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Hairball
It didn't pass muster way back then in '74, it wasn't resurrected and reworked to become part of Tattoo You in '81, and finally in 2020 they scrape the bottom and add it to a Deluxe set.
Not saying it's bottom of the barrel quality, but there's reasons they neglected it all these years - it just doesn't pass muster. And now, it's simply a glorified leftover.
Insulting though that in order to purchase the 7" vinyl single, you have to splurge on a double vinyl bundle.
Many of us have already ordered the double vinyl, and some the 4 LP set, so why force the unwanted and unnecessary?
Still a chance there will be a single on it's own, but they should have made it available immediately - talk about milking this for all it's worth....lame...
Single vinyl purchase (unless you're counting the 7") for $29 pre any discounts.
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Gotta say.. "bottom of the barrel quality" and at the same time being mad about not being able to buy it by itself is one I didn't see coming.
(I kid, I kid.. I'm sure it's for "collecting" or something )
I also started at about a 7/10 ranking after a few listens today. Unlike yours my rating went up a notch as I listened to it more today.
On Spotify with headphones it sounded much cleaner and better with each listen. I think the weak link if anything in this is lyrics.
Similar to Criss Cross, just not much there in terms of substance or story.. That said, I love it and look forward to getting the single.
To me this sounded much more like the early seventies, specifically the GHS era (I know it was recorded in '74) than Criss Cross and it would have fit in very nicely on the GHS original. Just a great groove/vibe/sound.
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bitusa2012
It’s odd. Take out Jagger’s vocal and I am not sure it even sounds like The Stones. Not fussed with it one way or the other. Ambivalent towards it.
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powerage78
However, amazing bass lines !
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slewan
To me Criss Cross and Scarlet are quite similar in a way: both songs have interesting elements but neither of them leads anywhere. In both cases it seems that the band don't know what to do with them. Scarlet for example has the potential for a powerful ballad or a stuff rocker – but the band doesn't seem to be able to decide…
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exil
The More I Hear It The More I Like It
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Hairball
After about six or seven listens now, my ranking of this tune has quickly dropped from an initial positive impression of 7 out of 10 down to a mediocre/average 5 at best.
Not even sure if I'd spend money on a standalone single at this point considering it's on the 2 cd and 2 lp set, but might just for collection purposes. Sounds too cobbled together imo, and it's easy to understand why it was left unfinished, unreleased, and ultimately practically forgotten altogether. Criss Cross on the other hand is way better and has more of a vintage feel (and it ROCKS), and even the new Ghost Town is more enjoyable whereas this one sounds like Keith and Jimmy were wasted out of their mind trying to find some magic, but ultimately never happened. Still though was nice to hear, but like alot of the stuff they tack on to to these Deluxe re-releases (see Plundered), it will probably be quickly forgotten by most everyone - the general public and many Stones fans such as myself.
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Topi
Only Ronnie didn't pick them, did he? Apparently, Ronnie was in Germany on tour with The Faces in October 1974, at the time "Scarlet" was recorded.
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Justin
I'm late to the party but why then is an IORR outtake being released under GHS?
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Topi
Reportedly, Keith lived in the coach house of The Wick in 1974. And The Faces were indeed on tour in Germany in early October. Having said that, I obviously have no idea who invited who
(Also see [www.nzentgraf.de] - The Faces' European tour ran from September 10 to October 24)
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Justin
I'm late to the party but why then is an IORR outtake being released under GHS?
Par for the course with these deluxe reissues. Its actually a Black and Blue era outtake! The IORR album was finished well before this session - the album actually came put two weeks after it
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Justin
I'm late to the party but why then is an IORR outtake being released under GHS?
Par for the course with these deluxe reissues. Its actually a Black and Blue era outtake! The IORR album was finished well before this session - the album actually came put two weeks after it
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harlem shuffle
Nothing special with this one.Half finished track with a total messy sound
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harlem shuffle
Nothing special with this one.Half finished track with a total messy sound
Funny with headphones it's a pretty damn good listening experience