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Mathijs:
In your best guess, what guitar is Keith playing in the intro?
I'm guessing a Les Paul Custom.
The jam story may be true in that it happened when they first attempted the song or something, but it seems very unlikely that the released version is a recorded document of that first time.
Tis a bit shaky, tentative huh!? Still it's cool to hear em play it.
It makes sense. By the way, last time I saw Taylor live, while introducing Knocking he did say "this is something that I had been playing already some time before joining the stones".
C
Well, if true (and why not), perhaps this explains quite well the existence of quite two distinct "songs" in it. I need to say that the first time I wittnessed Taylor doing this song live, this sort of idea also came to my mind. Just playing the "jam part", Taylor sounded like remarking that he is playing something very much created by his own hands. (Anyway, watching that clip of the Stones rehearsing it, I was impressed of how "correctly" Keith plays the jam part, and kind of leads the band onwards. To know the thing so well implicates that he must have been quite involved in making it - he wouldn't bother to teach it from someone else I guess...)
Anyway, also to my ears the "jam part" sounds a bit too well-thought and arranged to be a real result of hectic jam moment.
Perhaps Keith confuses "Knock" with "Going Home", or quotes Eric Clapton from other masterpiece made about same time ("Layla") ....
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-01 16:32 by Doxa.
hmm, that makes sense, but more for "Midnight Rambler." Here's it the opposite--he's making a racket, not sneaking around. But maybe that's what he says in that line...
Would be my guess as well. Amp is harder though. It sounds like a tube amp, but it also has some fizziness like from a Big Muff or something. It also could be a Deluxe on 10 though, with the speaker farting out.
Mathijs
The chords and patterns Taylor plays during the jam indeed sounds like something he has been playing for quite some time. Another reason to not believe the "we did it in one go" story.
Mathijs
When I play it live with an open G Tele through a cranked Twin.....it is soooo close to Keiths sound.......
At lower volumes I just plug in my tube screamer.....
On the 'Jam' I sometimes flick to the neck 'bucker...bootiful
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-01 20:07 by Fingers.
Sounds like a description for a cranked Vox Supreme.
I think the only certainty regarding the amp is that it wasn't a Marshall hehe.
Piano indeed during the last chorus before the impro part ...
tut tut tut Amsterdamned........stirring up trouble again i see
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Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
batonrouge75
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Date: April 1, 2009 03:49
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Mathijs
Taylor does backup vocals as well.
Mathijs
Mathijs:
In your best guess, what guitar is Keith playing in the intro?
I'm guessing a Les Paul Custom.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
skipstone
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Date: April 1, 2009 05:18
"The song starts rather mediocre". Greatest ignorant statement OF THE YEAR! What a MORON!
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
skipstone
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Date: April 1, 2009 05:22
That run through is a bit odd eh?
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
René
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Date: April 1, 2009 09:22
cc & skipstone:
It's "plastic boots" & "flatted feet" indeed. Thanks!
loog doog:
Never heard about Pete Townshend & Ronnie Lane doing backing vocals before, new to me. Anyone else knows about this story?
René
It's "plastic boots" & "flatted feet" indeed. Thanks!
loog doog:
Never heard about Pete Townshend & Ronnie Lane doing backing vocals before, new to me. Anyone else knows about this story?
René
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
BBrew
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Date: April 1, 2009 11:48
One of my favorite
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: April 1, 2009 11:48
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slew
The opening riff is still thrilling 38 years later. An absolute masterpiece and I believe the jam story. Its like two songs in one! I can listen to the openeing riff all day same with Rocks Off. This is what the Stones are all about!
The jam story may be true in that it happened when they first attempted the song or something, but it seems very unlikely that the released version is a recorded document of that first time.
Quote
skipstone
That run through is a bit odd eh?
Tis a bit shaky, tentative huh!? Still it's cool to hear em play it.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
liddas
()
Date: April 1, 2009 12:47
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Mathijs
To my ears, both the sax and guitar solo are pre-thought, they were written to be recorded like this. It does not sound like a jam to me.
Mathijs
It makes sense. By the way, last time I saw Taylor live, while introducing Knocking he did say "this is something that I had been playing already some time before joining the stones".
C
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
terraplane
()
Date: April 1, 2009 13:58
Quote
skipstone
It is plastic boots and flatted feet.Quote
Plastic boots in one line of the song definitely. In the other line, I think he sings "Hear my prowling, I've got padded feet". That is, padded feet like a cat.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Slim Harpo
()
Date: April 1, 2009 15:31
I love the rehearsal clip. That's exactly how my band covers the intro! 
But this is a classic song. Quite an overdriven sound in the intro for Keith, does suggest the Les Paul. And I agree that the jam might just technically be a jam but has been very thoroughly rehearsed before this take or takes were put out.
But this is a classic song. Quite an overdriven sound in the intro for Keith, does suggest the Les Paul. And I agree that the jam might just technically be a jam but has been very thoroughly rehearsed before this take or takes were put out.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: April 1, 2009 16:29
Quote
liddasQuote
Mathijs
To my ears, both the sax and guitar solo are pre-thought, they were written to be recorded like this. It does not sound like a jam to me.
Mathijs
It makes sense. By the way, last time I saw Taylor live, while introducing Knocking he did say "this is something that I had been playing already some time before joining the stones".
C
Well, if true (and why not), perhaps this explains quite well the existence of quite two distinct "songs" in it. I need to say that the first time I wittnessed Taylor doing this song live, this sort of idea also came to my mind. Just playing the "jam part", Taylor sounded like remarking that he is playing something very much created by his own hands. (Anyway, watching that clip of the Stones rehearsing it, I was impressed of how "correctly" Keith plays the jam part, and kind of leads the band onwards. To know the thing so well implicates that he must have been quite involved in making it - he wouldn't bother to teach it from someone else I guess...)
Anyway, also to my ears the "jam part" sounds a bit too well-thought and arranged to be a real result of hectic jam moment.
Perhaps Keith confuses "Knock" with "Going Home", or quotes Eric Clapton from other masterpiece made about same time ("Layla") ....
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-01 16:32 by Doxa.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: April 1, 2009 16:41
Like Mick said about Keith saying "It just happens, man", ha ha, you don't just write a song like that and record it once. That thing was obviously rehearsed.
Regardless of how it was done, it's placement in the sequencing is brilliant. It really makes Sticky Fingers one of their most dynamic albums if not their most dynamic album (and their best album ever). The only other album that could come close to SF in terms of having everything one could possibly want from an album is Let It Bleed. But SF is a much better version of that I think. For example, where Midnight Rambler sounds a tad bit restrained on LIB, CYHMK sounds light years beyond it.
Regardless of how it was done, it's placement in the sequencing is brilliant. It really makes Sticky Fingers one of their most dynamic albums if not their most dynamic album (and their best album ever). The only other album that could come close to SF in terms of having everything one could possibly want from an album is Let It Bleed. But SF is a much better version of that I think. For example, where Midnight Rambler sounds a tad bit restrained on LIB, CYHMK sounds light years beyond it.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
cc
()
Date: April 1, 2009 16:58
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terraplaneQuote
skipstone
It is plastic boots and flatted feet.
Plastic boots in one line of the song definitely. In the other line, I think he sings "Hear my prowling, I've got padded feet". That is, padded feet like a cat.
hmm, that makes sense, but more for "Midnight Rambler." Here's it the opposite--he's making a racket, not sneaking around. But maybe that's what he says in that line...
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: April 1, 2009 17:01
....the opening riff is instantly recognizable....one of the best in rock ever.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: April 1, 2009 17:05
Flatted feet meaning noisy. That's my take on it anyway. Walking like a... what's the word...big forehead...I'm drawing a blank. Not cave man ha ha but...something.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
scottkeef
()
Date: April 1, 2009 17:11
According to my copy of the 1971 Abkco published music the first two lines are:" Yeah you got satin shoes, Yeah you've got plastic boots " and the other line "Hear me growlin',yeah, I've got flat-ted feet" but then the published lyrics aint always right, is it?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-01 17:12 by scottkeef.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-01 17:12 by scottkeef.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
cc
()
Date: April 1, 2009 17:28
yeah, I'm probably remembering the same published source. When you read that, then listen, it sounds right, but I don't know what I'd think if I'd never read it.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: April 1, 2009 19:44
Quote
batonrouge75Quote
Mathijs
Taylor does backup vocals as well.
Mathijs
Mathijs:
In your best guess, what guitar is Keith playing in the intro?
I'm guessing a Les Paul Custom.
Would be my guess as well. Amp is harder though. It sounds like a tube amp, but it also has some fizziness like from a Big Muff or something. It also could be a Deluxe on 10 though, with the speaker farting out.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: April 1, 2009 19:45
Quote
liddasQuote
Mathijs
To my ears, both the sax and guitar solo are pre-thought, they were written to be recorded like this. It does not sound like a jam to me.
Mathijs
It makes sense. By the way, last time I saw Taylor live, while introducing Knocking he did say "this is something that I had been playing already some time before joining the stones".
C
The chords and patterns Taylor plays during the jam indeed sounds like something he has been playing for quite some time. Another reason to not believe the "we did it in one go" story.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Fingers
()
Date: April 1, 2009 20:04
Quote
Slim Harpo
Quite an overdriven sound in the intro for Keith, does suggest the Les Paul. And I agree that the jam might just technically be a jam but has been very thoroughly rehearsed before this take or takes were put out.
When I play it live with an open G Tele through a cranked Twin.....it is soooo close to Keiths sound.......
At lower volumes I just plug in my tube screamer.....
On the 'Jam' I sometimes flick to the neck 'bucker...bootiful
Happy to be here....Happy to be anywhere.....
[www.myspace.com]
[www.facebook.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-01 20:07 by Fingers.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 1, 2009 20:39
Quote
Mathijs
Would be my guess as well. Amp is harder though. It sounds like a tube amp, but it also has some fizziness like from a Big Muff or something.
Mathijs
Sounds like a description for a cranked Vox Supreme.
I think the only certainty regarding the amp is that it wasn't a Marshall hehe.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: April 1, 2009 21:41
Fender Champ.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
FreeBird
()
Date: August 20, 2010 02:51
I can hear what I believe to be a piano on this track. It is most audible from 2:04 to 2:42. Does anyone agree with me on this? And if so, who do you think is playing it? It sounds like Stu to me, but I'm no expert - on the contrary, even.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-20 02:58 by FreeBird.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-20 02:58 by FreeBird.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
RobberBride
()
Date: August 20, 2010 10:52
Quote
FreeBird
I can hear what I believe to be a piano on this track. It is most audible from 2:04 to 2:42. Does anyone agree with me on this? And if so, who do you think is playing it? It sounds like Stu to me, but I'm no expert - on the contrary, even.
Piano indeed during the last chorus before the impro part ...
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
RobertJohnson
()
Date: August 20, 2010 12:31
There are two songs in one, the first rocking part is structured by riffmaster Keith, the second Jazz-influenced by MT and Bobby Keys. One of the few Stones songs with strong influences from Jazz patterns. A track that is suited for live improvisations.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
stoneswashed77
()
Date: August 20, 2010 13:47
Quote
skipstone
Fender Champ.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
stoneswashed77
()
Date: August 20, 2010 13:48
my favourite song. i also never believed the jam theory. forget it.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
VoodooLounge13
()
Date: August 20, 2010 19:37
GREAT SONG!! So glad I got the chance to hear it live on the Licks tour!
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: August 20, 2010 19:44
I wonder how much they payed Darryll to sit this through.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-20 19:46 by Amsterdamned.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-20 19:46 by Amsterdamned.
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
ThankGod
()
Date: August 20, 2010 20:04
Quote
Amsterdamned
I wonder how much they payed Darryll to sit this through.
tut tut tut Amsterdamned........stirring up trouble again i see
Re: Track Talk: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: August 20, 2010 20:44
<tut tut tut Amsterdamned........stirring up trouble again i see><ThankGod>
Pardon me your Highness,
My comment is not meant to be Stones bashing.
The guitar playing in particular here is an insult to the song imo.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-20 20:46 by Amsterdamned.
Pardon me your Highness,
My comment is not meant to be Stones bashing.
The guitar playing in particular here is an insult to the song imo.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-20 20:46 by Amsterdamned.
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