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Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 7, 2008 15:56

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-08-22 20:09 by UrbanSteel.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: cc ()
Date: April 7, 2008 18:07

a load of fifty-cent words, but some tough thoughts in there. I mainly agree.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 7, 2008 18:37

>> Charlie Watts, dandyish and self-contained, puffing his cheeks for the camera at the end of a song,
as if to indicate, “Well, thank God that’s over.” It is a rare hint, in a movie giddy with self-persuasion,
of someone not too elderly but simply too grown up <<

smile: i thought it was a fairly broad hint of Charlie being directed to "show some exhaustion",
especially since they got him to do it twice. they got some from Keith too, at the encore



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Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: April 7, 2008 20:47

Hey UrbanSteel...i love that image on the top of this page...i'd hang something like
that on my office wall...if scorsese was replaced with Charlie.
Of course...I'd want Darryl in it too. Is that image from the New Yorker?

re: charlie puffing his cheeks twice....i might be wrong but i thought
it was the same puff from 2 different angles...edited to show the second
angle after the first one. (???)

Can't wait for the dvd and all of its extras.


IORR............but I like it!

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Tate ()
Date: April 7, 2008 21:55

I usually enjoy the New Yorker's reviews, but this one is annoying. I agree with much of the criticism, but how could anyone seriously compare this film to a dramatic motion picture?

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: cbtaco19 ()
Date: April 7, 2008 23:40

Utter tosser, just a complete tosspot.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: April 7, 2008 23:47

Quite an erudite view I think. And a question to ponder -- Is what the Stones do art?

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: April 8, 2008 03:44

Well, when you don't know what it's called...it's art.

I think I've seen Charlie puff his cheeks out before. I don't see - it's funny but it's not a big deal. Playing the drums is exhausting.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 8, 2008 03:45

Some clever points he has, and I can quite easily grasp the criticism he says about the movie missing a "need" and the band "not making art of growing up". But what I don't like is clischeist portrait he offers of Keith, and personally I find the following sentence quite annoying:


"This would surely be news to Keith, for whom climate change is what happens when you open the fridge door."

For some reason, I don't find that even funny.

- Doxa

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: April 8, 2008 03:48

charlie is not in the header , whats with that

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: cc ()
Date: April 8, 2008 03:48

no, but the line about browsing the fretboard is pretty good.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 8, 2008 11:29

>> personally I find the following sentence quite annoying <<

the very erudite reviewer doesn't seem to be aware that Clinton
was referring to that NRD benefit concert in 03: [www.ew.com]
he/she has some interesting perceptions, though.

and yeah maybe it was the same Charlie Puff twice, but either way it was one of those
this is a movie moments for me. not "a big deal". it is a movie.



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Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Lady Jayne ()
Date: April 8, 2008 11:38

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cc
no, but the line about browsing the fretboard is pretty good.

"As for Keith Richards, he’s more like a tortoise than ever, unworldly-wise, dipping his graven face to browse fondly over his strings."

I do agree this is a great line.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: April 8, 2008 11:46

As for Keith Richards, he’s more like a tortoise than ever....

Hey that's hot news ....
We gonna get Keith recordings for another 190 years....WILD STUFF



Oldest Known Living Creature Dies in India



Addwaita, a 255-year-old Aldabra giant tortoise brought
to India in the 18th century, has died in a Calcutta Zoo.
.............................................2006



ROCKMAN

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Lady Jayne ()
Date: April 8, 2008 15:10

Quote
Rockman
As for Keith Richards, he’s more like a tortoise than ever....

Hey that's hot news ....
We gonna get Keith recordings for another 190 years....WILD STUFF



Addwaita, a 255-year-old Aldabra giant tortoise brought
to India in the 18th century, has died in a Calcutta Zoo.
.............................................2006

Yeah, but I heard Addwaita gave up the booze, dope and swinging in palm trees and ate a macrobiotic diet for the last 200 years.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: April 8, 2008 17:49

Quote
Doxa
Some clever points he has, and I can quite easily grasp the criticism he says about the movie missing a "need" and the band "not making art of growing up". But what I don't like is clischeist portrait he offers of Keith, and personally I find the following sentence quite annoying:


"This would surely be news to Keith, for whom climate change is what happens when you open the fridge door."

For some reason, I don't find that even funny.

- Doxa

I have read at least one interview where Keith talks knowledgeably and with genuine concern about environmental issues - the above isn't funny because this bloke hasn't done his homework and couldn't resist a cheap shot.

(But I do like the tortoise line!)

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: JMARKO ()
Date: April 8, 2008 20:18

His anti-Stones bias is a bit evident, and he takes some cheap 'age' shots for sure.

But I agree with a lot of what he says about Marty's editing.

This was all MTV and not enough Last Waltz.

The performances are great, but the editing leaves you little of a sense of the band performing as a unit. Not enough longer shots, too claustrophobic.

When I taught my seminar on rockumentaries, my students specifically noticed how in The Last Waltz you got these shots of the musicians that seemed to last forever, and you got a wonderful sense of watching them work, and a real intimate look at them onstage (in the case of The Band, you also got a real sense of how they were completely knackered from their work!).

There are flashes of that in SAL (not the knackered part) but not enough for it to really leave a strong enough impression.

J

P.S.: yeah, that reviewer totally missed the point of Charlie puffing his cheeks out -- it was after All Down The Line, a rather relentless beat.

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: April 9, 2008 00:32

Yes Jmarko. "major" point to quote my idol Posh Beckham.

Intimacy...moments of artistic lyricism....the bond between members of the band..their importance to the audience fans (not the models)..etc. etc.

Yes, it was MTV and trying to predict the marketplace. The cinematographers were the artists and Scorsese was one more name for the "package" and marketing generally.

It's the music BUSINESS and the movie BUSINESS.

I've done IMAX and want to see it in a "regular" theatre soon. Glad I went. More than I expected.

I do consider the Stones as true artists. The movie is worthwhile "product."

I miss the blues!!

Re: Not Fade Away "Shine A Light" ( The New Yorker )
Posted by: Jumpin'JackFrash ()
Date: April 9, 2008 04:55

I want to sew this guy up in a burlap sack, hit him with baseball bats, then light the bag on fire and roast marshmallows. Ignorance. I looked at a picture of him online - he's a @#$%& with his head so far up his ass he'll die without the atmosphere afforded to him by such an environment.



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