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proudmary
Mick said "Anarchy is the only slight glimmer of hope."
Where and under which circumstances did he say that? I guess 60-s.
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Stoneage
"There should be no such thing as private property" - says the man who owns almost half the world!
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TippyToe
Mick got a close up look at anarchy at Altamont, and it was probably there that he decided he didn't like it so much after all.
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proudmary
Mick said "Anarchy is the only slight glimmer of hope."
Where and under which circumstances did he say that? I guess 60-s.
Apparently in a 1967 interview:
"The Commandments say 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' and half the world is in training to annihilate the other half. Nobody would get me in uniform and off to Aden to kill a lot of people I've never met and have nothing against anyway. I know people say they are against wars and yet they go on fighting them. Millions of marvellous young men are killed and in five minutes everybody seems to have forgotten all about it. War stems from power-mad politicians and patriots."
"Anarchy is the only slight glimmer of hope. Not the popular conception of it - men in black cloaks lurching around with hidden bombs - but a freedom of every man personally for himself. There should be no such thing as private property. Anybody should be able to go where he likes and do what he likes. Politics, like the legal system, is dominated by old men. Old men who are also bugged by religion. And the law - the law's outdated and doesn't cater enough for individual cases."
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shadooby
May have sounded good at the time but if you really want to know what it'd be like watch "Escape From New York".
...Quote...Mick Jagger......Out of Control 1997................."I was young...I was foolish....I was vain..."Quote
NICOS
I'm glad they didn't taped all the things I said when I was my 20's.............
I don't see why he should be ashamed for what he said back then.I prefer that attitude from what they are today.Quote
EddieByword...Quote...Mick Jagger......Out of Control 1997................."I was young...I was foolish....I was vain..."Quote
NICOS
I'm glad they didn't taped all the things I said when I was my 20's.............
Not suggesting to ashamed of everything, but I agree with Shadooby earlier in the thread (RE. Escape from NYC)....to cope with real anarchy you'd need to be young,fit, and armed.(and extremely lucky) Basically you'd have to live your daily life like a marine in Iraq or Afghanistan just 'to get the shopping in'.....no thanksQuote
StratoGRI don't see why he should be ashamed for what he said back then.I prefer that attitude from what they are today.Quote
EddieByword...Quote...Mick Jagger......Out of Control 1997................."I was young...I was foolish....I was vain..."Quote
NICOS
I'm glad they didn't taped all the things I said when I was my 20's.............
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shadooby
May have sounded good at the time but if you really want to know what it'd be like watch "Escape From New York".
I understand your point about the bastardisation of the word anarchy, personally because it's such a common misuse I don't bother trying to contest it anymore and now think in terms of Autarchy for --- somebody who advocates the abolition of government and wants a social system based on voluntary co-operation----- the only problem with that as an ideal is that to succeed it requires everyone to be fair, rational and basically have a good heart.....well, to borrow and adapt an Ian Dury line.....there ain't half been some greedy bastards....(Granted, there are plenty of them infesting and in a lot of cases worldwide running the goverments too) so.................???Quote
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shadooby
May have sounded good at the time but if you really want to know what it'd be like watch "Escape From New York".
The word anarchist has become lazy shorthand for anyone who wants to bring about disorder and upheaval. But an anarchist is really somebody who advocates the abolition of government and wants a social system based on voluntary co-operation
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Stoneage
You're right, anarchism (and syndikalism/Trotskism/Marxism) is a pure middle class-thing, at least in these days.
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JJHMick
Sorry to interrupt with a John Lennon quote from Imagine:
Imagine there's no heaven - it's EASY if you try (= religion)
Imagine there's no countries - it isN'T HARD to do (= politics)
Imagine no possessions - I WONDER if you can (= property)
Very interesting!
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nankerphlege
Voluntary contribution to the government? The real question is what happens when you don't want to contribute?
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Kleermaker
I always thought anarchism is a Russian thing these days. Or a Italian thing, which is about the same
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Kleermaker
I always thought anarchism is a Russian thing these days. Or a Italian thing, which is about the same
Anarchism is a random phenomena in Europe. They do tend to turn-up around big EU-meetings, often dressed in black and, sometimes, with balaclavas. They carry black and red standards with images of Bakunin, Kropotkin and even Marx. They almost destroyed Gothenburg when we had a EU-meeting here in Sweden in 2001. One of the anarchists were shot by the police and he was, as always,a university-student, son of a professor, living in his parents villa in Bellevue (an upper-class area) in Gothenburg.
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Title5Take1
Mick once marched in support of Angela Davis, but when he saw other protesters carrying hammer-and-sickle flags, he went up to them and said, "Don't you idiots know that Angela Davis would be treated a lot worse in the Soviet Union than she is here?"