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Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: René ()
Date: January 19, 2009 10:24

Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!
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Black Limousine
(Mick Jagger / Keith Richards / Ron Wood)

Pathé Marconi Studios (EMI Studios), Boulogne-Billancourt, Paris, France,
June 10 - October 19, 1979 and Electric Ladyland Studios, New York City,
New York, US, November - December 1979

Mick Jagger - vocals, harmonica
Keith Richards - electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ron Wood - electric guitar
Ian Stewart - piano

We used to ride, baby
Ride around in limousines
We looked so fine, baby
You in white and me in green
Drinking and dancing
All inside our crazy dream
Well, now look at your face now, baby
Look at you and look at me

I get so scared
Just to see you on the street
They're living dead
You’re all the same, you never speak
You’re wrecked out now
Washed up high up on the beach
Well, now look at your face now, baby
Look at you and look at me, alright

We used to shine, shine, shine, shine
Say what a pair, say what a team
We used to ride, ride, ride, ride, ride
In a long black limousine
Those dreams are gone, baby
They’re locked away and never seen
Well, now look at your face now, baby
Look at you and look at me
Look out, yeah

Produced by The Glimmer Twins

First released on:
The Rolling Stones - “Tattoo You” LP
(Rolling Stones Records COC 16052) US, August 18, 1981

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: January 19, 2009 12:01

One of my all time favorites. Guitar and harmonica jamming jamming jamming like there is
no tomorrow. The Stones at their best. Having fun together, each adding his own touch to
the song.

Notice the little two count bar at the "Well now" line that makes it more than just a just
another 16 bar blues.
They skipped this two count bar at the live shows during the 81/82 tours though.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: Amused ()
Date: January 19, 2009 14:25

great blues... and Ronnie credited - that must be sth special :-)

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Date: January 19, 2009 14:31

<Notice the little two count bar at the "Well now" line that makes it more than just a just another 16 bar blues.>

More than 12 bar blues, u mean? Great song. Ronnie's playing is top notch.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 19, 2009 17:49

never counted it off to count the bars - but always seemed they tossed in a couple more before the turn around....i'll have to have another listent today and do the official count

always a fave since i heard a boot in the 70's with the title, "electric blues." it's the stones doing what they do best...

like the '95 version too - although for some reason the song doesn't work as well when woody plays it with the slide....

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: cc ()
Date: January 19, 2009 18:18

one of ron's highlights with the Stones. But it's mick's lyrics and vocal that give it depth.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: January 19, 2009 18:23

Another overlooked Bill Wyman kick ass bass lines... LOVE YOU BILL!!

Another exmaple of the Stones lost rythm section at its best. Great Keith rythm playing.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 19, 2009 18:27

and let's not forget mick's channeling jimmy reed's squeaky harp fills....

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: January 19, 2009 20:14

U r right. Mick plays a great harp.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: January 19, 2009 20:24

naa...my least favourite "standard" blues stones track.
i miss the blues...

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 19, 2009 20:24

That live version from LARS is the best. It doesn't work with slide? Are you nuts! That's excellent! And Keith's solo on that is brilliant as well.

I thought, according to Martin Elliot's book, this was recorded for Some Girls.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 19, 2009 20:31

Ah, here's why I thought it was for Some Girls:

771010B 10th October - 25th November and 5th - 21st December: Boulogne Billancourt (near
Paris), France, Pathé Marconi Studios. Producer: The Glimmer Twins. Sound engineer:
Additional musicians: Ian McLagan (piano on Miss You, organ on Just My
Imagination)/Sugar Blue [James Whiting] (harm)/Mel Collins (sax)/1 Moroccan
[=Hassan], 1 Jew (=Simon Kirke?), 1 WASP (perc)/Simon Kirke (perc)

- Black Limousine II (MJ/KR/RW) -early lyrics, unusual intro

[www.nzentgraf.de]

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 19, 2009 21:04

Quote
skipstone
That live version from LARS is the best. It doesn't work with slide? Are you nuts! That's excellent! And Keith's solo on that is brilliant as well.

I thought, according to Martin Elliot's book, this was recorded for Some Girls.

i'm sure i'm nuts, but that's not relevant here. some of woody's solos on this song durng the '81 tour represent his finest raw moments as stone. with the slide, he sorta fakes it on the solo...

yeah, it's a '77 paris sessions tune, i believe....

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 19, 2009 21:54

What's not relevant here? The 1995 version? Bollocks! It's a great performance and personally it's better than the LP version.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 19, 2009 21:55

it's not relevant that i'm nuts. settle down down, skippy.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 19, 2009 21:58

Oh damn! I totally misread what you said! Sorry T&A. It's your being nuts that's not relevant. Sometimes it is though. That's good.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 19, 2009 22:00

my personal two fave limo's are the hampton ppv version and the second seattle (personally attended)....ronnie does some hair-raisin' stuff both times....

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: January 19, 2009 22:01

From nzentgraf.de:

731113A 13th - 24th November: Munich, West-Germany, Musicland Studios (without MT).
Producers: MJ & KR (The Glimmer Twins). Sound engineers: Keith Harwood and Andy Johns.
- Ain’t Too Proud To Beg I (Norman Whitfield/Eddie Holland) -Billy Preston on piano; unverified early version
- Black Limousine I (MJ/KR/RW) -with Ron Wood on guitar; early instrumental version (probably under title Broken Head Blues)
- Fingerprint File I (MJ/KR) -Billy Preston on clavinet, (Charlie) Jolly Kunjappu on tabla; unverified early version
- If You Can’t Rock Me I (MJ/KR) -Billy Preston on clavinet; unverified early version
- Slow Down And Stop (MJ/KR) -nearly instrumental
Note: Ron Wood was present for one night of the sessions.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 19, 2009 22:11

I was reading that Mojo Rolling Stones issue from a couple of years ago and there is some article in there about Black And Blue and how they had come up with Hang Fire at that time and Too Tough has been documented as coming from that time as well.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: January 20, 2009 07:47

"Black Limousine" is a song by the Rolling Stones featured on their 1981 album Tattoo You.
Contents
[hide]

* 1 The song
* 2 Recording and aftermath
* 3 References
* 4 External links

[edit] The song

"Black Limousine" is one of the few credited to Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Ron Wood (though incidentally one of two featured on Tattoo You). "Black Limousine" is a hard blues number (described as "fast mid-tempo blues of no specific nature"[1] by Jagger) which heavily hearkens back to the Stones' earliest recordings from their ABCKO/London albums. Using a heavy bellow, Jagger delivers his lines and spells out the growing rifts in an aging romance;
“ We used to shine, shine, shine, shine, Say what a pair, say what a team; We used to ride, ride, ride, ride, In a long black limousine; Those dreams are gone baby, Locked away and never seen; Well now look at your face now baby, Look at you and look at me ”

On the lyrics, Richards said in 1981, "That song does have a more generous view of relationships with women... I guess, because the women in our lives at the moment have made a change in our attitudes toward it. I guess because everything that comes out from the Stones is just as it comes out... That's how we used to feel about it, and that's how we feel about it now. This is purely a guess... but it seems logical that the people you're with are the ones who are gonna influence you most, whether you intend it or not. Mick might intend to sit down and write a real Stones song - you know, 'Blechhh! You cruddy piece of shit, you dirty old scrub box!' But obviously, that's not the way he's feeling now. It's not the way I'm feeling now."[1]

On the music, Wood said in 2003, "'Black Limousine' came about from a slide guitar riff that was inspired in part by some Hop Wilson licks from a record that I once owned... And there was another guy called Big Moose, who I've never heard of before or since... He was an old slide guitar guy who had one particular lick that he would bring in every now and again. I thought, 'That's really good, I'm going to apply that' - and so subconsciously I wrote the whole song around that one little lick, building on it, resolving it and taking it round again... That was something that clicked musically straight away with the guitars and drums and Mick, and then we immediately got into sparring about the lyrics for it, since it was obviously crying out for some words... Mick's got his own style and that's why I let him interpret it in his own way..."[2]

[edit] Recording and aftermath

Recording began in January and ran through March, 1978, during the band's sessions at Paris' Pathé Marconi Studios for the album Some Girls. "Black Limousine" would again be brought out to be worked on by the band during the 1979 sessions for Emotional Rescue. However it would again return to the vault before again re-emerging during the Tattoo You sessions in mid-1981. With Jagger on vocals and shrieking harmonica, Richards and Wood performing the song's electric guitars, with Wood providing the solo. Sixth Stone Ian Stewart performs the song's piano. Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman perform the song's drums and bass, respectively.[1]

On his rare credit, Wood continued, saying, "I fought until I was blue in the face to get the credit, going on and on: 'I wrote that, I wrote that.' One of the lessons I had to learn was that if you want to get a credit, it has to happen there and then in the studio, as you're recording it."[2]

"Black Limousine" was performed heavily by the band during their American Tour 1981/European Tour 1982. It was also performed during the 1995 leg of the Voodoo Lounge Tour.[1] A recording was featured as a bonus track on the Japanese release of 1995s Stripped, as well as being the b-side to the album's lead single "Like a Rolling Stone."

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: January 20, 2009 08:24

... who are you quoting there, Loudei? or if you can add a link to whatever site that's from
that would be cool, please and thank you ...

update: okay i found it - Loudei's quoting wikipedia: [en.wikipedia.org]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-01-20 08:26 by with sssoul.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: goingmad ()
Date: January 20, 2009 11:05

The LARS single version it's amazing

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: slew ()
Date: January 20, 2009 14:57

Good song. I like it live.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: billwebster ()
Date: January 20, 2009 15:14

"Black Limousine" is a great rock n roll song. I prefer the 95 version. It's got a great bassline and great slide guitar.
I think "Black Limousine" is amongst the Top 3 songs of their entire catalogue.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: cc ()
Date: January 20, 2009 15:33

Quote
billwebster
I think "Black Limousine" is amongst the Top 3 songs of their entire catalogue.

wow... and I thought I liked this track.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Date: January 20, 2009 16:16

New solo added in studio for the 95 version...

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: January 20, 2009 16:35

Yeah, 95 version is supreme.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: January 20, 2009 20:49

Quote
billwebster
"Black Limousine" is a great rock n roll song. I prefer the 95 version. It's got a great bassline and great slide guitar.
I think "Black Limousine" is amongst the Top 3 songs of their entire catalogue.

really??? it's always amazing how tastes can be so different. it's a song that doesnt touch me at all (neither in a positive nore in a negative way). i just find it boring, average and it doesnt have that certain blues-feel....
well, cool it works for you guys...

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: January 21, 2009 00:43

I like the live 81 versions, they sound like an authentic blues band when they play it. Its impossible to hear this song and sit still.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2009-01-21 00:44 by ryanpow.

Re: Track Talk: Black Limousine
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: January 21, 2009 00:50

Quote
ryanpow
I like the live 81 versions, they sound like an authentic blues band when they play it. Its impossible to hear this song and sit still.

seems like the classic, proto-typical stones blues stomper, but as i think about it, i don't think there's every been another song like it in their setlists over the years....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-01-21 00:51 by T&A.

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