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Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: September 21, 2020 10:50

I have this two if you're interesting on!



Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: Rolling on ()
Date: September 21, 2020 14:57

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StonyRoad
I have this two if you're interesting on!




Please...

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gonzalo76 ()
Date: September 21, 2020 19:34

Quote
CaptainAcid
I think this upgrade of mine should also be here, i think this one is the best one so far. It`s 2020 upgrade of my previous remaster.


[mega.nz]

Exactly!!!
I just found this version yesterday at the IORR Vault "Captain Acid Remaster" as APCD 018 1977.03.04+05 El Mocambo_CaptainAcidRemaster_UPGRADEofAnUpgrade_2020!
I didn't see it anywhere, only here.
Thank you so much Captain for all your great work!!!

NEW INFO:

Just as i have shared this upgrade, 3 tracks from better sources emerged. Those were kindly shared by BlueTurns2Gray on iorr. Those tracks are:

01. Route 66, not from the acetate! No crackles, it's soundboard and has a slightly longer outro!NEW!(Channels converted)

03. Crazy Mama, without speed problem on first note, more clear sound. NEW!(Channels converted)

06. Dance Little Sister, acetate version, more clear sound. NEW!

I have remastered all 3 tracks and incorporeted in the album. I also did some edits on intros and outros of some of those tracks,incorporating longer ones.

Captain Acid, May 2020



This is version 3.....UPGRADE 2020 (April) to my remasters from 2012 & 2016. It started when i discovered that last track from Version 2 was lossy.
So i used the one from version 1.
Also used tracks 1,6 and 7 (from version 1). I did little bit more EQ and some editing.

Captain Acid, April 2020

4th & 5th March: Toronto, Canada, El Mocambo Tavern
Note: Soundboard recording was made by Eddie Kramer.
Soundboard recording remastered by Captain Acid in May 2012 and October 2016.....and this version April 2020

01. Route 66
02. Hand Of Fate
03. Crazy Mama CUT.
04. Mannish Boy
05. Crackin`Up
06. Dance Little Sister
07. Around And Around
08. Worried About You
09. Let`s Spend Night Together_completed
10. Band Intro
11. Little Red Rooster

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gonzalo76 ()
Date: September 21, 2020 19:44

Quote
StonyRoad
I have this two if you're interesting on!



Yes please!
Thank you!

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gonzalo76 ()
Date: September 21, 2020 20:00

SEXUAL HEALING
DOG n CAT RECORDS [DAC-117] , 1 CD

CD 1:

1. Worried About You [07:52]
2. Crackin' Up [00:22]
3. Route 66 [03:02]
4. Hand Of Fate [04:08]
5. Around And Around [03:34]
6. Route 66 [04:14]
7. Crackin' Up [05:21]
8. Little Red Rooster [05:33]
9. Let's Spend the Night Together [04:03]
10. Worried About You [07:54]
11. Crackin' Up [05:18]
12. Let's Spend the Night Together [02:49]
13. Route 66 [03:03]
14. Hand Of Fate [04:07]
15. Around And Around [03:35]
16. Crazy Mama [00:22]
17. Little Red Rooster [06:32]
18. Dance Little Sister [04:04]
19. Route 66 [04:04]

• 1977-03-04: El Mocambo, Toronto, Canada, Live Concert
Track: 1-16

• 1977-03-05: El Mocambo, Toronto, Canada, Live Concert
Track: 17-19

Bootleg comments:

Released: 2011. Origin: Japan.
Soundboard stereo except for Tracks 10-16 Soundboard mono.
SOURCE:
El Mocambo, Toronto 4th and 5th March (Tracks 17-19)1977
Tracks 1-5 Tape A Stereo Re-Mix
Tracks 6-9 Stereo Re-Mix Tape B
Tracks 10-16 Mono Upgrade
Tracks 17-19 Acetate Declicked.

RUNNING TIME: 79.17 min

All tracks come from the first concert while the acetate tracks "Dance Little Sister", "Route 66" and "Little Red Rooster" are from the second night.
This release presents two different stereo sources and a mono one with substantially no new song but better sounding tracks, including the de-clicked acetate tracks in the best shape possible.

[www.dbboots.com]


from stonesvault

[we.tl]

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: ikikmanuel4 ()
Date: September 21, 2020 21:23

Thanks to all the up-loaders.thumbs up

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: BlueTurns2Grey ()
Date: September 21, 2020 23:49

My personal resume is, that there must be minimum 3 sources for the El Mocambo tracks.

1. The 3 acetate tracks - some are very good declicked
2. The tape tracks - ca. 30 minutes, LSTNT and CM are cuts. Higher generations have a speed problem at the beginning of CM
3. A reel or tape with the complete LSTNT track

Sometimes transfered in mono only.

IMO, CaptainAcid made the best collection from all these tracks. It was nice to compare all your uploads. Thanks to all of you. smileys with beer

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: ikikmanuel4 ()
Date: September 22, 2020 11:33

The DVD that belongs to "Stereo Mocambo Reels 1977 [IMP-N-017]"

Link: [we.tl]

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 22, 2020 11:46

Have those, who endured all these versions of the awful rendition of WAYou, managed to survive the ordeal? grinning smiley

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: September 22, 2020 12:06

I loved that WAY version ever since getting a red vinyl of El Mocambo in the early 90s, the time one sent Deutsche Mark in envelope to purchase bootlegs.
Jagger doing falsetto live for the first time, great playing, what's not to like? But opinions are-----you know....

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 22, 2020 15:59

Erik you're a black belt in Stonemania so I can't compete with you but imo that version is very tentative and the fact that Mick begs Ronnie to play a decent solo (he can't...) "kills" the track for me.

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: September 22, 2020 16:21

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dcba
Quote
stonesman87
The only question is when.

If the Covid lasts long enough and prevents the band from touring, Mick will have to "put another log in the fireplace" = release some more stuff to keep the media focused on the band.

Therefore grinning smiley a 1976 Paris DVD with a bonus CD of Mocambo cuts might be suitable.

you're talking about the black&blue deluxe box from 2022?

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gonzalo76 ()
Date: September 22, 2020 17:11

Quote
ikikmanuel4
The DVD that belongs to "Stereo Mocambo Reels 1977 [IMP-N-017]"

Link: [we.tl]

Thank you! thumbs up

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: September 22, 2020 23:41

THX ALL

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: September 23, 2020 18:40

Thanks to all! Captain Acid, really nice improvement on all the sources. thumbs up

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gomper076 ()
Date: September 27, 2020 15:15

Quote
gonzalo76
El Mocambo 1977+ [RTR-029] (Remaster by dmccabe)
Upped to guitars101 by dmccabe
[we.tl]

The Rolling Stones
El Mocambo 1977+

Label: Red Tongue Records
Catalog number: RTR-029
Source: Soundboard recording
Limited edition: 700 items
Format: 2xCD + 4xLP
Release date: 2013


dmccabe
This SBD recording suffers from over saturation from clipped levels. I did a remaster with Ozone De-Clip and a few other magic sprinkles. Tell me what you think. CD 2 sounds much better. Only a 7-day seed, so grab it fast. Someone can repost it if they like it.


A1 Route 66
A2 Honky Tonk Woman
A3 Hand Of Fate
A4 Fool To Cry (Incomplete)
A5 Dance Little Sister
B1 Mannish Boy
B2 Crackin' Up
B3 All Down The Line
B4 Around And Around
C1 @#$%&
C2 Worried About You
C3 Let's Spend The Night Together
C4 Band Intro
D1 Little Red Rooster
D2 Brown Sugar
D3 Jumping Jack Flash
D4 Crazy Mama (Incomplete)
D5 Little Red Rooster (March 5)
E1 Prodigal Son
E2 Let It Rock
E3 Respectable
E4 @#$%&
E5 Beast Of Burden
F1 Just My Imagination
F2 When The Whip Comes Down
F3 Shattered
G1 Miss You
G2 Jumping Jack Flash
G3 Before They Make Me Run
H1 Worried Life Blues
H2 Sing Me Back Home
H3 She Still Comes Around
H4 Apartment No. 9
H5 Say It's Not You
H6 Worried Life Blues II

SIDES 1-4: LIVE AT THE EL MOCAMBO TAVERN, TORONTO, CANADA, MARCH 4 & 5, 1977. SOUNDBOARD RECORDING.
SIDES 5-7: THE OSHAWA CIVIC AUDITORIUM, TORONTO, CANADA, APRIL 22, 1979
SIDE 8: BONUS TRACKS FROM KEITH RICHARDS SOUNDS INTERCHANGE RECORDING STUDIOS STUDIO SESSIONS, TORONTO, CANADA, MARCH 12-13, 1977


However, despite what the LP track listing says, only some of the songs on Sides 1-4 are from El Mocambo. These are the same tracks as other El Mocambo distributions.


• El Mocambo, Toronto. 4th March 1977
A1. Route 66 3:28
A3. Hand Of Fate 4:19
A5. Dance Little Sister 4:06
B1. Mannish Boy 6:12
B2. Crackin' Up 5:39
B4. Around And Around 3:57
C2. Worried About You 7:53
C3. Let's Spend The Night Together 4:04
C4. Band Introduction 1:44
D1. Little Red Rooster 5:50
D4. Crazy Mama 3:03

• El Mocambo, Toronto. 5th March 1977
D5 Little Red Rooster 6:32

Great thread. I think Captain Acid is the best I've heard but I missed the above remaster. Is it possible to get a new link for it? Thanks

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gonzalo76 ()
Date: September 27, 2020 19:37

Quote
gomper076
Quote
gonzalo76
El Mocambo 1977+ [RTR-029] (Remaster by dmccabe)
Upped to guitars101 by dmccabe
[we.tl]

The Rolling Stones
El Mocambo 1977+

Label: Red Tongue Records
Catalog number: RTR-029
Source: Soundboard recording
Limited edition: 700 items
Format: 2xCD + 4xLP
Release date: 2013


dmccabe
This SBD recording suffers from over saturation from clipped levels. I did a remaster with Ozone De-Clip and a few other magic sprinkles. Tell me what you think. CD 2 sounds much better. Only a 7-day seed, so grab it fast. Someone can repost it if they like it.


A1 Route 66
A2 Honky Tonk Woman
A3 Hand Of Fate
A4 Fool To Cry (Incomplete)
A5 Dance Little Sister
B1 Mannish Boy
B2 Crackin' Up
B3 All Down The Line
B4 Around And Around
C1 @#$%&
C2 Worried About You
C3 Let's Spend The Night Together
C4 Band Intro
D1 Little Red Rooster
D2 Brown Sugar
D3 Jumping Jack Flash
D4 Crazy Mama (Incomplete)
D5 Little Red Rooster (March 5)
E1 Prodigal Son
E2 Let It Rock
E3 Respectable
E4 @#$%&
E5 Beast Of Burden
F1 Just My Imagination
F2 When The Whip Comes Down
F3 Shattered
G1 Miss You
G2 Jumping Jack Flash
G3 Before They Make Me Run
H1 Worried Life Blues
H2 Sing Me Back Home
H3 She Still Comes Around
H4 Apartment No. 9
H5 Say It's Not You
H6 Worried Life Blues II

SIDES 1-4: LIVE AT THE EL MOCAMBO TAVERN, TORONTO, CANADA, MARCH 4 & 5, 1977. SOUNDBOARD RECORDING.
SIDES 5-7: THE OSHAWA CIVIC AUDITORIUM, TORONTO, CANADA, APRIL 22, 1979
SIDE 8: BONUS TRACKS FROM KEITH RICHARDS SOUNDS INTERCHANGE RECORDING STUDIOS STUDIO SESSIONS, TORONTO, CANADA, MARCH 12-13, 1977


However, despite what the LP track listing says, only some of the songs on Sides 1-4 are from El Mocambo. These are the same tracks as other El Mocambo distributions.


• El Mocambo, Toronto. 4th March 1977
A1. Route 66 3:28
A3. Hand Of Fate 4:19
A5. Dance Little Sister 4:06
B1. Mannish Boy 6:12
B2. Crackin' Up 5:39
B4. Around And Around 3:57
C2. Worried About You 7:53
C3. Let's Spend The Night Together 4:04
C4. Band Introduction 1:44
D1. Little Red Rooster 5:50
D4. Crazy Mama 3:03

• El Mocambo, Toronto. 5th March 1977
D5 Little Red Rooster 6:32

Great thread. I think Captain Acid is the best I've heard but I missed the above remaster. Is it possible to get a new link for it? Thanks

[mega.nz]

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: September 27, 2020 22:39

Sorry but I have bad news: my (original) cd now appears as a blank disc! I send you the picture of the appearance of the cd: it has really changed color! ...
arghhh i am really worried that some of my cds from this time will get erased !!!!

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gomper076 ()
Date: September 27, 2020 22:54

Quote
gonzalo76
Quote
gomper076
Quote
gonzalo76
El Mocambo 1977+ [RTR-029] (Remaster by dmccabe)
Upped to guitars101 by dmccabe
[we.tl]

The Rolling Stones
El Mocambo 1977+

Label: Red Tongue Records
Catalog number: RTR-029
Source: Soundboard recording
Limited edition: 700 items
Format: 2xCD + 4xLP
Release date: 2013


dmccabe
This SBD recording suffers from over saturation from clipped levels. I did a remaster with Ozone De-Clip and a few other magic sprinkles. Tell me what you think. CD 2 sounds much better. Only a 7-day seed, so grab it fast. Someone can repost it if they like it.


A1 Route 66
A2 Honky Tonk Woman
A3 Hand Of Fate
A4 Fool To Cry (Incomplete)
A5 Dance Little Sister
B1 Mannish Boy
B2 Crackin' Up
B3 All Down The Line
B4 Around And Around
C1 @#$%&
C2 Worried About You
C3 Let's Spend The Night Together
C4 Band Intro
D1 Little Red Rooster
D2 Brown Sugar
D3 Jumping Jack Flash
D4 Crazy Mama (Incomplete)
D5 Little Red Rooster (March 5)
E1 Prodigal Son
E2 Let It Rock
E3 Respectable
E4 @#$%&
E5 Beast Of Burden
F1 Just My Imagination
F2 When The Whip Comes Down
F3 Shattered
G1 Miss You
G2 Jumping Jack Flash
G3 Before They Make Me Run
H1 Worried Life Blues
H2 Sing Me Back Home
H3 She Still Comes Around
H4 Apartment No. 9
H5 Say It's Not You
H6 Worried Life Blues II

SIDES 1-4: LIVE AT THE EL MOCAMBO TAVERN, TORONTO, CANADA, MARCH 4 & 5, 1977. SOUNDBOARD RECORDING.
SIDES 5-7: THE OSHAWA CIVIC AUDITORIUM, TORONTO, CANADA, APRIL 22, 1979
SIDE 8: BONUS TRACKS FROM KEITH RICHARDS SOUNDS INTERCHANGE RECORDING STUDIOS STUDIO SESSIONS, TORONTO, CANADA, MARCH 12-13, 1977


However, despite what the LP track listing says, only some of the songs on Sides 1-4 are from El Mocambo. These are the same tracks as other El Mocambo distributions.


• El Mocambo, Toronto. 4th March 1977
A1. Route 66 3:28
A3. Hand Of Fate 4:19
A5. Dance Little Sister 4:06
B1. Mannish Boy 6:12
B2. Crackin' Up 5:39
B4. Around And Around 3:57
C2. Worried About You 7:53
C3. Let's Spend The Night Together 4:04
C4. Band Introduction 1:44
D1. Little Red Rooster 5:50
D4. Crazy Mama 3:03

• El Mocambo, Toronto. 5th March 1977
D5 Little Red Rooster 6:32

Great thread. I think Captain Acid is the best I've heard but I missed the above remaster. Is it possible to get a new link for it? Thanks

[mega.nz]

Thank you gonzalo.

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gonzalo76 ()
Date: September 29, 2020 01:56

Quote
StonyRoad
Sorry but I have bad news: my (original) cd now appears as a blank disc! I send you the picture of the appearance of the cd: it has really changed color! ...
arghhh i am really worried that some of my cds from this time will get erased !!!!

Oh what a shame! sad smiley
Did you try with another CD/DVD/BD drive?
Thank you!

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 18, 2021 13:34

Does anyone know/recall the story of the "acetate" ? Is it an official acetate that was made when they were working on LYL or a bootleg pressing of a leaked tape ?

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Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: BlueTurns2Grey ()
Date: March 18, 2021 20:21

Quote
gotdablouse
Does anyone know/recall the story of the "acetate" ? Is it an official acetate that was made when they were working on LYL or a bootleg pressing of a leaked tape ?

All I know is, that there must be minimum 3 sources for the known Mocambo tracks and of course the official LYL tracks.

1) The 7" iorr fan club single-ep with 3 tracks from the accetate & interviews. This must be around 1984, a few years before mp3's, internet streams and cd's started to rule the music world. So the owner of the accetate might also be an early iorr member.

2) The 30 min. sbd tape with a few songs and cuts from LSTNT and CM. Only a hand full of fans had it in 1984 and didn't share it. I was invited to have a listen, but didn't get a copy. These collectors have been trading with BW and others, so they had and surely still have a lot of rare stuff. It took many years, till I received a copy from other sources. You can hear two songs from that tape on Captain Acids 2020 Mocambo issue.

3) VGP 005 includes a complete version of LSTNT in lower quality, but so there must be another source with maybe more tracks.

That's not a lot, but end of my story.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-18 23:54 by BlueTurns2Grey.

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 18, 2021 23:32

Great info, thanks, some mystery remains then...are there any songs from that 30' sbd tape that haven't made it or are they on the acetate too ?

In any case it would be lovely to have an official release, much more interesting IMHO than all these recent shows with more or less the same songs (don't get me wrong it's fine when you're at a show) and waning skills (Keith mostly but he was the main engine), and they could probably spin a good story around Keith's busts, Margaret Trudeau, etc..."when the Stones were dangerous", etc...

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: March 29, 2021 22:42

Anyone got the 4LP Box (+2CD)? How is the quality?

Re: El Mocambo 1977 (9 sources)
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: March 29, 2021 22:49

Ah. Just found this.

Posted by: DoctorStone ()
Date: April 17, 2019 21:44

i don´t want to spoil the sale but: i used to* own this** box. i was very disappointed when i listened to it. somebody took the well known el-mocambo-tracks and added some other recordings of the 1976 tour. as a collector for 35 years, i guess those were taken from knebworth 1976. connesseurs will confirm that the sound reveals it. el mocambo tracks sound like el mocambo and the other tracks sound like "look at my face" (and other knebworth recordings). the source description in discogs is wrong (maybe taken from the wrong box description). at least, the tracks are mixed and not sorted by sides/faces!

since this experience, i am very careful with the rtr-boxes.

summing up, it is a nice box, nice colour vinyl, nice design. but not a collector´s item to listen to if you want to have more el mocambo - no unknwon el mocambo tracks included! sorry for telling the sad truth in this case.

i guess the stones will release the complete el mocambo 77 some day.

* sold a couple of weeks ago.
** the funny thing is that i owned #244 (of 700)* which also can be seen at discogsconfused smiley (not my [email protected]). which number is being offered here?

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