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jamesfdouglas
Love it! Vocals are obviously either from another show or overdubbs, but still. LOVE it!
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jamesfdougla
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based on what?
okay mr.smartypants, explain what happens at the 45 second mark when mick sings "yeah" while not at the mic. what is that all about?Quote
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jamesfdouglas
Love it! Vocals are obviously either from another show or overdubbs, but still. LOVE it!
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ShootsWaterRats
Unfortunately, the teaser clip at the beginning of this thread has the same problems as in the original film release:
- First of all, the film has been sped up. The song was played in key of B, however the accelerated speed of the film boosts it up a half-step to key of C. This may have been done in the original film in a misguided attempt to give the song more energy (a common trick on old records), but unfortunately the result is that it sounds too rushed. It’s a shame that no one involved in the DVD release corrected this.
- Second, despite Eagle Vision’s claim that the audio for the film is restored from the “original multi-track audio masters,” this clip features the exact same, overly-compressed mix as the original film. Perhaps the actual DVD will reveal otherwise, but the audio for this teaser clip was clearly just dubbed from the film soundtrack, and not remixed from the original multi-track.
- Finally, as in the original film, there are the obvious vocal overdubs already commented on above, most of which sound rather forced and don’t enhance the song.
A more accurate document of the tune (at the correct speed, without overdubs) from the ‘72 tour can be found below. For my money, it’s a more satisfying listen, despite the low fidelity.
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bernardandersonokay mr.smartypants, explain what happens at the 45 second mark when mick sings "yeah" while not at the mic. what is that all about?Quote
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jamesfdouglas
Love it! Vocals are obviously either from another show or overdubbs, but still. LOVE it!
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ShootsWaterRats
Unfortunately, the teaser clip at the beginning of this thread has the same problems as in the original film release:
- First of all, the film has been sped up. The song was played in key of B, however the accelerated speed of the film boosts it up a half-step to key of C. This may have been done in the original film in a misguided attempt to give the song more energy (a common trick on old records), but unfortunately the result is that it sounds too rushed. It’s a shame that no one involved in the DVD release corrected this.
- Second, despite Eagle Vision’s claim that the audio for the film is restored from the “original multi-track audio masters,” this clip features the exact same, overly-compressed mix as the original film. Perhaps the actual DVD will reveal otherwise, but the audio for this teaser clip was clearly just dubbed from the film soundtrack, and not remixed from the original multi-track.
- Finally, as in the original film, there are the obvious vocal overdubs already commented on above, most of which sound rather forced and don’t enhance the song.
A more accurate document of the tune (at the correct speed, without overdubs) from the ‘72 tour can be found below. For my money, it’s a more satisfying listen, despite the low fidelity.
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ShootsWaterRats
"What technique is used to speed up the vocals without making them sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks?"
Well, basically you just speed it up a bit, but not too much...
These days you can also digitally time-compress things without altering the pitch at all, but that's not what was done here. Instead, the original film was simply sped up, and apparently no one involved with the DVD noticed or cared.