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I don't hate anyone, but Springsteen is one of those people who brings out the extremes in people (a bit like Led Zeppelin, The Smiths & Marmite!).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 17:24 by Sleepy City.
Some sense in this thread at long last!!
Bruce is a 'topical' subject of conversation because he's the only major league (ie arena/stadium filling) rock act who's touring at the minute in what is a 'dead' period for Stones news. Hence a lot of fans who would like both acts are going to see him - and theres the obvious flip side of this which is the reaction of some who cant deal with any 'competition' (and its not meant to be a 'competition' really and shouldnt be to anyone with a mental age of more than 8) getting any attention that may be favourable.
The same applies when U2 or McCartney are on tour and also applied when Zeppelin did their reunion show. When those acts tour at the same time as there's a Stones tour, there's less of the angst.
The Beatles are in a different and unique category altogether because there's a sizeable proportion of the Stones fanbase who think it's 1964 and have some absurd notion that you cant possibly appreciate them both.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 18:33 by Gazza.
Gazza,I think you get the idea of "the original post" completely wrong.
It´s not dissing groups or artists for a lack of contribution or importance
to music history in one way or another,it´s only a subjective thing.
It´s not a contradiction at all mentioning a band or artist here in this context
with knowing very well at the same time about their/his/her "value" (musically
speaking).
Everyone easily could name some more examples,so what ?
It´s subjective,true or not true,who´s gonna judge ?
But throwing Muddy Waters into here,Gazza,well,you know,....
I dont think I've misunderstood it. I think other posters have turned it into an "artists I cant stand" poll.
The original thread title and the first post stating that those artists'"contributions" werent as significant as what they're made about to be is clear enough.
Overrated pretty much equates to "praise way beyond their musical contributions" as far as I can see.
I didn't say or imply I thought he was overrated.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 18:47 by Gazza.
and 
To clarify, The Beatles are one of my very favourite groups (especially their stuff up until 1966), & I have dozens of bootleg DVDs, CDs, etc. But I still thik they're extremely over-rated. Everytime a rare interview or home movie is found it becomes world-wide "news" for f*cks sake, & cr*p like 'All Together Now' & 'Mean Mr Mustard' are spoken about as if these are the greatest things ever written. They were also appalling live, with the Hollies & Cliff/The Shadows being far superior musicians (& often making better POP music too).
For the record, I wasnt actually placing you in the category I mentioned of Stones fans who cant grasp that one can like both acts..
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Happy24
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Date: July 30, 2008 17:19
I think it would be hard to find so many Springsteen-lovers and Springsteen-haters on any other forum 
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: July 30, 2008 17:23
Quote
Happy24
I think it would be hard to find so many Springsteen-lovers and Springsteen-haters on any other forum
I don't hate anyone, but Springsteen is one of those people who brings out the extremes in people (a bit like Led Zeppelin, The Smiths & Marmite!).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 17:24 by Sleepy City.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: July 30, 2008 17:34
Quote
Bingo
BV
Gazza
Stonesdoug
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Some sense in this thread at long last!!
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
jjflash73
()
Date: July 30, 2008 17:37
Aerosmith
Bruce Springsteen
Coldplay
Bruce Springsteen
Coldplay
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Hound Dog
()
Date: July 30, 2008 17:47
Kiss
U2
Any music that involves Pete Doherty
U2
Any music that involves Pete Doherty
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: July 30, 2008 17:55
1. Led Zeppelin
2. Coldplay
3. My Morning Jacket
2. Coldplay
3. My Morning Jacket
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
jamesfdouglas
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:10
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:31
Quote
Happy24
I think it would be hard to find so many Springsteen-lovers and Springsteen-haters on any other forum
Bruce is a 'topical' subject of conversation because he's the only major league (ie arena/stadium filling) rock act who's touring at the minute in what is a 'dead' period for Stones news. Hence a lot of fans who would like both acts are going to see him - and theres the obvious flip side of this which is the reaction of some who cant deal with any 'competition' (and its not meant to be a 'competition' really and shouldnt be to anyone with a mental age of more than 8) getting any attention that may be favourable.
The same applies when U2 or McCartney are on tour and also applied when Zeppelin did their reunion show. When those acts tour at the same time as there's a Stones tour, there's less of the angst.
The Beatles are in a different and unique category altogether because there's a sizeable proportion of the Stones fanbase who think it's 1964 and have some absurd notion that you cant possibly appreciate them both.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 18:33 by Gazza.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:38
Quote
Gazza
Gazza,I think you get the idea of "the original post" completely wrong.
It´s not dissing groups or artists for a lack of contribution or importance
to music history in one way or another,it´s only a subjective thing.
It´s not a contradiction at all mentioning a band or artist here in this context
with knowing very well at the same time about their/his/her "value" (musically
speaking).
Everyone easily could name some more examples,so what ?
It´s subjective,true or not true,who´s gonna judge ?
But throwing Muddy Waters into here,Gazza,well,you know,....
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Zack
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:39
1. Nirvana
2. Radiohead
3. Velvet Underground
Shame on all of you who said Beatles, Floyd, Springsteen or Doors. They rate.
Grateful Dead? Who rates them high?
2. Radiohead
3. Velvet Underground
Shame on all of you who said Beatles, Floyd, Springsteen or Doors. They rate.
Grateful Dead? Who rates them high?
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:42
Quote
shortfatfanny
Gazza,I think you get the idea of "the original post" completely wrong.
It´s not dissing groups or artists for a lack of contribution or importance
to music history in one way or another,it´s only a subjective thing.
I dont think I've misunderstood it. I think other posters have turned it into an "artists I cant stand" poll.
The original thread title and the first post stating that those artists'"contributions" werent as significant as what they're made about to be is clear enough.
Overrated pretty much equates to "praise way beyond their musical contributions" as far as I can see.
Quote
shortfatfanny
But throwing Muddy Waters into here,Gazza,well,you know,....
I didn't say or imply I thought he was overrated.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 18:47 by Gazza.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
jamesfdouglas
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:43
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: July 30, 2008 18:44
Sorry Gazza,technically a greenhorn I wrecked the quote,I have to do more
exercises...,but you know what I´m referring to...
exercises...,but you know what I´m referring to...
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Shawn20
()
Date: July 30, 2008 19:22
Beatles, Sinatra, Zep.......???????????? I didn't think you COULD over-rate these three.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: July 30, 2008 19:35
Springsteen (surprise, surprise)
Johnny Cougar Mellenhead
Any grunge band
Johnny Cougar Mellenhead
Any grunge band
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Shezeboss
()
Date: July 30, 2008 19:43
and Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
john nicholls
()
Date: July 30, 2008 19:54
Seems to me people call someone like Springsteen overrated yet he has a massive fanbase. I talk to friends at work about the Stones and they say they are overrated. Truth is most people could'nt name 3 or 4 songs from artists they don't like. I could'nt stand Tom Waits for years but finally I started to listen to his albums and really dig the guy. At the end of the day it's all down to personal taste.
john Nicholls
john Nicholls
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: July 30, 2008 19:58
Hey Gazza,
got your point of view,and you didn´t mention Muddy Waters to add to the
over-rating list,I know...
...but the "quoting" thing I really have to learn,I´ll never give up,
greetings
got your point of view,and you didn´t mention Muddy Waters to add to the
over-rating list,I know...
...but the "quoting" thing I really have to learn,I´ll never give up,
greetings
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: July 30, 2008 20:05
Quote
Gazza
The Beatles are in a different and unique category altogether because there's a sizeable proportion of the Stones fanbase who think it's 1964 and have some absurd notion that you cant possibly appreciate them both.
To clarify, The Beatles are one of my very favourite groups (especially their stuff up until 1966), & I have dozens of bootleg DVDs, CDs, etc. But I still thik they're extremely over-rated. Everytime a rare interview or home movie is found it becomes world-wide "news" for f*cks sake, & cr*p like 'All Together Now' & 'Mean Mr Mustard' are spoken about as if these are the greatest things ever written. They were also appalling live, with the Hollies & Cliff/The Shadows being far superior musicians (& often making better POP music too).
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: July 30, 2008 20:27
Quote
Sleepy CityQuote
Gazza
The Beatles are in a different and unique category altogether because there's a sizeable proportion of the Stones fanbase who think it's 1964 and have some absurd notion that you cant possibly appreciate them both.
To clarify, The Beatles are one of my very favourite groups (especially their stuff up until 1966), & I have dozens of bootleg DVDs, CDs, etc. But I still thik they're extremely over-rated. Everytime a rare interview or home movie is found it becomes world-wide "news" for f*cks sake, & cr*p like 'All Together Now' & 'Mean Mr Mustard' are spoken about as if these are the greatest things ever written. They were also appalling live, with the Hollies & Cliff/The Shadows being far superior musicians (& often making better POP music too).
For the record, I wasnt actually placing you in the category I mentioned of Stones fans who cant grasp that one can like both acts..
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Happy Jack
()
Date: July 30, 2008 20:37
1. Led Zeppelin
2. Nirvana
3. The Doors
Runners up: Janis Joplin, The Beatles (from 1968-on), Jimi Hendrix
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 20:38 by Happy Jack.
2. Nirvana
3. The Doors
Runners up: Janis Joplin, The Beatles (from 1968-on), Jimi Hendrix
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-30 20:38 by Happy Jack.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
its good to be anywhere
()
Date: July 30, 2008 21:00
1.Springsteen
2. Eagles
3. U2
2. Eagles
3. U2
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
boston2006
()
Date: July 31, 2008 02:11
Yeah , we'll see how much you allagree that Zepplin is overated when they tour again . They were fabulous !
And how can anybody really in their right mind ever think about mentioning The Beatles as over rated ?
And how can anybody really in their right mind ever think about mentioning The Beatles as over rated ?
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: July 31, 2008 04:03
Yeah some strange choices here. How can anyone call Springsteen, Dylan, Sinatra or The Beatles the most overrated? Even if you think they are slightly overrated they are certainly not the most overrated. You have to find artists/bands that have a following that is way out of proportion to what they have contributed music wise to find the most overrated and you can start with Bon Jovi since he has a fairly large following as is evident by my musically blind sister and her husband when they played about five Bon Jovi songs at their wedding last week. You can also include U2 IMO. They have contributed SOME good music over the years but their following is even bigger than Bon Jovi. I would also include Nirvanna as my third.
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It gets worse, the older that you get. No escape from the state of confusion I'm in.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: July 31, 2008 04:21
Nirvana
Sex Pistols
CSNY
"No Anchovies, Please"
Sex Pistols
CSNY
"No Anchovies, Please"
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
stonesriff
()
Date: July 31, 2008 04:55
You cant be serious. Led Zep, The Beatles, Springsteen.....overated????????
Springsteen....the man brings it night after night. Selling out stadiums. Around the world. Not just in Jersey. Plays several different instruments, writes his own material. Not just pop bullshit either.
Led Zep.....Great Drummer, One of the greatest studio guitarist ever. Great bass player. Great front man.
The Beatles....Do i need to respond to this
Please dont take this the wrong way...but you are an idiot!!
Springsteen....the man brings it night after night. Selling out stadiums. Around the world. Not just in Jersey. Plays several different instruments, writes his own material. Not just pop bullshit either.
Led Zep.....Great Drummer, One of the greatest studio guitarist ever. Great bass player. Great front man.
The Beatles....Do i need to respond to this
Please dont take this the wrong way...but you are an idiot!!
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: July 31, 2008 06:05
Quote
Baboon Bro
Ya are an eager, thread starter, Sleepy. Watch out for the "He might be
a troll"-stigma.
My 50c are as controversial as yours:
(Here)
1. Zepp'lin
2. Who
3. The Boss
Close 4th Pink Floyd (after ca '7
1.Hungarian heavy metal
2.Thin Lizzy
3.Everybody else
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
mckalk
()
Date: July 31, 2008 06:58
Springsteen
Bruce
Springsteen
Just could never relate to the "Jersey boy/common man" theme and then what the hell was "Nebraska" about? Now he thinks he's a latter day Woody Guthrie. I did not think his music rang true once he become huge. Sorry, just never got Bruuuuce!
PS..and I met him once when I worked in a record store (Darkness Tour). Very nice guy, my boss made me go by him a Heineken.
Bruce
Springsteen
Just could never relate to the "Jersey boy/common man" theme and then what the hell was "Nebraska" about? Now he thinks he's a latter day Woody Guthrie. I did not think his music rang true once he become huge. Sorry, just never got Bruuuuce!
PS..and I met him once when I worked in a record store (Darkness Tour). Very nice guy, my boss made me go by him a Heineken.
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
SonnyBoythe3rd
()
Date: July 31, 2008 11:43
Grateful Dead
Doors
Radiohead
Doors
Radiohead
Re: OT: Who are the three most over-rated artists / groups?
Posted by:
Baboon Bro
()
Date: July 31, 2008 14:16
Quote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
Baboon Bro
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1.Hungarian heavy metal
2.Thin Lizzy
3.Everybody else
Donnow nuthin''bout Hungarometal; I'm in for the heavy, vintage stuff.
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