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Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: July 18, 2008 23:32

Inside what?

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: July 18, 2008 23:37

Quote
ablett
Inside what?

Cider, he's into cider ...smiling bouncing smiley

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: CindyC ()
Date: July 18, 2008 23:40

Quote
bumbum
"Can you please provide more details?"
What kind of detalis do you want - my insider information knows everything.... yawning smiley))



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-19 02:13 by CindyC.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: July 18, 2008 23:48

Run outta Viagra?

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: July 19, 2008 00:09

what a success Ronnie. almost 25.000 views and 17 pages...

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: July 19, 2008 00:09

Turd,

You have brought the most sensible opinion and truth to this awful situation.
I publicly applaud you.

God Bless Ronnie Wood.

Kurt

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: 1cdog ()
Date: July 19, 2008 00:13

I wish Ronnie the best.

Alcoholism is a tragedy for the afflicted and anyone associated with that person.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-19 00:42 by 1cdog.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Date: July 19, 2008 00:40

Was she from Russia or Kazahkstan?

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Date: July 19, 2008 01:11

Good luck Ronnie! Hopefully he will overcome his issues.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: July 19, 2008 01:40

If there was an IORR Hall of Fame for posts, Turd On The Run's would be an automatic choice for induction. Hits the nail on the head perfectly. Third paragraph especially.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: July 19, 2008 01:48

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Was she from Russia or Kazahkstan?

Moscow must have moved to Kazahkstan, according to the tabloids^^

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: audun-eg ()
Date: July 19, 2008 01:48

Quote
Gazza
If there was an IORR Hall of Fame for posts, Turd On The Run's would be an automatic choice for induction. Hits the nail on the head perfectly. Third paragraph especially.

+1

[www.reverbnation.com]

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: July 19, 2008 03:17

excellent post turd, ronnie is one of the most loyal mates in rock history

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 19, 2008 12:05

Quote
terraplane
Ronnie's just practicing the ancient art of heaving. In all seriousness, he is a nice guy (reputedly). Hope he gets well.

Anyone remembers this one?
I think Ron Wood does..tongue sticking out smiley




Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: July 19, 2008 14:15

oh dear, all those dramatic "they're going through hell" comments. come on! of course it's not an easy situation for the family, but i can think of a thousand things to happen that are a lot worse.
i personaly work with (alcohol and drug) addicted people for almost ten years, and i know that they often use their addiction as an excuse for their misbehaviour. he didnt start this affair with that girl because he was drinking too much. this explanation is by far too easy and a bit naiv. let's face it: he was drinking again AND he had an affair! that thing with this girl didnt just happen to a complete defenceless poor, little ronnie. he's a grown up man and it was also his choice. he's not a victim!
just to make it clear: i love ronnie for what he contributed to the stones and he seems to be a very charming and funny guy. but that doesnt save him from doing rather emberassing things...
he will be fine. all the best!

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: July 19, 2008 16:17

Quote
Turd On The Run
I know from personal experience how heartbreaking, frightening, unsettling, destabilizing and downright frustrating it is to live with a person vulnerable to alcohol. It is an insidious weakness and a grotesque, almost inexplicable disease. It is like living next to a ticking time bomb. No matter how long it has been since the last relapse...no matter how rational and happy and diligent they have been you're never more than a flash moment away from the next disaster. As much as you may love the person, there are times when you literally want to strangle the life out of them and be done with the long drawn-out tragedy. Ronnie's family must be going through hell...not to mention the humiliation of going through this in public. The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.

I've sometimes been very critical of Ronnie's playing and unprofessional conduct - and I've not always been a big fan of his musicianship. I've been to several Stones concerts in the last 33 years where Ronnie played hardly a significant note, some where he utterly ruined several songs (a gig in Cologne in 2006 comes to mind), and others where his mediocrity was utterly dispiriting. But I've been to others where he was firing on all cylinders (some shows in 1975 and 1978) and was on fire, and others where he was excellent and literally saved the night...including several concerts during summer 2007 where if it not for Ronnie's steady hand the Stones would have been a complete train wreck. I was disappointed that he did not contribute more to ABB...also as a consequence of his demon bouts...yet at other times he was right there on the front lines. Through it all - the ups and the downs - he's been a true Stone.

Yes, he is unstable...and exasperating...and also very lovable. Never mind all that. The fact is that we all owe him a HUGE debt of gratitude for all he has done for the band in the last 3 decades. Without Mr. Wood's mitigating presence and loyal friendship the chances of the Stones having survived their fallouts would have been very doubtful to nil. For this alone he is a hero. He may not have created an musical imprint as profound as Brian Jones, and his recorded output and live playing may not have the brilliance of Mick Taylor's...but he's been a loyal trouper, an occasionally excellent musician, and a soul-brother. The truth is he has pulled their nuts from the fire more than several times. Let's stand by him and his family in his time of need - there is no need to tastelessly contemplate on his "replacement" when he is down and out - showing our loyalty to Ronnie and respect for his family at this moment is the least we can do for a guy who has given so much of himself for the band.

I hope he gets it together and becomes once again a crucial creative element in new Stones music...and I'm looking forward to seeing him live again, standing where he belongs...with his band, stage right, grimacing as he snaps stinging notes from his guitar - hopefully from some hot new songs - and powering the Stones through another night of thrills and spills. Get well, Ronnie!

Post of the bloody week/month/year and eternity. You nailed it !

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Harm ()
Date: July 19, 2008 16:24

One of many great "Turd on the run" posts

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 19, 2008 16:35

The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: July 19, 2008 16:48

Quote
Amsterdamned
The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

<<< Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living >>>

Tell me about it ... I've temporarily sold my soul to the devil (as a sub-contractor) in order to raise the funds for the next (hopefully) Rolling Stones summer extravaganza; the devil in this case being an 'orribly large, very well known, purveyor of "petroleum products". Say no more ! We all do it in one way or another, they do say that everyone has "their price".

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: CindyC ()
Date: July 19, 2008 16:51

good point, for some girls that price is just taking them out to dinner.

It makes for a great first date. (not that I would know)

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 19, 2008 17:22

Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

<<< Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living >>>

Tell me about it ...

You gave the answer already,but to call somebody you don't know a slut?

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: July 19, 2008 19:00

Quote
Amsterdamned
Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

<<< Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living >>>

Tell me about it ...

You gave the answer already,but to call somebody you don't know a slut?

Er ... I've lost you. I'm not calling "her" a slut, I'm not calling her anything at all. I merely responded to your observation that everybody is a bit of a hooker in their own way in order to make a living, by saying that yes indeed I was too, because as much as I despise large oil companies, I'm currently working for one because they pay me bloody well to do so.

What the f*** has THAT got to do with the "slavic slut" ? (YOUR term for her, not MINE)

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 19, 2008 19:36

Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

<<< Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living >>>

Tell me about it ...

You gave the answer already,but to call somebody you don't know a slut?

Er ... I've lost you. I'm not calling "her" a slut, I'm not calling her anything at all. I merely responded to your observation that everybody is a bit of a hooker in their own way in order to make a living, by saying that yes indeed I was too, because as much as I despise large oil companies, I'm currently working for one because they pay me bloody well to do so.

What the f*** has THAT got to do with the "slavic slut" ? (YOUR term for her, not MINE)


I'am terribly sorry,

I was talking to Turd on the run.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: July 19, 2008 19:44

Quote
Amsterdamned
Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

<<< Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living >>>

Tell me about it ...

You gave the answer already,but to call somebody you don't know a slut?

Er ... I've lost you. I'm not calling "her" a slut, I'm not calling her anything at all. I merely responded to your observation that everybody is a bit of a hooker in their own way in order to make a living, by saying that yes indeed I was too, because as much as I despise large oil companies, I'm currently working for one because they pay me bloody well to do so.

What the f*** has THAT got to do with the "slavic slut" ? (YOUR term for her, not MINE)


I'am terribly sorry,

I was talking to Turd on the run.

Aha ... well that would explain it. My misunderstanding too in that case, pls accept my apologies.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: July 19, 2008 20:03

Quote
Amsterdamned
Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
Quote
paulywaul
Quote
Amsterdamned
The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.[Paulywaul]

A bit cheap to call her a Slavic Slut 'model'.
Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living.

<<< Everybody is a bit of hooker in his or her's own way to make a living >>>

Tell me about it ...

You gave the answer already,but to call somebody you don't know a slut?

Er ... I've lost you. I'm not calling "her" a slut, I'm not calling her anything at all. I merely responded to your observation that everybody is a bit of a hooker in their own way in order to make a living, by saying that yes indeed I was too, because as much as I despise large oil companies, I'm currently working for one because they pay me bloody well to do so.

What the f*** has THAT got to do with the "slavic slut" ? (YOUR term for her, not MINE)


I'am terribly sorry,

I was talking to Turd on the run.

So.....who called her a slut first?? Amsterdamned or Turd?
If Amsterdamned said it first...the accusation
doesn't make sense (unless Amsterdamned knows the 'slavic slut" )

??? just wondering. I didn't see anything in Turd's post.
(Unless you're talking about something on a previous page...too much to read)

*oh..i guess turd's original post was from a few pages back. originally
thought Turd was quoting Amsterdamned. ugh.


IORR............but I like it!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-19 20:06 by sweet neo con.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Rich66 ()
Date: July 20, 2008 06:21

He's an alcoholic. These things happen. All he can do
is dust himself off and try again.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: angee ()
Date: July 20, 2008 08:57

Let me join the chorus of affirmative nods to Turd!
Beautiful post, captures the whole.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 20, 2008 11:24

So.....who called her a slut first?? Amsterdamned or Turd?
If Amsterdamned said it first...the accusation
doesn't make sense (unless Amsterdamned knows the 'slavic slut" )[sweet neo con]





Ronnie's family must be going through hell...not to mention the humiliation of going through this in public. The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake....etc etc.[turd on the run]






I did not call her a slut, "turd on the run" did on this very page.
I do no several but not this girl.

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: July 20, 2008 13:57

Quote
Amsterdamned


Ronnie's family must be going through hell...

as i already said: "going through hell" means something entirely different (to me)...
ronnie knew exactly what he was doing. it was his choice!
and now of course: she "the calculating slut", is to blame...come on.
i love ronnie for his guitarplaying, and for keeping the band together. but defending him for that recent action is as weird as accusing him for what he has done. i personaly think it was very selfish, egoistic and rather emberassing, but it's none of my business and it doesnt take away my respect for his musical work!
lets wish everybody who's involved all the best! peace!

Re: Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie
Posted by: Addicted ()
Date: July 20, 2008 14:03

Quote
Turd On The Run
I know from personal experience how heartbreaking, frightening, unsettling, destabilizing and downright frustrating it is to live with a person vulnerable to alcohol. It is an insidious weakness and a grotesque, almost inexplicable disease. It is like living next to a ticking time bomb. No matter how long it has been since the last relapse...no matter how rational and happy and diligent they have been you're never more than a flash moment away from the next disaster. As much as you may love the person, there are times when you literally want to strangle the life out of them and be done with the long drawn-out tragedy. Ronnie's family must be going through hell...not to mention the humiliation of going through this in public. The Slavic Slut 'model' claiming true love is just further icing on the shite cake.

I've sometimes been very critical of Ronnie's playing and unprofessional conduct - and I've not always been a big fan of his musicianship. I've been to several Stones concerts in the last 33 years where Ronnie played hardly a significant note, some where he utterly ruined several songs (a gig in Cologne in 2006 comes to mind), and others where his mediocrity was utterly dispiriting. But I've been to others where he was firing on all cylinders (some shows in 1975 and 1978) and was on fire, and others where he was excellent and literally saved the night...including several concerts during summer 2007 where if it not for Ronnie's steady hand the Stones would have been a complete train wreck. I was disappointed that he did not contribute more to ABB...also as a consequence of his demon bouts...yet at other times he was right there on the front lines. Through it all - the ups and the downs - he's been a true Stone.

Yes, he is unstable...and exasperating...and also very lovable. Never mind all that. The fact is that we all owe him a HUGE debt of gratitude for all he has done for the band in the last 3 decades. Without Mr. Wood's mitigating presence and loyal friendship the chances of the Stones having survived their fallouts would have been very doubtful to nil. For this alone he is a hero. He may not have created an musical imprint as profound as Brian Jones, and his recorded output and live playing may not have the brilliance of Mick Taylor's...but he's been a loyal trouper, an occasionally excellent musician, and a soul-brother. The truth is he has pulled their nuts from the fire more than several times. Let's stand by him and his family in his time of need - there is no need to tastelessly contemplate on his "replacement" when he is down and out - showing our loyalty to Ronnie and respect for his family at this moment is the least we can do for a guy who has given so much of himself for the band.

I hope he gets it together and becomes once again a crucial creative element in new Stones music...and I'm looking forward to seeing him live again, standing where he belongs...with his band, stage right, grimacing as he snaps stinging notes from his guitar - hopefully from some hot new songs - and powering the Stones through another night of thrills and spills. Get well, Ronnie!

Thank you, Turd! Been away for a few days, and just read your post. This very much sums up how I feel. But you managed to put it down in writing. Very lovely. My favourite post in IORR, definitely.
Makes med forget all the evil, sarcastic posts with no heart, no soul, no nothing - just a drive to be mean and cruel.
You made my day! Very proud of you, Sir!

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