraction to very unstable women.
You think that Joni is an unstable woman?
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Bliss
Here is the account of JB hitting JM:
[www.girlslikeusthemusic.com]
>>One night they had a fight at the Sunset Strip club, the Roxy. Her friend recalls: "Joni said Jackson Browne Jackson had dissed her onstage and she was walking upstairs and he was walking down." A verbal argument, she claimed, led to Jackson hitting her, and she ran out into the street without her shoes. "This was the first time a man ever hit Joni." (People who know Jackson Browne say he is not a violent man.)
Nevertheless, Joni remained in love with Jackson. Newly lionized, handsomer now that time had slightly lined his baby face, well placed in the Troubadour-Canyon elite, six years younger than she: the power was shifting, and all her worshipful reviews wouldn't change that. When she first came to the Canyon, she'd been the awe-inspiring queen. Now, the gravity of sexism (or reality) had pulled her down a notch. He had the advantage.
in Joni Mitchell, Chapter 14 | Permalink | Comments (0)
The account goes on to detail how she made a suicide attempt and had a breakdown after they broke up which resulted in residential treatment in a mental facility. This is quite a well-researched book.
[www.girlslikeusthemusic.com]
The suicide of JB's wife is well-documented (or do you want to dispute that?). It could equally be that JB has a fatal attraction to very unstable women.
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hbwriter
Whenever I read - " a friend recalled" - I run the other way - sorry - these are not direct quotes
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hbwriter
Bliss--there is so much heresay, rumor and speculation in all of this stuff you've posted that I think it's utterly irresponsible - very little basis for any of it- he's never once had a charge filed against him - not even close - so rehashing it all is just another mild form of slander
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hbwriter
Bliss--there is so much heresay, rumor and speculation in all of this stuff you've posted that I think it's utterly irresponsible - very little basis for any of it- he's never once had a charge filed against him - not even close - so rehashing it all is just another mild form of slander
Really, hb? I mean no disrespect to you, but do you care to revisit all the "heresay, rumor and speculation" you were willing to repeat as facts in your Scott Cantrell thread?
It's human nature to take one side of something. You believe Jackson's side, possibly because you've spent time with him, and feel you have enough sense of him as a person, to believe the abuse he was accused of isn't in his nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't, or that he did or didn't do it.
For what it's worth, I actually lean towards believing Jackson. But it's all spurious at best, and lack of charges being filed doesn't fully prove or disprove anything. It's as much he said/she said hearsay on Jackson's side, as it is on Joni and Daryl's.
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hbwriter
Bliss--there is so much heresay, rumor and speculation in all of this stuff you've posted that I think it's utterly irresponsible - very little basis for any of it- he's never once had a charge filed against him - not even close - so rehashing it all is just another mild form of slander
Really, hb? I mean no disrespect to you, but do you care to revisit all the "heresay, rumor and speculation" you were willing to repeat as facts in your Scott Cantrell thread?
It's human nature to take one side of something. You believe Jackson's side, possibly because you've spent time with him, and feel you have enough sense of him as a person, to believe the abuse he was accused of isn't in his nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't, or that he did or didn't do it.
For what it's worth, I actually lean towards believing Jackson. But it's all spurious at best, and lack of charges being filed doesn't fully prove or disprove anything. It's as much he said/she said hearsay on Jackson's side, as it is on Joni and Daryl's.
What "heresay, rumor and speculation" did I repeat as facts in that instance? If you're going to suggest that, you should be prepared to back it up - my opinion in that matter was that Keith Richards acted like a total a-hole in recounting what happened - and that the facts as they were related in the book did not exactly hold up against any sort of light - and I stand by all of that - and all of that was based on *their own words* - keith's, anita's and marlon's - this stuff being suggested here is all friend-of-a-friend speculation - it's a little different - if you had daryl hannah and jackson browne on the record talking about this, then your analogy would be right - but we don't.
And me spending time with Jackson Browne, I promise you (x1000) has nothing to do with my point of view. I always thought it was trumped up, and i don't get that impressed meeting people