does anybody have these new Sister Morphine releases already? are they worth checking out? are they really noticable quality upgrades or just EQ tweaks of well known sources? any info appreciated.

Knowing Sister Morphine it'll probably be just tweaks of the known sources. Have they ever released anything new?

Yes, they/he were/was the first one with "Closer Than Close". But that's it.

the way she held the microphone is pretty good

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the way she held the microphone is pretty good

That's Coast2Coast, not Sister Morphine.
C2C actually came up with some real nice upgrades, most of them later copied by VGP. All of my C2C albums are "dead" now. THey won't play.
Sister Morphine just ruin allready existing sources, turning them in to lifeless and sterile listens. I don't know why they're so popular.
The 2nd show of July 25th 1972 is one of their few/only useful releases. Dogs&Cats released the same recording later on.

SM rehashes wellknown shit. Put in a little high, a little low and off you go!

The photo of Jagger on "Microphone" is from the Vancouver show.

Thinking of SM off the top of my head, more misses come to mind than hits. Its "Live'R" redo was a disaster IMO, very strident. The Leeds redo was pointless. The Exile Outtakes grabs your ears on first impression, then I ended up turning down the treble, turning down the bass, turning down the volume, then taking out the disc. It's clean, but hard on my ears.

I got loads of GREAT Cds from SM.

Hi everyone!

It is strange that as soon as SM releases a new CD the same complaints again! I have most of them and I find most very enjoyable. Exile outtakeas is excellent and the Paris 70 is the best I have ever heard from that tour (Berlin on VGP is good but not as good as this). Red Devils I have in several editions including Mick Boys remaster so I won´t get that one. Why complain as long as they for the most past are real up-grades!!

There was a time when the sister released new or unheard gems but I have no problem with their remasters if one does not already own them. So there is good and bad depending on how you look at it.

Can you please mention the setlist for Paris '70?

Thanks.

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Why complain as long as they for the most past are real up-grades!!

The problem is that the SM releases aren't real upgrades. They're like a whiskey which has been sweetened till it's a Liqueur...really nice the first second, but suddenly you can't even stand the smell of it.
A few of the SM CDRs are nice though...but not many



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Allmost anything they release is totally pointless. They rehash wellknown recordings. EQ them to claim it their own,and when you hear the result you want to go back to the original boot which sounds superiour.

Sister Morphine? Avoid.

Has anyone seen the Paris 1970 show torrented anywhere? I have never heard a 1970 boot that I thought was listenable (an enjoyable listen anyway). I would include Berlin as one that is rougher than I want to spend time with.

Thanks.

SM is so over hyped its ridiculous

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Can you please mention the setlist for Paris '70?

Thanks.

Tracklist and cover:

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I havent heard the 70 paris rmstr but its the same recording as VGs releases.

Have first two titles in your thread:

SWEET VIRGINIA (aka Hampton 1981) by SM is an improvement over the Dandelion box set that I previously owned. That Dandelion set, much like the Swinging Pig set has over-recorded bass. Here, the bass seems to be reduced while the treble is nicely enhanced providing excellent stereo separation. I did find that the first three tracks on DISC 1 were slightly too bright but after that it improves. Overall, I'd give it a 9/10.

EUROPEAN TOUR - PARIS 1970 is a hard one to rate since the source material is not that great. The SM title is probably an improvement over the VGP releases but still rates about 7/10 for a soundboard recording.

A previous poster indicated that he felt SM's version of " LIVER " from 1969 was poor. Well, here I would have to concur. The sound quality is a disappointment.

It's always easy to bash a label because in some countries you're able to find alternative choices. That's not the case everywhere. I have 16 SM titles, representing most of the key concerts, and for the most part, I consider them to be superior to most other available alternatives. For example. 1995 Tokyo, 1972 U.S. Tour, 1973 Brussels Belgium, 1998 Bremen Germany, 1990 Tokyo, 1971 Leeds, 1990 Urban Jungle, 1999 Oakland, 1995 South Africa and 1976 Paris are all excellent boots by SM.

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the best version I have of the 81 show is the Glimmer Twins release-I suspect it may have been sourced from the upgraded video source that appeared on 4 reels a while back. As I said earlier if you dont have these releases I dont think you'll be disapointed in the quality but it would be nice if the Good Sister would seek out some unreleased or rare sources.When the label first appeared in the late 90s there were many firsts(or hard to locate) releases!

Thanks a lot django.

I would also like to hear the Paris 70 one and what about the Dirty Work outtakes, anything NEW with that one?

My favorite is the Voodoo Mass & Fetishes compilation and the remastering of the SG outtakes is also great!!!

Could someone post or torrent Paris (European Tour 1970) from Sister Morphine, please?

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Why complain as long as they for the most past are real up-grades!!

The problem is that the SM releases aren't real upgrades. They're like a whiskey which has been sweetened till it's a Liqueur...really nice the first second, but suddenly you can't even stand the smell of it.
A few of the SM CDRs are nice though...but not many

HaHaHa
Great analogy!!!

Still laughing

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Has anyone seen the Paris 1970 show torrented anywhere? I have never heard a 1970 boot that I thought was listenable (an enjoyable listen anyway). I would include Berlin as one that is rougher than I want to spend time with.

Thanks.

I haven't heard the SM version, but I assume it's the same source, which is a rough mono soundboard. Listenable -- one of the best 3 or so from the tour and some find it the best. I actually prefer Berlin by a bit, and Essen, all things considered.

there's is a snippet of SFTD from Paris in 9/10 soundboard quality....much better than what can be found on any Paris 1970 disc.
I believe this snippet can be found on the legendary CD release "Shot of Salvation" ??

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there's is a snippet of SFTD from Paris in 9/10 soundboard quality....much better than what can be found on any Paris 1970 disc.
I believe this snippet can be found on the legendary CD release "Shot of Salvation" ??

I believe that's right...it's edited, but it's more than a snippet...i'm not sure about 9/10 (that's subjective), but it's a lot cleaner than any other version of that show (september 23).

Not to start a conspiracy theory, but is it Mick T's solo that's edited?

i think it's during Keith's?? I'd have to check....but yes, more than a snippet...roughly 4 mins?

"Sister Morphine" should have called themselves "Caveat Emptor"

Seriously I have seen tons of torrents of VGP CC DL/RS titles but I've NEVER seen a single torrent based on a SM "title" (except their S.F.'97 aud tape)
Nobody likes to be laughed at on Dime maybe...



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Hi everyone!

I don´t know how many times I have defended SM! I have most of their titles and most are really good! Hampton is very listenable and as many have notices better than SP version (Have it as well). I have most of DAC and VGP titles and as good as they are SM are really sometomes better. For exmple the Exile outtakes is with out doubt the best CD of these that their is! I hope that we will stop bashing SM in the future! Iy is really up the the fan to judge for him/herself!!

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Seriously I have seen tons of torrents of VGP CC DL/RS titles but I've NEVER seen a single torrent based on a SM "title" (except their S.F.'97 aud tape)
Nobody likes to be laughed at on Dime maybe...

There are three Sister Morphine titles currently torrented on dime. Just do a search with "Sister Morphine"

Anyone up for a snail mail trade of this version of Paris 9/23/70? I'll torrent it on rocksoff afterwards and we can all compare.