QuoteDandelionPowderman You think so, I think otherwise For me, they're "obvious" in exactly the same way songs like Bitch, Rip This Joint and Star Star are... Those earlier albums, Dandelion, and especially the big 4 are just more musical, not just in a more elaborate sense, as in being more complex, but in all the components possessing more musical richness and occasional s
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteEdward Twining QuoteDandelionPowderman <because many of the songs appear pretty one dimensional, almost like throwaways.> One-dimensional is musically a wrong description, Edward, as several of the songs had middle eights and bridges we weren't used to from the Stones. There are three fast rockers on the album that people think of, when they imo hasti
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QuoteDandelionPowderman <because many of the songs appear pretty one dimensional, almost like throwaways.> One-dimensional is musically a wrong description, Edward, as several of the songs had middle eights and bridges we weren't used to from the Stones. There are three fast rockers on the album that people think of, when they imo hastily conclude with what you write here. My
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Quotesvt22 Probably their best selling album after the MT era, I have to check out the statistics. I remember when it got released, tears of laughter, the guys clearly having fun, but soon creating a churting mood, all the songs sounding like one liners, a parody of themselves.. The Stones were the biggest rock band at that time, so they hardly could miss their target, just trying to get along
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I love this live version of 'Little Red Rooster', possibly more than any of the other Stones live performances on the Ed Sullivan Show, and especially the later ones which were mimed aside from Jagger's live vocal. I think musically this version is extremely fresh sounding with Brian supplying that wonderfully effective slide guitar. Rumour has it that Brian's slide playin
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The massive decline within the Stones came immediately after the album TATTOO YOU. However, if you are talking about the first hint of decline following their absolute peak, then GOATS HEAD SOUP is the album, and perhaps the autumn 73 concerts, the live shows. Many do see those live shows as the Stones absolute pinnacle, and to a point i can see why. The Stones do pretty much sound on fire. H
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QuoteJesse --The Stones have nothing to prove. They fill arena after arena -- and MT isn't the drawing card. --It's a matter of taste isn't it? You either like the two guitar sound of Ronnie and Keefe or you like longer guitar solos in which somebody is declared "best" guitarist. One can't argue taste. I like red, you like blue. --Places like Chicago
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QuoteJesse It's nice that they brought in MT and I hope he's going to do well for himself. But it's hard to have someone come in and try to prove something after 38 yrs. which is what I think he's trying to do. I keep thinking: HE left THEM. What I don't want is for MT to mess up the remainder of this tour so that people who don't really know and love the fans t
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Now you do... Well Dandelion, i rather like Taylor's performance here, even if he isn't quite in tune at times, simply because he's still doing what the Stones collectively used to do so well when they were at their peak, and when they were still living up to their name as 'the greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world'. There is a
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QuoteDandelionPowderman The safety net wasn't there before 2002 imo, the tours prior to ghat were too different, as was the musical output. What is the parallell between SW and B2B? Not much. From Licks and on I agree with you. However, for me there is a huge difference today in terms of venues, sound and performance. I like that difference. It's more back to basic. More small sc
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Quotekleermaker Dandy, as a matter of fact most of us are so excited to see The Rolling Stones as a whole with Taylor included. So many great comments about Keith and Jagger and praise for Ronnie and Charlie. It's just that when Taylor joins them there's so much going on, musically and in terms of interaction between ALL band members, that most of us get a strike
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Jagger doesn't feel 'Sway' at all, and that's the real problem here. He sings it like a pop song. Mick Taylor should have been given a few minutes of extended guitar soloing at the end. Carla Olsen understood the song's mood so much more than Jagger, and her's remains the definitive live version for me. Mick Taylor is sounding so much more integrated with the rest o
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QuoteDandelionPowderman David Sanborne's magnificent sax solo and Mick's wild vocals are climaxes enough for me. It's all about individual expectations and taste, Edward. I think of Feel On Baby as a musical masterpiece, you're obviously not there. GHS is brilliantly produced (not sound-wise), but that doesn't necessarily mean that the songs are finished, song writi
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Sometimes simple grooves work better than advancly crafted songs, sometimes not. Dandelion, the point i'm really trying to make is the Stones were still young enough to sound good on UNDERCOVER, even if the song/arrangement content was often fairly mediocre. That's my thought on 'Pretty Beat Up', also. The song tends to get stuck in a groove but
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteEdward Twining QuoteDandelionPowderman <in terms of the quality of the writing, arranging, production etc. UNDERCOVER ranks as one of the Stones most underwhelming efforts> By whom? The critics praised the album when it came out - mainly. The fans enjoy many of the songs on it, and it usually is topping the list of "latter day Stones-albums". U
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QuoteDandelionPowderman <in terms of the quality of the writing, arranging, production etc. UNDERCOVER ranks as one of the Stones most underwhelming efforts> By whom? The critics praised the album when it came out - mainly. The fans enjoy many of the songs on it, and it usually is topping the list of "latter day Stones-albums". UNDERCOVER does have a refreshing level of sp
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Quotekammpberg Stones Fan – **** Casual Listener - ** After the gargantuan success of Tattoo You and its corresponding tours, The Stones entered their darkest period of their career with Undercover. MTV had become a huge force, and the band responded by producing three of their greatest videos for this album. But all was not great within the Stones camp, and it showed on what is their ble
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QuoteDandelionPowderman My take on it is that the Stones realised they had gold, a forte to compete with other contemporary bands with - in Taylor. After a while they realised that his contributions (autumn 1973) lead them a bit off their vision of the band. I'm fully aware of this not being the "accepted" opinion about 1973 - it's just my opinion - and there are both good and
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QuoteDandelionPowderman That is true, Edward, although I think (and it is well-documented by statements from the band as well) that Taylor expanded his role in band. That might very well be because of what was happening on the music scene at the time, but Keith's role was also diminished . and there is nothing that indicates that he was in such a bad state that he couldn't play as much
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteEdward Twining I love Taylor, because he gave the Stones infinite possibilities, especially in the lead/slide guitar department, just as Brian Jones did when he added the various textures of multi instrumental sound to their sixties recordings. I can certainly see the point where some say he began overplaying on the 73 autumn tour, in a kind of musical detachment perh
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I love Taylor, because he gave the Stones infinite possibilities, especially in the lead/slide guitar department, just as Brian Jones did when he added the various textures of multi instrumental sound to their sixties recordings. I can certainly see the point where some say he began overplaying on the 73 autumn tour, in a kind of musical detachment perhaps, but part of me enjoys the artistic expr
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Quotepinkfloydthebarber Quote71Tele Quotepinkfloydthebarber in regards to The Stones I weight equally the "Taylor Era" (1969-73) and "Ronnie Era" (1975-82). I think they both fitted to the band marvelously in their time, and helped the band to reshape their sound and to sound better - i hear ya doxa but the thing to me that matters..is the tunes and they were so so so
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Quote71Tele As someone who clearly prefers Taylor's period in the band overall to Wood's, it pains me to say that not only have Taylor's skills diminished but that he has lost the ability and perhaps the interest in melding with a song rather than just playing lead. The Taylor I miss is the one who put in all those tasty rhythm parts and licks on songs like Sympathy and I'm Fr
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QuoteDoxa I am glad Edward Twining shares the appreciation towards PRIMITIVE COOL that I have - there are not many of us... But behind the slick surface I hear there an inspired artist and a real touch of muse I don't hear in any Stones album ever since; it is there if one just digs a bit (only some Richards solo and Stones songs and WANDERING SPIRIT comes close, but the latter is rather eas
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Quotestonehearted I wonder if I can pinpoint what it is that makes virtually all of Mick's solo material fall flat, because it is a rather nice tune with a memorable hook. But even the dullest of Stones tracks has something Mick's solo work doesn't--The Stones. The Stones are a rock band, and if recorded by The Stones this track would have sounded more like a rock song, rather than
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Lady Jayne, i am not sure i agree with you with regards to 'Sympathy For The Devil' and 'Salt Of The Earth'. What i love about BEGGARS BANQUET is its lack of pretence, in terms of what constitutes the basic ingredients of each song. The Stones on BEGGARS BANQUET tend never to overreach themselves in terms of them attempting to appear too 'grand',or over inflated etc.
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QuoteLady Jayne LIB is my favourite album of all time, Stones or otherwise. I think the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. For me, each number is perfectly placed within the album as a whole - as someone else has written, the 60's shifting into the 70's. It also sums up the two strands of the the Glimmer Twins songwriting genius at each end of the record - Gimme Shelter is al
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QuoteStrawberriesBlueberries I suppose with the improvised parts you mean the ones after 2:36 and 3:52? I think he tries to approximate the version they did in the 60s. There is also a slot with this variation of melody. But in the 60s video I know (www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-G6tc1w_7g), it is brilliantly done, with a rocking voice, here it is thin, almost breathless screaming and I understand wha
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QuoteBig Al Quotetreaclefingers And Paint it, Black in particular. Well, of course. The Stones moments of mid-60's greatness were on par with Beatles. It's just that Lennon and McCarthey were more consistent in their quality of songwriting from the beginning. It took Mick and Keith a little longer to develop. By the time of Jumpin' Jack Flash and Beggars Banquet, they had cau
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I was referring to the version of 'I Wanna Be Your Man' from the 25th, StrawberriesBlueberries. I do agree the song did sound a bit forced, but i thought it was ok when Jagger sang the original vocal melody line, but when he deviated and started to improvise a little more as the song progressed, i found myself feeling irritated by his voice. I don't think, however much Jagg
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