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if it really is brian on main guitar on "MAJ," that really adds a wrinkle to the usual interpretation that the song is about him!
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if it really is brian on main guitar on "MAJ," that really adds a wrinkle to the usual interpretation that the song is about him!
Other than the last name, what is there out there that really backs up that claim!?
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It's yet another mirror in the mythology around brian--people looking into it generally see (or hear) what they already want to believe. And there's just enough evidence to make several interpretations plausible.
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Interestingly Keith claims to have written the song on piano and also played piano(as well as bass and guitar) on the record, which brings me to something regarding the OOPS separates and the apparently audible live piano on the sullivan rehearsal. On the record at certain points it sounds like someone else is playing higher up the keyboard, kind of doubling some of the lower parts. Could it be that the main pianist was infact Brian with Keith layering at the same time the higher octave parts!?
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Well, I do hear two pianos on Let's Spend The Night Together and several sources mention Jack Nitzsche and Keith on piano. So maybe it's Brian and Keith on piano?
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Well, I do hear two pianos on Let's Spend The Night Together and several sources mention Jack Nitzsche and Keith on piano. So maybe it's Brian and Keith on piano?
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can you explain this bit again, HM? there's Sullivan rehearsal footage where Brian is playing piano on Ruby Tuesday??
what i have has Keith at the piano with Brian on recorder, and it's a vocals+playback scenario
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... i'm still confused, HM - i thought you were talking about Brian being on piano on Ruby Tuesday,
but now it sounds like you mean LStNT. pass the caffeine while i dust off my DVD :E
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ohhhh all right then - so i've edited mine as well to make it clearer what i thought you meant.
so you're saying that the january 67 footage from Courtfield Road leads you to think Brian played piano on Ruby Tuesday,
and - in a separate speculative venture - the Sullivan rehearsal leads you to think he played it on LStNT as well.
am i following you properly now?
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>> the usual interpretation that the song is about him! <<
never heard that one! in what circles is it the "usual" interpretation?
(i'm not sure i want to know, so please be judicious!)
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Concerning the piano of RT -I am not a piano player and I can not judge how difficult the part is. Is it something that should have been played by a skilled player like Nitzsche, or is it indeed something Brian could have done? Brian sounds a bit shaky at the start of the piano bit in the movie, or not? Is it his part, or did he learn it to play live on stage for the upcoming promo's or even upcoming tour? Why didn't he play piano on it live in '67? And last, isn't Nitzsche credited on piano on the Singles Collection or 40 Licks CD?
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Concerning the piano of RT -I am not a piano player and I can not judge how difficult the part is. Is it something that should have been played by a skilled player like Nitzsche, or is it indeed something Brian could have done? Brian sounds a bit shaky at the start of the piano bit in the movie, or not? Is it his part, or did he learn it to play live on stage for the upcoming promo's or even upcoming tour? Why didn't he play piano on it live in '67? And last, isn't Nitzsche credited on piano on the Singles Collection or 40 Licks CD?
Mathijs
Ruby Tuesday is fairly straight forward, I think the footage in tandem with Bill's books credit and also the credit on 40 licks is more than proof enough that he did indeed play the piano on the track.
Song/part credits with far less proof have been accepted by the majority without much fuss, given what we know and what we've seen and heard, there's no reason to really question the claim/credit Brian played the piano on Ruby Tuesday. It's most likely that he did!
As for Brian being supposedly shaky in the film, he's messing about at home watcha expect!? Anyway, the stones are mostly shaky in the studio till they hit upon the magic take. Why he would not play piano live in 67!? Pain in the ass to have a piano for one song, he was also obviously proud of his recorder part as he should be as well.
Imo, Brian was a better keyboard player than we(Mathijs and I) previously have given him credit for!
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I need to listen again to MAJ and compare it to A&A from NME. I find A&A to be much more crude and static compared to how I remember the riff to MAJ -smooth, playing around with the timing.
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You mention a credit on 40 Licks -is Brian credited for piano on the 40 Licks CD?
And I agree, he seemed to have been a better keyboard player than we thought. in fact, I have always maintained that there simply was no recording of Brian on piano, whereas there no seem to be 1 or 2 if we include LSTNT.
Mathijs