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The Greeki also would snatch anita away from brian .what a smoking hot lady back then .Quote
Mathijs
I continue to read all these phrases with "how bad Jagger/Richards treated Jones", in some form or another.
Let's be the devil's advocate here: what a burden was Brian to the second-most creative duo in the world? Here you are, 26 years old and on top of the world musically, ready to start a four year streak of best-ever Rock albums with a band that is going to be called "the Greatest band in the World" in one year time -and there's this washed up alcoholic slumped in the corned on a one-too-many acid trip, weeping over the loss of his girl to that ever so succesful guitarist and writer of the band you started...
I wouldn't hasitate a bit to throw him out.
Mathijs
Keith did it.
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marvpeck
"Let's be the devil's advocate here: what a burden was Brian to the second-most creative duo in the world? Here you are, 26 years old and on top of the world musically, ready to start a four year streak of best-ever Rock albums with a band that is going to be called "the Greatest band in the World" in one year time -and there's this washed up alcoholic slumped in the corned on a one-too-many acid trip, weeping over the loss of his girl to that ever so succesful guitarist and writer of the band you started...
I wouldn't hasitate a bit to throw him out."
Mathijs
So, would you have tossed Keith out a few years later?
She was just as dangerous as she was beautiful. Both Keith and Brian learned that the hard way...Quote
The Greek
i also would snatch anita away from brian .what a smoking hot lady back then .
The big thing that they had in common was that they both were held back by the leaders of their bands. But then the diffrences take over. The main difference is that George had balls to stand up against the bands natural leaders. Brian didn't have the strength to do that and decided to flee the reality with drugs instead. If George had been like Brian we most likely wouldn't have heard any Harrison songs at all.Quote
jamesfdouglas
Has it been widely discussed how Jones functioned like George Harrison (the one who truly brought the sitar into British pop)?
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Doxa
The Stones couldn't survive the 60's without Brian, but they couln't have survived the 70's with him...
I think the Stones have been very lucky - if that is anything to do with luck - for having their "third man" behind Mick and Keith, and front of Charlie and Bill. Brian was probably one of the most talented musical visionalists - a walking musical adventury - back in the 60's when that kind of quality was most needed (and we should not forget Brian's looks and sense of fashion, etc.). Taylor was the guitar ace when having one was the mark of credible rock band. And they got 'back-to-basics' Wood to the band just before the guitar gods and other 'dinosaur' self-important musicians turned out to be unfashinable by the punk challenge (and Ronnie also didn't look like some goddamn old hippie).
Of course, Brian's role was more like a second frontman, and Keith was the 'third man' in the early days, and Brian's role transformed very much, as did Taylor's and Wood's in the band (for example, since 1989 Ronnie's contribution has not been much more what Brian had 1968-69), but in a long run, it is fun to make generalations like this!
- Doxa
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Mick Jagger
Brian wasn't really involved on Beggars Banquet, apart from some slide on No Expectations; that was the only thing he played on the whole record.
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Mick Jagger
Brian wasn't really involved on Beggars Banquet, apart from some slide on No Expectations; that was the only thing he played on the whole record.
Dear Mick, you don't half talk a load of doo-doo at times.
Brian was very involved in the studio during the Satanic sessions and appears, AFAIK, on almost every track in one way or another. He did that without even liking the album very much. It's even said that he told that to both M and K and adviced them to stay true to the blues. So when they changed direction with JJF Brian is said to have been happy and involved in the work that was going to be BB. Then the second drug bust happend and Brian fell hard.Quote
mitchflorida
Even though he wasn't really contributing anymore, there was no immediate necessity to go through the drama of replacing Brian because no gigs were lined up. We first had to recognize the fact that we needed to make a really good album. After Satanic Majesties we wanted to make a STONES album.
1968 Beggars Banquet Brian Jones Keith Richards
Date: 1968
I also want to know what the title is all about. I've read somewhere that it had to do with the Gompa's that can be found in Tibet or Nepal. But it doesn't make that much sense...Quote
DiamondDog7
I still don't know what it stands for. What does it mean? I'm talking about the title.
Anyway...
He plays most of the instruments on this song. Especially through the end. This is his version of 'Without You, Without Me'. Quite good psychedelica.
It's ironic to read about Brian's feelings towards Their Satanic Majesties Request. He got the oppertunity to play and enjoy on most exotic intruments, but he still didn't like the album. LOL
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marvpeck
"Let's be the devil's advocate here: what a burden was Brian to the second-most creative duo in the world? Here you are, 26 years old and on top of the world musically, ready to start a four year streak of best-ever Rock albums with a band that is going to be called "the Greatest band in the World" in one year time -and there's this washed up alcoholic slumped in the corned on a one-too-many acid trip, weeping over the loss of his girl to that ever so succesful guitarist and writer of the band you started...
I wouldn't hasitate a bit to throw him out."
Mathijs
So, would you have tossed Keith out a few years later?
What about Ron ?
I'd say he did that most of the time. He was the first/second guitar man until 1966 and then made many songs memorable with his addings of various instruments. He wasn't high "all the time " in the studio either - that has been pretty exaggerated judging by pictures taken between 66 and 68. Before 66 Brian did play a lot of harmonica as well with Keith alone on the guitar but nobody complained about that.Quote
slew
If he could have bottled his own ego and been the second guitar player and the guy who picked up all of the other instruments and not got stoned out of his mind all the time then he would have been an asset. If you know the history of the band Brian became a liability as did Keith in the 70's with his drug/legal problems but he always took care of his musical part of the equation. Brian did not he lost interest in the guitar. It may have been best for Brian to have left after 1966-1967 as he did not care for the direction the group was going in.
Brian wasn't a spent force in those ways. He had some health problems but his creativity and good spirit was there according to those who met him the last month of his life. Brian himself said that felt better than he done in a long long time and was full of energy to put together a new band. Leaving the Stones was the best thing that could happen to Brian. It'sad to he didn't get to live longer when he worked so hard to be clean from drugs, get his life together and get a new career going.Quote
alimente
Brian, like Jimi, Jim and Janis, died after an extremely creative period in his life, and just like them,at a point in time when he was creatively, mentally and physically a spent force.
It is sad, but if there is someone to blame, it must be Brian himself - again, just like Jimi, Jim and Janis.
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Squiggle
Censored from Our Mind's new header is an excellent, five minute compilation of harmonica playing from the man:
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Squiggle
Censored from Our Mind's new header is an excellent, five minute compilation of harmonica playing from the man:
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Rockman
.............Wolf whistles on Walkin' The Dog ....