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I hope it works - my first upload...

I took an old bootleg-version and fixed the messed up intro with AUDACITY.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-06 12:45 by deardoctor.

No one´s interested in STRICTLY MEMPHIS with completed intro? Really?

Thank you for your time and effort! Haven't got around for listening yet. Will try to do this later today.

Very good! Thank you for fixing that!

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deardoctor
No one´s interested in STRICTLY MEMPHIS with completed intro? Really?

We have a song with incomplete/truncated intro. But it is genuine.

What you do is re-writing studio recordings history.

Why do you do that ? You know that sooner or later some people will consider your fake as a genuine recording.

P.S. I have nothing against you. But collecting studio recording is a complicated task, and more complicated if there are Frankenstein songs circulating.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-06 21:20 by LiveAtHidepark.

Thank you Deardoctor

THX

Thank you, nice job.

You fixed a glitch. You did a good job.

(You did not rewrite "studio recording history")

Thanks.

Instead of using a piece of another version (that does not belong here?) it would be more useful to just remove the gap in this version and otherwise leave it as it is: [we.tl]

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deardoctor
No one´s interested in STRICTLY MEMPHIS with completed intro? Really?

We have a song with incomplete/truncated intro. But it is genuine.

What you do is re-writing studio recordings history.

Why do you do that ? You know that sooner or later some people will consider your fake as a genuine recording.

P.S. I have nothing against you. But collecting studio recording is a complicated task, and more complicated if there are Frankenstein songs circulating.

I know what you mean. But in this case you´re wrong:
It´s more like fixing an incomplete soundboard recording with an audience source from the same song same date.
I took the same basic track of Strictly Memphis we got for years (without the horn overdub).
It´s still their genuine recording but without the technical mistake that was done while transferring the tape or whatever.

Anyway, of course it´s ok, to decide not to take it. In my case I love this track so much that I like to hear it as it was recorded.
Of course I would accept an messed up intro by keith. But this technical gap ist not in responisbility by the Stones, so why not to fix it if it´s possible?

By the way: nice example for a real "Frankenstein song": "Start me up" from "Sweet summer sun". The Stones fixed the messed up intro by redoing later in the studio. I would not do such thing.

Yeah I'd gone back to the known outtakes and the backing track seems similar to the FFSO one. However the beat is off in both of these "fixed"versions, unlike the one here [iorr.org]

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Yeah I'd gone back to the known outtakes and the backing track seems similar to the FFSO one. However the beat is off in both of these "fixed"versions, unlike the one here [iorr.org]

I gotta admit you are quite right.

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deardoctor
No one´s interested in STRICTLY MEMPHIS with completed intro? Really?

We have a song with incomplete/truncated intro. But it is genuine.

What you do is re-writing studio recordings history.

Why do you do that ? You know that sooner or later some people will consider your fake as a genuine recording.

P.S. I have nothing against you. But collecting studio recording is a complicated task, and more complicated if there are Frankenstein songs circulating.

This would be like, you get sick and go to the doctor, who cure your sickness, but someone claims you are not "genuine" any more. There is nothing genuine about technical fault, or "drop out" in this case.

It's great one!
But, I think it's much better to fix the intro with left-right channels reversed, as past bootlegs channels of this song are reversed against FFSO version.

Already bootlegged! ><
[www.boardwalk2018.jp]

Are they that hungry in Shinjuku?

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dcba
Already bootlegged! ><
[www.boardwalk2018.jp]

Are they that hungry in Shinjuku?

This one is the earliest release with fixed intro.
[www.giginjapan.com]

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gotdablouse
Yeah I'd gone back to the known outtakes and the backing track seems similar to the FFSO one. However the beat is off in both of these "fixed"versions, unlike the one here [iorr.org]

I gotta admit you are quite right.

Everybody may compare. "My" version starts with ONE and has this extra second with cymbal in the beginning. That´s not an offbeat.

Anyway it´s a great remastering job as always CaptainAcid. Did you ever do an remastering of the "old known" LIVING IN A HEART OF LOVE which for me is miles better than the now surfaced version?

@deardoctor

sorry, i did not mean to offend anybody, i just meant that fix i did is quite perfect. I did not have the need to check any other version, of the fixed version.

As for "old known" LIVING IN A HEART OF LOVE, i don`t know, can`t remember if i did.

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dcba
Already bootlegged! ><
[www.boardwalk2018.jp]

Are they that hungry in Shinjuku?

This one is the earliest release with fixed intro.
[www.giginjapan.com]

Well, no, i have fixed mine before that one.....do you have that version? I suspect it might be another one of my remasters, sold by greedy bootleggers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-07 15:12 by CaptainAcid.

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@deardoctor

sorry, i did not mean to offend anybody, i just meant that fix i did is quite perfect. I did not have the need to check any other version, of the fixed version.

As for "old known" LIVING IN A HEART OF LOVE, i don`t know, can`t remember if i did.

Dear CaptainAcid,
I did not feel offended by you, but thanks for your reply. You´re a nice guy, that shared lot´s of great work for which I´m very thankful.
In this case my fixing is an upgrade to your editing.



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dcba
Already bootlegged! ><
[www.boardwalk2018.jp]

Are they that hungry in Shinjuku?

This one is the earliest release with fixed intro.
[www.giginjapan.com]

Well, no, i have fixed mine before that one.....do you have that version? I suspect it might be another one of my remasters, sold by greedy bootleggers.

Oh, your post was earlier than the bootleg, I have.
But that bootleg was released on April 1st as pressed 3CD.
So, it's not from your remaster, and chronological order is different from yours.

P.S.
The bootleg's fixed intro was also different from your remaster.
[we.tl]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-07 16:19 by atsu69.

Yes that one sounds more natural with the stereo reversed as you'd suggested above. When comparing with the old known booted versions I remember noticing that many of the tracks on FFSO had their channels reversed. Did they mess things up by accident or was it done on purpose to help cover their source ? Strange, like the generally ridiculous recording dates they showed that could have been easily improved by looking at reference sites.

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CaptainAcid

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atsu69

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dcba
Already bootlegged! ><
[www.boardwalk2018.jp]

Are they that hungry in Shinjuku?

This one is the earliest release with fixed intro.
[www.giginjapan.com]

Well, no, i have fixed mine before that one.....do you have that version? I suspect it might be another one of my remasters, sold by greedy bootleggers.

Oh, your post was earlier than the bootleg, I have.
But that bootleg was released on April 1st as pressed 3CD.
So, it's not from your remaster, and chronological order is different from yours.

P.S.
The bootleg's fixed intro was also different from your remaster.
[we.tl]

Source is "mine" indeed (I edited the silence after the first guitar-tone, so I´m sure about that.) Reversing the channels was a good idea. Cannot be from 1. April. I guess it´s from the boot that contains the seven BTB-tracks that was mentioned above. The bootleggers are quick as hell...



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deardoctor

Source is "mine" indeed (I edited the silence after the first guitar-tone, so I´m sure about that.) Reversing the channels was a good idea. Cannot be from 1. April. I guess it´s from the boot that contains the seven BTB-tracks that was mentioned above. The bootleggers are quick as hell...

Believe or not, the bootleg was released on April 1st.
Can you hear the count, one two three on the bootleg version?
It's not on yours.

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CaptainAcid
@deardoctor

sorry, i did not mean to offend anybody, i just meant that fix i did is quite perfect. I did not have the need to check any other version, of the fixed version.

As for "old known" LIVING IN A HEART OF LOVE, i don`t know, can`t remember if i did.

Dear CaptainAcid,
I did not feel offended by you, but thanks for your reply. You´re a nice guy, that shared lot´s of great work for which I´m very thankful.
In this case my fixing is an upgrade to your editing.

o.k. now i had to check your edit ....i see, you have an intro and a cymbal before, good job. I have fixed only what was a drop out on the version that was on FFSO original disc

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deardoctor

Source is "mine" indeed (I edited the silence after the first guitar-tone, so I´m sure about that.) Reversing the channels was a good idea. Cannot be from 1. April. I guess it´s from the boot that contains the seven BTB-tracks that was mentioned above. The bootleggers are quick as hell...

Believe or not, the bootleg was released on April 1st.
Can you hear the count, one two three on the bootleg version?
It's not on yours.

Right and thanks to reversing the channels of the old booted backing track it flows naturally into the FFSO version. That was the way to go.

BTW, are there any other "improvements" you can hear on that boot over FFSO ?

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

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deardoctor

Source is "mine" indeed (I edited the silence after the first guitar-tone, so I´m sure about that.) Reversing the channels was a good idea. Cannot be from 1. April. I guess it´s from the boot that contains the seven BTB-tracks that was mentioned above. The bootleggers are quick as hell...

Believe or not, the bootleg was released on April 1st.
Can you hear the count, one two three on the bootleg version?
It's not on yours.

I checked with earphones. I only can hear "one" on both versions. But yes, the silence in the beginning is a bit longer so you´re right, it seems to be another version doing exactly what I did (+ reversing the channels)

Since there still seems to be some confusion they only reversed the channels on the old booted track of course so as to match the version on FFSO and make them flow naturally, unlike yours which has that oddness (180 panning) where they merge.

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-07 19:37 by gotdablouse.