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stonesrule
Stu was a Scot...not a Cockney, And not exactly accurate to say it was Stu who "chose" Leavell.
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ohnonotyouagain
Did Chuck play on the Steel Wheels tour? For some reason I was thinking Matt Clifford was the only keyboardist then.
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Elastic
CHuck is a sideman, right? Am I missing something?......
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CHuck is a sideman, right? Am I missing something?......
Yes. His point, apparently.
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CHuck is a sideman, right? Am I missing something?......
Yes. His point, apparently.
Yes, and we all have to face the fact that the Stones seem to regard him in the same league as Bobbby Keys nowadays. quote]
..which is pretty reasonable considering Bobby's only really an occasional sax player, almost certainly doesnt make any contribution to song suggestions and isnt employed as a musical director
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CHuck is a sideman, right? Am I missing something?......
Yes. His point, apparently.
Yes, and we all have to face the fact that the Stones seem to regard him in the same league as Bobbby Keys nowadays. quote]
..which is pretty reasonable considering Bobby's only really an occasional sax player, almost certainly doesnt make any contribution to song suggestions and isnt employed as a musical director
Right, to be precise: We all have to face the fact that the Stones seem to trust Chuck more than Bobby Keys as they give him a responsibility not yet given to any non-group-member before. Plus: We all have to face the fact that we as fans must regard Chuck to be in the in the same league as Bobby Keys, nowadays.
Let's open a threat and vote on Contributions Of Side(wo)men, like:
Lisa duetting with Mick on Monkey Man
Bobby solo on CYHMK
Chuck for turning HTW from a Blues into a Boogie
John Paul Jones string arrangement on She's A Rainbow or the like
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Jack Knife
Mick Jagger killed the Rolling Stones in 1973. Its been his back-up band ever since. ALL of them. He's no better than Rod Stewart. He keeps Keith and the name for financial reasons only. He certainly no longer has any loyalty, originality, song-writing skills nor does he care about any musical or creative legacy other than what they accrued pre-1973.
THREE studio albums in eighteen years. At least he realises he's creatively spent. Who knows how it would have been if he'd allowed Keith, Ronnie, Charlie and Bill to have a hand in the Rolling Stones. Instead we got "Anybody Seen My Baby" and "Streets Of Love." What an egomaniacal jerk.
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DandelionPowderman
<Did Charlie ever look like a rock star?>
The ultimate rock star, imo.
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turd
In my local town, 25 people came to the local cinema to see SAL. Mamma Mia ran for a week - sold out every night. I think that says something of the Great British public's perception of the Rolling Stones.
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CHuck is a sideman, right? Am I missing something?......
Yes. His point, apparently.
Yes, and we all have to face the fact that the Stones seem to regard him in the same league as Bobbby Keys nowadays. quote]
..which is pretty reasonable considering Bobby's only really an occasional sax player, almost certainly doesnt make any contribution to song suggestions and isnt employed as a musical director
Right, to be precise: We all have to face the fact that the Stones seem to trust Chuck more than Bobby Keys as they give him a responsibility not yet given to any non-group-member before. Plus: We all have to face the fact that we as fans must regard Chuck to be in the in the same league as Bobby Keys, nowadays.
What exactly has Bobby done thats made him such an indispensable and vital cog in the Stones machine to some people - playing an iconic sax solo on one or two of their biggest hits isnt really THAT big a deal. They managed without him for well over a decade after he let them down in mid tour in 1973. I like the guy and he's a fine musician, but he's no more or less important than most of the other backing musicians. He's never been anything more than a bit part player. It seems that his elevation is based on the fact that he's been there for a long time.
the idea that someone who's onstage for a third of a show should be deemed as important to the band's sound as someone theyve chosen to be their musical director is a bit odd to me. If the Stones have given Chuck that role, its their decision and no one elses, so the buck stops with them if fans have a problem with it, as they seem to feel that Keith cant hack that role anymore.