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Loudei
I would say 1973 to be the almost death year.... any thoughts onkids darkest moments?
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bolexman
Agreed. 1975-77 not only saw Keith "not looking real well" so to speak, but also hitting a wall with his playing ability. It started to slowly affect his guitar work, IMO. It showed... And I think he started to look healthier afterwards, such as on the 1981 tour. Granted, maybe it was the pastel stage reflecting a 'rosy glow' on his complexion but he look waaay better than the mid-1970s.
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bolexman
Agreed. 1975-77 not only saw Keith "not looking real well" so to speak, but also hitting a wall with his playing ability. It started to slowly affect his guitar work, IMO. It showed... And I think he started to look healthier afterwards, such as on the 1981 tour. Granted, maybe it was the pastel stage reflecting a 'rosy glow' on his complexion but he look waaay better than the mid-1970s.
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Loudei
I would say 1973 to be the almost death year.... any thoughts onkids darkest moments?
Given his playing ability onstage and his appearance, I would say 1975-77 were WAY worse than 1973.
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crumbling_mice
Hard to judge this one as Heroin, whilst being an evil drug, actually isn't that bad for your body if it's taken in a fairly pure state - which I imagine Keith did. It's simply a very strong pain killer and won't shorten your life. It's the shit that gets cut with it and the inability of users to get the correct dosage as they don't always know the strength of what they are injecting, hence overdoses, septacemia, collapsed veins etc etc....So he kicks this and moves to booze - this is what will kill him, bourbon drunk in the quantities Keith consumed from that period to present will have caused far more damage than the heroin, so for me I'd say any time around the last 10 years is where he has been the most decadent. If by decadent you are referring to drug usage rather than risk then I'd go for 75-77 as the point where he probably risked his life more. We shouldn't overlook the cigarettes either, Keith chain smokes and always has - so i guess add that to the damage the booze has done and, well, much as I love the guy, he aint gonna make his 70's.
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skipstone
Fool To Cry live is when he said he'd nod off.
DOn't get me wrong, I hope to god Keith makes it to his 90's, but you have to be realistic and even Keith Richards can't get away with the level of abuse he has inflicted on his body and as we agree, the fags if not the booze will take it's toll. I am already convinced he had a stroke in the 90's - maybe the book will reveal all on this one. For the record, I'm sure I won't make it to Keith's age and I've only done a quarter of the abuse he has, he is built of tough stuff.Quote
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crumbling_mice
Hard to judge this one as Heroin, whilst being an evil drug, actually isn't that bad for your body if it's taken in a fairly pure state - which I imagine Keith did. It's simply a very strong pain killer and won't shorten your life. It's the shit that gets cut with it and the inability of users to get the correct dosage as they don't always know the strength of what they are injecting, hence overdoses, septacemia, collapsed veins etc etc....So he kicks this and moves to booze - this is what will kill him, bourbon drunk in the quantities Keith consumed from that period to present will have caused far more damage than the heroin, so for me I'd say any time around the last 10 years is where he has been the most decadent. If by decadent you are referring to drug usage rather than risk then I'd go for 75-77 as the point where he probably risked his life more. We shouldn't overlook the cigarettes either, Keith chain smokes and always has - so i guess add that to the damage the booze has done and, well, much as I love the guy, he aint gonna make his 70's.
You probably didn't think he would make his 60's or his 50's or his 40's. I've got news for you - one day you will die. I hope you have a long and healthy life before the reaper comes knocking. As for Keith - he is an old man, and he will die at some point. It seems to me that he is doing well. He is almost 70. I agree that the fags probably will finish him off. But he has had a decent innings and probably has a few more years left.
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crumbling_mice
I am already convinced he had a stroke in the 90's - maybe the book will reveal all on this one.
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crumbling_miceDOn't get me wrong, I hope to god Keith makes it to his 90's, but you have to be realistic and even Keith Richards can't get away with the level of abuse he has inflicted on his body and as we agree, the fags if not the booze will take it's toll. I am already convinced he had a stroke in the 90's - maybe the book will reveal all on this one. For the record, I'm sure I won't make it to Keith's age and I've only done a quarter of the abuse he has, he is built of tough stuff.Quote
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crumbling_mice
Hard to judge this one as Heroin, whilst being an evil drug, actually isn't that bad for your body if it's taken in a fairly pure state - which I imagine Keith did. It's simply a very strong pain killer and won't shorten your life. It's the shit that gets cut with it and the inability of users to get the correct dosage as they don't always know the strength of what they are injecting, hence overdoses, septacemia, collapsed veins etc etc....So he kicks this and moves to booze - this is what will kill him, bourbon drunk in the quantities Keith consumed from that period to present will have caused far more damage than the heroin, so for me I'd say any time around the last 10 years is where he has been the most decadent. If by decadent you are referring to drug usage rather than risk then I'd go for 75-77 as the point where he probably risked his life more. We shouldn't overlook the cigarettes either, Keith chain smokes and always has - so i guess add that to the damage the booze has done and, well, much as I love the guy, he aint gonna make his 70's.
You probably didn't think he would make his 60's or his 50's or his 40's. I've got news for you - one day you will die. I hope you have a long and healthy life before the reaper comes knocking. As for Keith - he is an old man, and he will die at some point. It seems to me that he is doing well. He is almost 70. I agree that the fags probably will finish him off. But he has had a decent innings and probably has a few more years left.
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AddictedFor the 81-82 tour, he was SO in love, his complexion was litterally pink. It was all about Patricia, and it still is.Quote
bolexman
Agreed. 1975-77 not only saw Keith "not looking real well" so to speak, but also hitting a wall with his playing ability. It started to slowly affect his guitar work, IMO. It showed... And I think he started to look healthier afterwards, such as on the 1981 tour. Granted, maybe it was the pastel stage reflecting a 'rosy glow' on his complexion but he look waaay better than the mid-1970s.
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Edith Grove
Thanks, CM.
Assuming Keith did have a stroke, I have to wonder if he recognized it and got treatment right away.
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Edith Grove
Thanks, CM.
Assuming Keith did have a stroke, I have to wonder if he recognized it and got treatment right away.
THis is what I thought, depending on when and if, of course, he suffered a mild stroke, how likely is it that he noticed it...many people don't realise they've had one and if you are a raging alcoholic etc it could be that no one else noticed it for a long period...immediate treatment is essentail to prevent further strokes or long term damage. I truly hope I'm wrong on this but I also did think the whole falling out of a tree was bollocks of the highest order...we'll probably never know...but the whole tree thing was very dubious and at the time several different stories circulated as to what happened...I love a good conspiracy - especially whe it has it's roots (forgive the pun) in fact.
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skipstone
He hit his head on a rock fumbling through a shrub, not from falling from a coconut tree.
Just another mythical 'I defied death again while painting the ceiling with Muddy Waters while BB King changed the container of the water cooler between eighth notes and Marshall Chess ordered 15 pizzas while editing 'Mannish Boy'' quip by the Rolling Stones, er, Keith and Ronnie.