Bill Wyman seems like a tool to me and he can't wait to tell everybody what he did with his tool. He didn't even play bass on JJF. As far as I know, Brian was with Stu and Mick was with Keith and they all joined up, so someone starting it is not it, it was a combining.
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Quotestonehearted All Quiet On The Wasted Front.... ....But, seriously, why are there so many here who can't stand enjoying their greatest hits? These songs that people complain about, they were hits for a reason--they are their best work. Why would they play a concert showcasing only their substandard fillers and B-sides? Think of it this way: If you had a friend who was inter
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I don't think Mick and Keith's songwriting falls apart until the 80s and I'm no fan of Some Girls btw, but the songs on Some Girls are pretty good for what they were which were inspired by the punk/new wave/disco thing (some songs at least). I follow the Stones from the early 60s to Sticky Fingers and that's about it except for a few other songs like Angie and IORR but just
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QuoteHis Majesty Yeah, that's all there is to it, all nice and neat and tied up in a bow. That was the general process as far as I understand it from accounts by Jack and engineers who worked with the Stones etc etc. Brian did add the "Last Time Riff"and other things and Bill added bass riffs or whatever like 19th Nervous Breakdown and Charlie added Drum parts but the source o
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Keith goes into some songwriting things in his book about thinking of songs while swimming etc etc or something like that, and listening to the Beach Boys and obviously Motown as well and Brian and Bill and Charlie were not looking out for song ideas in the same way as Keith and Mick were. So, Keith would be inspired by the Supremes vocal line and end up altering it a bit and putting a middle
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QuoteDandelionPowderman <Keith might have used bits of the Supremes "My World Is Empty Without You" melody as a starting point for "Paint It Black"> I'm not so sure of that, really. Those first five notes are just a scale, and this could very well just be a coincidence. Maybe an inspiration, without being aware of it? It's easy, sitting in our armchairs s
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The Flight 505 0:19 thing sounds like "Let's Spend The Night Together" more than anything else. The JJF riff has 2 accents at the beginning of the riff just like the Satisfaction riff does but the JJF riff bass the descends down to the bVII unlike the Satisfaction riff. Like, the JJF riff's opening 2 accents start off in B and then the harmony descends to A for the rest
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QuoteOzHeavyThrobber Pink Floyd should be done for "Goodnye blue sky" completely ripping off "Ruby Tuesday". Save for swapping "blue sky" and "ruby Tuesday" in the chorus of each song they are identical. I don't agree "Nowhere to hide" is the prequel to the "Satisfaction". And that's because it is not. I love Zeppelin b
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The Mr Soul riff is somewhere between Satisfaction and JJF (maybe more Satisfaction than JJF) and the Mr Soul riff is obviously a rearrangement of the Satisfaction riff but it came out pre JJF, so I think Keith would have heard it especially as Jack Nitzsche had Buffalo Sringfield links and maybe it inspired Keith to rearrange the Satisfaction riff into the JJF riff, I don't know. I think
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I'm just saying that in the 60s and 70s there were lots of trends coming and going and Psychedelica was one of them and "She's A Rainbow" and "Satanaic Majesties" belongs to Psychedelica but by 1978 it's Punk/New Wave/Disco and "Miss You" and "Some Girls" belong to that period. There is not much of a chance that Mick is going to equate a w
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QuoteWitness Written on a mobile more than the time of a football match ago. So I don't what has happened in the thread since. howled, one of your objections is that "She's A Rainbow" dates from 1967 and not in 1978. As if 1978 is supposed to be a more authentic Stones year than 1967. For a band with its origin in the early 60s that could hardly be. I don't say this a
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She's A Rainbow is a good song and it's just a product of that Groovy period. Mick's lyrics are great IMO with the Rainbows and colours and combs etc but the song is what it is and belongs to that period and not to 1978. If some people want to live in 1967 then whatever, but the Stones didn't.
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QuoteWitness Quotehowled It's child like in the way it has a wonderment and fantasy element and songs are about flowers and colours or white rabbits or kaleidescope eyes or whatever. The context is childlike wonderment, colours, dreaming, surreal etc influenced by drug effects. If Mick was still singing about flowers and rainbows in 1975 then the Stones would have been a cult thing.
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QuoteHis Majesty Just to note that not all of that music involves childlike happy lyrics, there is a darkness. Also, two multi-million selling albums come from the well spring of experimental/psych/progressive music, those being... Sgt Pepper and Dark Side Of The Moon. Who knows, the stones might have eventually ended up with an equally high seller or two had they stuck with the more drug
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I think the Stones are a mixture of Blues and Rock and Pop but they can deviate from that depending on what trend they were chasing at what time to get in the charts. Motown Baroque/Pop Folk/Pop Disco/Punk/New Rockabilly Psychedelica Country Rock
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Not too bad and a bit Rockabilly.
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QuoteWitness Quotehowled As Mick said, there are only a few things on it that are ok, She's A Rainbow and 2,000 Light Years From Home, and all of the rest is filler and Gomper is just filler crap IMO. If the Stones were only capable of things like Gomper (and some bands were), then the Stones would have been over by 1968. ....... To you it is a relief that "Gomper" was not
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All that White Rabbit and Lucy In The Sky stuff is ok but it gets old pretty quick and that's why there is a psychedelic peak around 1967 and then it starts to dissipate but bits of it remain in some rock and some even continue with it in a sort of cult way. At the time it was great and it led to some new mixes of Folk and Rock etc but it's not really Chuck Berry or the Blues. Sur
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As Mick said, there are only a few things on it that are ok, She's A Rainbow and 2,000 Light Years From Home, and all of the rest is filler and Gomper is just filler crap IMO. If the Stones were only capable of things like Gomper (and some bands were), then the Stones would have been over by 1968. Mick said they took too much acid and that JJF was getting out of the acid things. The
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Marty: "If you could not play rock 'n' roll, what would you do?" David: "I'd be a full-time dreamer." Viv: "I'd probably get a bit stupid and start to make a fool of myself in public 'cause there wouldn't be a stage to go on." Derek: "Probably work with children." Mick Shrimpton (R.J. Parnell): "As long
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Rock and Roll started as a dance music. It's sometimes hard to dance to Bach. btw Keith is a big fan of Classical.
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QuoteHis Majesty A simple, "yes it is beautiful", would have been enough. As I was listening to it I couldn't help expecting "I've looked at life from both sides now" to enter.
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QuoteHis Majesty This is beautiful... Reminds me a bit of this below, but it's not as good as Joni IMO.
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If anyone wants to hear Malcolm on his own, then listen to Malcolm's solos and playing on Evie (written by Harry Vanda and George Young). Malcolm is a huge part of AC/DC, and someone could fill in for him for a tour, but not for the songwriting and other things. Mark Evans gives an account of how the early AC/DC songs were done, and George Young (Angus and Malcolm's brother) is in
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I think it might have been a story told to Brian by Leonard Chess's son. Maybe Muddy helped Leonard Chess in the early days sometimes by doing some part time things around the studio.
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Hard Rain and Satisfaction follow the same sort of format but Satisfaction has some bits rearranged. The "Cause I try" bit (corresponding to the "And it's a hard" bit) is put into an earlier place in Satisfaction and doesn't go to the chorus end bit (It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall) and in Satisfaction it has been rearranged into being a pre expanse bit
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Q: Can you remember any of the New York bands like the Patti Smith Group? Do you like Patti? JAGGER: "I think it's crap! I think she's so awful...she's full of rubbish, she's full of words and crap. I mean, she's a poseur of the worst kind, intellectual bullshit, trying to be a street girl when she doesn't seem to me to be one, I mean, everything...a useless
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