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Keefan
I don't idolize Sid by any means, but there's a strong argument to be made that Sid wasn't the one who killed Nancy. There's even a movie about this.
[www.whokillednancy.com]
The recent special Rolling Stones edition of UNCUT MAGAZINE had a bunch of old Rolling Stones interviews, and the following is from a 1979 interview with keith. KEITH: "Sid - yeah. He's been a silly boy. Just because he woke up with a knife in his hands, he thinks he done it. I have a feeling he didn't. It was probably some very sharp New York dealer."
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If nothing else, the GOODFELLAS closing credits with Sid Vicious singing My Way over them was contribution enough from him. (Obviously the song was out long before GOODFELLAS, but that song fit that ending so great. Maybe the Beatles' Baby You're a Rich Man playing during the closing credits of THE SOCIAL NETWORK is the only equal regarding a song-at-closing-credits.)
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MKjan
A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
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MKjan
A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
A good definition
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A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
A good definition
Wikipedia says: "By the time of the last Sex Pistols gig at the Winterland in San Francisco Sid was a reasonably competent bass player which is evident in the footage of this gig.". I tend to agree with that, competent enough to play in the Sex Pistols that is. He was a very static player though.
[en.wikipedia.org]
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MKjan
A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
A good definition
Wikipedia says: "By the time of the last Sex Pistols gig at the Winterland in San Francisco Sid was a reasonably competent bass player which is evident in the footage of this gig.". I tend to agree with that, competent enough to play in the Sex Pistols that is. He was a very static player though.
[en.wikipedia.org]
He was barely plugged in for that gig.
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MKjan
A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
A good definition
Wikipedia says: "By the time of the last Sex Pistols gig at the Winterland in San Francisco Sid was a reasonably competent bass player which is evident in the footage of this gig.". I tend to agree with that, competent enough to play in the Sex Pistols that is. He was a very static player though.
[en.wikipedia.org]
He was barely plugged in for that gig.
Someone is playing bass on a recording of No Fun from that concert that I heard on Youtube. It's not loud and it's not always good, but it's there.
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MKjan
A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
A good definition
Wikipedia says: "By the time of the last Sex Pistols gig at the Winterland in San Francisco Sid was a reasonably competent bass player which is evident in the footage of this gig.". I tend to agree with that, competent enough to play in the Sex Pistols that is. He was a very static player though.
[en.wikipedia.org]
He was barely plugged in for that gig.
Someone is playing bass on a recording of No Fun from that concert that I heard on Youtube. It's not loud and it's not always good, but it's there.
Maybe someone behind the scene...
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MKjan
A fantastic natural air guitarist who accidently picked up a real guitar.
A good definition
Wikipedia says: "By the time of the last Sex Pistols gig at the Winterland in San Francisco Sid was a reasonably competent bass player which is evident in the footage of this gig.". I tend to agree with that, competent enough to play in the Sex Pistols that is. He was a very static player though.
[en.wikipedia.org]
He was barely plugged in for that gig.
Someone is playing bass on a recording of No Fun from that concert that I heard on Youtube. It's not loud and it's not always good, but it's there.
Maybe someone behind the scene...
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steffiestones
...Then they probably would have hired someone better...
That was not a big problem i think.
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sizey
The thread's more relevant than you think. Anyone have an idea who helped finance Sid's defence and offered lawyers etc?
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sizey
The thread's more relevant than you think.
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Title5Take1
By "relevance" he obviously meant the Stones connection by way of Mick Jagger lending Sid Vicious legal/financial help.
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sizey
The thread's more relevant than you think. Anyone have an idea who helped finance Sid's defence and offered lawyers etc?
Read the following John Lydon quote from a 2008 Lydon profile in the "London Times" (full article at link below): JOHN LYDON: "Not many days go by when I don't think well of him [Sid]. I was emotionally f***ing wounded. And I've got to say, one of the very few people who came in with any kind of help was, oddly enough, Mick Jagger, who came up with a lawyer and stuff. Nobody else was paying attention." [entertainment.timesonline.co.uk]
I'd read this before, but don't know the details of how Mick went about providing such aid.
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humanriff77
The guy who says the Pistols were of "minor relevance" as a band you have to be kidding, you may not like the music but they are certainly one of the most influential bands in rock...
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stones78
I don't think the Sex Pistols' influence musically speaking is that huge. The social and marketing impact is a completely different thing.
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The guy who says the Pistols were of "minor relevance" as a band you have to be kidding, you may not like the music but they are certainly one of the most influential bands in rock...
The Sex Pistols probably would not be in my personal top 50 of favorite bands, and then they are of minor relevance to me. I think they were a fairly good band though, but there are many good bands that have relatively little relevance. Like the Ramones never got any better than Blitzkrieg Bop, the Pistols never got better than Anarchy In The UK. You heard one track; you basically heard them all. The real good bands are not only agressive.
About influential: they may be seen as that, but I think that's mainly because they seem to be an archetypical punk band. They took advantage of a musical void in the mid seventies that should never have existed in the first place. I think that the music scene went corrupt from thereon and has been ever since.
There certainly were other punk bands as well that I thought were as least as good as the Sex Pistols, like the Damned. They had three good tracks on their first album, and a more human appeal.
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Nikolai
Also there were Morrissey and Mick Hucknall of Simply Red. And Duran Duran too - yup, they started out as a punk band. Simon LeBon cited Pretty Vacant as one of his favourite records.
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lsbz
I'd say that generally any good Hollies track is more influential on good bands than everything the Sex Pistols did combined.
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Nikolai
The Ramones 'never got any better than Blitzkrieg Bop' - Puh-Lease. They got far more melodic after their debut. Rocket To Russia, their third album, is a masterpiece. And they wrote way better songs than Blitzkrieg Bop too.
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Nikolai
The Damned had a more 'human appeal', you say?
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I'd say that generally any good Hollies track is more influential on good bands than everything the Sex Pistols did combined.
Well, if that sentence has any truthfulness or even sense in it, I think you need to have very idiosyncratic, subjective - and very thin - account what makes a band "good".
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Doxa
For example, I can't make The Stones to fit in it.
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I'd say that generally any good Hollies track is more influential on good bands than everything the Sex Pistols did combined.
Well, if that sentence has any truthfulness or even sense in it, I think you need to have very idiosyncratic, subjective - and very thin - account what makes a band "good".
You probably mean "agressive" instead of good. The Hollies were a very good band.Quote
Doxa
For example, I can't make The Stones to fit in it.
Where should they fit in?! Maybe you like them for agression too?! But that's only part of what rock's about. The Sex Pistols were a very shallow, immature band.