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STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: kissthestone ()
Date: February 20, 2009 12:28

"STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES" THE SWINGING PIG LABEL 2LP

For info & price email me privately kissthestone@yahoo.fr

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: February 20, 2009 13:22

Dou you have the tracklisting for this?
Thanks in advance

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: February 21, 2009 03:17

FAKE ALERT!!!!!

This is no Swingin' Pig product, in fact its the Swingin' Pig good reputation exploited by an unscrupulous bastard to make some quick bucks!!! Just a cash-in on the Pigs reputation - worthless.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-21 03:17 by alimente.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: February 21, 2009 03:31

good heads up, not that i would have bought it anyway

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: kissthestone ()
Date: March 1, 2009 07:05

SPECIAL POST FOR MISTER ALIMENTE

Before you post free and infamous insults inform you!OK
Real title 'Alternate Sticky Fingers' TSP RED WAX 2LP

kissthestone

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: March 1, 2009 15:11

And how much do you want for it? 200 euros? crazy...

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 1, 2009 16:06

"infamous" means "célèbre" in English, probably not wht you meant mate winking smiley

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: 123454321 ()
Date: March 1, 2009 16:14

Quote
dcba
"infamous" means "célèbre" in English, probably not wht you meant mate winking smiley

Why don´t you have a look in a dictionary before posting such a b...sh..

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 1, 2009 17:06

123454321 I suggest you stay out of this discussion paley: kissthestone is French and he obviously used some French words thinking (wrongly) they had the same meaning...

Mainetant dégage fils de pute winking smiley

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: 123454321 ()
Date: March 1, 2009 17:55

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dcba
123454321 I suggest you stay out of this discussion paley: kissthestone is French and he obviously used some French words thinking (wrongly) they had the same meaning...

Mainetant dégage fils de pute winking smiley

I know, that means "son of a b..." and I realy feel sorry for you!!!!

And I repeat it have a look in a dictionary "even if you are french too!!"

He was talking about infamous and not famous!!!

cul

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: March 2, 2009 13:19

Quote
kissthestone
SPECIAL POST FOR MISTER ALIMENTE

Before you post free and infamous insults inform you!OK
Real title 'Alternate Sticky Fingers' TSP RED WAX 2LP

kissthestone



again: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TSP-SWINGIN' PIG!!!!


kissthestone, its better that YOU inform yourself because you sell something under a banner that is absolutely BOGUS. sell it as "fake TSP" or the like, but dont fool people to make them think this 2LP set has anything to do with the original TSP label.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2009-03-02 13:53 by alimente.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: March 2, 2009 15:05

Quote
alimente
Quote
kissthestone
SPECIAL POST FOR MISTER ALIMENTE

Before you post free and infamous insults inform you!OK
Real title 'Alternate Sticky Fingers' TSP RED WAX 2LP

kissthestone



again: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TSP-SWINGIN' PIG!!!!


kissthestone, its better that YOU inform yourself because you sell something under a banner that is absolutely BOGUS. sell it as "fake TSP" or the like, but dont fool people to make them think this 2LP set has anything to do with the original TSP label.

It may be to the buyers to inform themselves about the stuff they are seeking...
It is very easy to know it is not a genuine TSP release.
[www.theswinginpig.net]

Only ignorants would buy this thing...

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: James_S777 ()
Date: March 2, 2009 21:15

Swingin Pig or not Swingin Pig.

Does anyone know what sources were used for this double LP?

I.e., were good old analog tapes used?? Unusual, but you never know, I have an EVSR which is a mix of digi and analog sources.
Or, were the old 44.1/16 digital sources used. These have been around quite a while.

Has anyone heard this record? Does anyone know how it sounds?
Which is the main thing, after all.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: March 2, 2009 21:21

Quote
mitch
Quote
alimente
Quote
kissthestone
SPECIAL POST FOR MISTER ALIMENTE

Before you post free and infamous insults inform you!OK
Real title 'Alternate Sticky Fingers' TSP RED WAX 2LP

kissthestone



again: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TSP-SWINGIN' PIG!!!!


kissthestone, its better that YOU inform yourself because you sell something under a banner that is absolutely BOGUS. sell it as "fake TSP" or the like, but dont fool people to make them think this 2LP set has anything to do with the original TSP label.

It may be to the buyers to inform themselves about the stuff they are seeking...
It is very easy to know it is not a genuine TSP release.
[www.theswinginpig.net]

Only ignorants would buy this thing...

theswinginpig.net has not been updated for a long while...thera are a few new releases from TSP on the market...and there is a "sticky fingers outtakes" as well as a "exile" outtakes that has been released recently.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: March 2, 2009 21:30

Quote
JumpinJeppeFlash
Quote
mitch
Quote
alimente
Quote
kissthestone
SPECIAL POST FOR MISTER ALIMENTE

Before you post free and infamous insults inform you!OK
Real title 'Alternate Sticky Fingers' TSP RED WAX 2LP

kissthestone



again: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TSP-SWINGIN' PIG!!!!


kissthestone, its better that YOU inform yourself because you sell something under a banner that is absolutely BOGUS. sell it as "fake TSP" or the like, but dont fool people to make them think this 2LP set has anything to do with the original TSP label.

It may be to the buyers to inform themselves about the stuff they are seeking...
It is very easy to know it is not a genuine TSP release.
[www.theswinginpig.net]

Only ignorants would buy this thing...

theswinginpig.net has not been updated for a long while...thera are a few new releases from TSP on the market...and there is a "sticky fingers outtakes" as well as a "exile" outtakes that has been released recently.

Ehmm, did you read alimente's and mitch's posts above, JumpinJeppe....? eye rolling smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-03-02 21:32 by Erik_Snow.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: March 2, 2009 21:48

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JumpinJeppeFlash
[theswinginpig.net has not been updated for a long while...thera are a few new releases from TSP on the market...and there is a "sticky fingers outtakes" as well as a "exile" outtakes that has been released recently.

theswinginpig.net is building up a discography of all titles released by TSP. theres also a section dealing with such bogus Pig releases which is by no means complete.

FOR THE RECORD:

The Swingin' Pig label stopped operation in late 1995 because starting with January 1, 1996 a new international copyright law closed the legal loophole for "legal" bootlegs.

since then, numerous CD and Vinyl releases claimed to be "Swingin' Pig" - but they arent. The Pig did not release a single title since 1996.

if you release a Stones bootleg and write Sony Music on the sleeve, it does not make this bootleg a real, genuine Sony Music bootleg - right?

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: James_S777 ()
Date: March 2, 2009 21:55

Gents,

Has anyone out there heard / listened to this one?

Is it any good??

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: March 2, 2009 22:03

I will get it tomorrow...

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: March 2, 2009 22:33

Quote
James_S777
Gents,

Has anyone out there heard / listened to this one?

Is it any good??

This new fake Swingin Pig, as well as other new LP bootlegs, copies the most known/best (somewhat) recent bootleg material - and present them in deluxe packaging.
For instance the Time Trip 5 material; the Ladies & Gentlemen soundtrack, the "Stripped Companion"..... there's nothing new on these LPs...it's just a collectors item - for those who care about such

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: March 2, 2009 22:42

How do you or anyone else here for sure know that this is a fake TSP release?

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: March 2, 2009 23:27

Quote
JumpinJeppeFlash
How do you or anyone else here for sure know that this is a fake TSP release?

because I know the guy who was behind Swingin' Pig for ages.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: March 2, 2009 23:36

Well, i can say that as well,,,and my friend knows the guys behind rolls royce label crystal cat...that means that all of my new TSP Lps that i bought the last couple of years should be fake according to you? I don´t believe that...

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: March 2, 2009 23:46

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JumpinJeppeFlash
Well, i can say that as well,,,and my friend knows the guys behind rolls royce label crystal cat...that means that all of my new TSP Lps that i bought the last couple of years should be fake according to you? I don´t believe that...


Listen, believe it or not. I have no reason for lying. I know what I know, and a) I know this guy since ages and
b) as a Swingin' Pig completist collector I know my stuff because reason a) and I cant stand this shit that other people release stuff and exploit the Pigs good name as a selling point.

Again: I have absolutely no reason for betraying you by telling you lies.

These fake Pig producers have a good reason for betraying you - they want your money.

I care a shit about about your money.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: March 2, 2009 23:50

Ok, so the only authentic TSP boots is the ones on tsp.net?

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: March 2, 2009 23:56

One last thing:

Post a list here of TSP vinyl you bought "the last couple of years" and I can tell you if they are genuine Pig releases or fake Pig titles.

Any "new" Pig titles - may it be CD or vinyl - released after December 31, 1996 is "fake" Pig. However, its possible that you have bought a Pig title which was actually manufactured in 1992 just recently. So you see, the time when you bought the stuff is not important, it depends on when the titles were released.

However, titles like Sticky Fingers outtakes or Exile Outtakes were never released by the original Pig label, not on CD, not on vinyl.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: March 2, 2009 23:59

Quote
JumpinJeppeFlash
Ok, so the only authentic TSP boots is the ones on tsp.net?

yes

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: James_S777 ()
Date: March 3, 2009 12:10

Quote
Erik_Snow
Quote
James_S777
Gents,

Has anyone out there heard / listened to this one?

Is it any good??

This new fake Swingin Pig, as well as other new LP bootlegs, copies the most known/best (somewhat) recent bootleg material - and present them in deluxe packaging.
For instance the Time Trip 5 material; the Ladies & Gentlemen soundtrack, the "Stripped Companion"..... there's nothing new on these LPs...it's just a collectors item - for those who care about such

Well, the packaging certainly is nice. The real zipper, the artwork, the double LP sleeves inside.
I went for this one, it only cost EUR 55 from my friendly boot dealer in Germany. I will clean it though before I play it. Cleaning removes - usually - any pops and clicks. Unless the vinyl is really crap. Looking at it though, it looks like a nice 160g or so clean vinyl pressing, with decent vinyl. Much better than other bootlegs I have.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: March 3, 2009 14:05

55 euros?

You could have bought some nice genuine bootleg with original stuff on it with that amount.
We are not talking about collecting anymore, but accumulating...

Just my 2 cents point of view.

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: March 3, 2009 14:59

Quote
alimente

These fake Pig producers have a good reason for betraying you - they want your money.

Thank god the old pig was in it for charity!

Re: STICKY FINGERS OUTTAKES The Swinging Pig 2LP For Sale
Posted by: James_S777 ()
Date: March 3, 2009 16:08

Quote
mitch
55 euros?

You could have bought some nice genuine bootleg with original stuff on it with that amount.
We are not talking about collecting anymore, but accumulating...

Just my 2 cents point of view.

From the track listing, it has some stuff I don't think I have. At least not on vinyl. I have a small collection of old vinyl bootlegs, including the Trident Mixes, Gravestones and Rape of the Vaults, Taxile and so forth.
The best of the CDs was the Black Box millenium set and Stripped companion. A lot of the stuff on the Black Box set has better sound quality than the ABKCO official releases.

It would be fascinating to know who is producing these particular bootlegs and what sources he is using.
I have EVSR "Windmill Sessions" on LP. The Jagger stuff on that is thin, two dimensional digital sound. However, Keith sings 3 songs on that one. All wide, deep three dimensional analogue tape sound. A huge difference.

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