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OzHeavyThrobber
No Californian stadium could stand to fit the collective egos of Prince and Richards in the same day. Something was bound to give I guess...
"I asked for an autograph for my GF and he said: No, I cant. Everyone would want one" - what a tosser...
as for Keith's description of Prince being a "talentless midget" - Keith has never had a normal filter working properly between his brain and mouth. Odd comment given Prince's talent(s) are parallel compared to Keith's that is singular.
I love Keith but he had one talent and thrashed it to hell - his rhythm playing (that's long dead) that allowed him to bang out catchy riffs and chord sequences.
Don't dig Prince's music at all but the guy is more musically talented - and anybody with talent should spot that effortlessly - than most music stars of the last century.
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Brstonesfan
Keith was also the co- author of the best songs in rock history. He has more talent in his crippled fingers than that freak Prince ever could hope for.
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yes, 1981 was the last tour were the fans could be pretty rough. We had bikers circling the stadium in Orlando and many overdoses all day. Throughout the day before the Stones went on, many times the crow just threw stuff and not necessarily at the opening acts which included Van Halen, The Henry Paul Band, and another group I do not recall. It was still very rowdy in 81. Prince should not have been asked to open .
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stupidguy2
...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
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Brstonesfan
Well Mick went solo and tried to be a "Prince" and we all saw how humiliating that was for him and us as fans. We cannot support these type of acts and remain stones purists.
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OzHeavyThrobber
"Riffs and rhythm guitar is not the same thing. Keith was never really a typical rhythm guitar player. That's why we love him!"
I'm aware of that DP. My point is that thru his rhythm playing and messing around with chords and his fascination with the sound of them in some instances that songs (so many songs) like CYHMK were jammed into existence. I've played guit for 25 years and nutted out almost all Stones gear he's been a part of creating. It's pretty easy to determine which were 'written/composed' as to those that were jammed into existence and then formed/shaped etc by somebody else - obviously Jagger for the most part. If he were not the rhythm guitarist he is (was) he would never have been a part of these great songs coming to be.
That is Richards' talent. And for mine the last great riff he jammed was YGMR and the last great song he solely wrote was TITN. His hit/miss ratio since Exile has been woeful in my opinion.
Jagger is terribly sold short as a songwriter and it is assumed for the most part that all he did was "write the words" which anybody here would know is far from accurate.
Keith's unusual style/talent for rhythm playing is unique and to mine his only real gift - listen to the intro of "Sweet Virginia" for example. It shouldn't work at all. Yet it works so beautifully.
He can hum a melody and on occasion write some ok lyrics. he is and never has been a lead guitarist of any note and has delivered some of the worst soloing I have ever heard. The point is is that (imo) rhythm is the only talent he has that sets him apart from most other musicians. His ability of delivery left him decades ago too. Listen to him hammering the 12 string on ATGB or his rhythm playing on RT or "Angie" over the years. It's awful.
Prince: (again I don't like more than two songs of the hundreds I was once subjected to by a friend that loves him) can: sing a wide variety of styles and do them very well; regularly wrote songs and albums of note that required nobody else for assistance; plays over a dozen instruments for real (not a dabbler like Brian apparently was); has a God given ability to perform and captivate an audience (well except in California in 1978 it would seem...); in short (if you'd pardon my phrasing, his abundance of talent compared to almost anyone is light years more advanced. That includes Keith. It strikes me as odd that he would make yet another tasteless comment in a career littered with them about someone like Prince. It only shines a light on how short of talent he is when remarking such a throwaway and childish line.
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as for Keith's description of Prince being a "talentless midget"
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...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
Absolutely false, I was there.
Prince didn't go over well...period.
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...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
Absolutely false, I was there.
Prince didn't go over well...period.
Hairball coughs up the truth!
I was there as well, right up front, and agree completely. IMO, his poor reception was his own fault. Will post more about "The Prince Incident" from my perspective soon.
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...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
Absolutely false, I was there.
Prince didn't go over well...period.
Hairball coughs up the truth!
I was there as well, right up front, and agree completely. IMO, his poor reception was his own fault. Will post more about "The Prince Incident" from my perspective soon.
All this proves that there were more meatheads present than I thought.
Prince was the one of the greatest, most innovative artists of the 80s...period.
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...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
Absolutely false, I was there.
Prince didn't go over well...period.
Hairball coughs up the truth!
I was there as well, right up front, and agree completely. IMO, his poor reception was his own fault. Will post more about "The Prince Incident" from my perspective soon.
All this proves that there were more meatheads present than I thought.
Prince was the one of the greatest, most innovative artists of the 80s...period.
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...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
Absolutely false, I was there.
Prince didn't go over well...period.
Hairball coughs up the truth!
I was there as well, right up front, and agree completely. IMO, his poor reception was his own fault. Will post more about "The Prince Incident" from my perspective soon.
All this proves that there were more meatheads present than I thought.
Prince was the one of the greatest, most innovative artists of the 80s...period.
Am I correct in assuming that you are referring to me as a "meathead"?
If so, thank you so very much for the flattering label. BTW, I made no comment regarding Prince as an artist, however, it seems as though you are under the erroneous impression that I was dismissive of his talents. I stand by my statement that Prince is responsible for his reception that afternoon, and his musical prowess had nothing to do with it. His disdainful attitude towards the audience from the very get-go (well before the boooing and hurling of objects) most definitely did, IMO. As mentioned previously, I will elaborate further soon, when I have the time.
Question: Were you present at that particular performance? If so, I'd love to read about your experience.
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Brstonesfan
Well Mick went solo and tried to be a "Prince" and we all saw how humiliating that was for him and us as fans. We cannot support these type of acts and remain stones purists.
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...and most fans probably respectfully applauded. But the meatheads...they have to ruin everything.
Absolutely false, I was there.
Prince didn't go over well...period.
Hairball coughs up the truth!
I was there as well, right up front, and agree completely. IMO, his poor reception was his own fault. Will post more about "The Prince Incident" from my perspective soon.
All this proves that there were more meatheads present than I thought.
Prince was the one of the greatest, most innovative artists of the 80s...period.
Doesn't matter what he later became. Like others here, I was there. For that time (1981), for that place (L.A. in the heat), it was an incredibly stupid move booking him to open. If he doesn't come out wearing women's underwear, practically begging them to not like him, then different story. But when the other three acts are guitar driven macho bands, Thorogood, Geils and the Stones, Prince was woefully out of place.
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Hairball, aptly named btw, you're entire post just proves my point.