"LONDON - Hopes of a Led Zeppelin reunion tour faded on Friday - 12/14 - when singer Robert Plant said he would tour with US Country Singer Alison Krauss in May" The reporter, Jeremy Lovell, seems to think because Plant just posted this message on his Website that knocks out the idea of a Zep Tour for good. I personally don't get the logic that if Plant is busy with Krauss for 1 or 2 months he doesn't have time for a 2 or 3 month world tour with the Zep boys. Pick 20 to 30 cities around the world and tour for 3 months.

Hit Russia, Hit China, Hit Dubai, Hit Rio/Buenos Aires, make the whole world happy with one more dose of basic, solid Rock and Roll (along with The Stones of Course), show the kids how it's done (I mean, we gotta clean out some of these DREADFUL new bands that I see on Letterman and Leno all the time - total pretenders that just don't get it at all), and go out in style.

If Plant holds back it's HIS fault for not passing on the magic to the kids so true rock can live again and all this Las Vegas Floor Show sh*t can disappear. If you bump into him on the street or in a pub tell him he's got a job to do to keep the music alive, tell him Helter says WTF ROBERT? (that will get him scared and thinking !!!) He's 59, he can wrap this up before he turns 60 on August 20th, 2008 - GET ROCKIN' PLANT - STOP ACTING LIKE A BIG EFFING BABY !!! NOBODY'S FAULT BUT YOURS... SO True !!!!

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> "LONDON - Hopes of a Led Zeppelin reunion tour
> faded on Friday - 12/14 - when singer Robert Plant
> said he would tour with US Country Singer Alison
> Krauss in May" The reporter, Jeremy Lovell, seems
> to think because Plant just posted this message on
> his Website that knocks out the idea of a Zep Tour
> for good. I personally don't get the logic that if
> Plant is busy with Krauss for 1 or 2 months he
> doesn't have time for a 2 or 3 month world tour
> with the Zep boys. Pick 20 to 30 cities around the
> world and tour for 3 months.
>
> Hit Russia, Hit China, Hit Dubai, Hit Rio/Buenos
> Aires, make the whole world happy with one more
> dose of basic, solid Rock and Roll (along with The
> Stones of Course), show the kids how it's done (I
> mean, we gotta clean out some of these DREADFUL
> new bands that I see on Letterman and Leno all the
> time - total pretenders that just don't get it at
> all), and go out in style.
>
> If Plant holds back it's HIS fault for not passing
> on the magic to the kids so true rock can live
> again and all this Las Vegas Floor Show sh*t can
> disappear. If you bump into him on the street or
> in a pub tell him he's got a job to do to keep the
> music alive, tell him Helter says WTF ROBERT?
> (that will get him scared and thinking !!!) He's
> 59, he can wrap this up before he turns 60 on
> August 20th, 2008 - GET ROCKIN' PLANT - STOP
> ACTING LIKE A BIG EFFING BABY !!! NOBODY'S FAULT
> BUT YOURS... SO True !!!!



Doesn't sound like Robert Plant is the one acting like the baby - you might want to look in the mirror for that.

True rock is still alive just as it's always been. And the 02 bootleg didn't sound the least bit like "magic" to me.

in this moment we got 3 led zeppelin threads on the homepage of the forum,
I thought this was a rolling stones forum..

Mellow out Faraway - see the "OT" out front? .... Dan, NO CONCERT gets the kind of reviews the recent Zep concert recieved... I've seen the whole show on YouTube pieced together and they sounded pretty good to me, and that's from someone who saw them about 10 times from 1972 to 1977.... MAGIC ? well, it's more magical then most of the stupid bands on MTV these days (I mean the non rap ones they play at about 2 am)... anyway, you're listening to an audience recorded BOOTLEG, What do you expect?

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> Mellow out Faraway - see the "OT" out front? ....
> Dan, NO CONCERT gets the kind of reviews the
> recent Zep concert recieved...

Hype, maybe. Haven't bothered with the actual reviews.


>I've seen the whole
> show on YouTube pieced together and they sounded
> pretty good to me, and that's from someone who saw
> them about 10 times from 1972 to 1977.... MAGIC ?
> well, it's more magical then most of the stupid
> bands on MTV these days (I mean the non rap ones
> they play at about 2 am)...

sounds like you watch too much MTV, and thanks to admitting to being a geezer, usually magic and nostalgia is the same thing.


>anyway, you're
> listening to an audience recorded BOOTLEG, What do
> you expect?

It wasn't the quality of the recording to cause me to cringe when Robert first started on Good Times Bad Times.



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Geezer? I'll tell you what, I was able to live through the sixties (as a pre teen mind you) and watch the Woodstock kids stop a war by taking it to the streets and showing/telling the Government who owns the country..... Now we got sh*t a 100 times worse than the sixties going on as America slides into Third World land while the brain dead kids are oblivious to it all.... I'll take being a Geezer over a stupid ass teenie bopper internet zombie that doesn't have a CLUE about reality and who's heros are PARIS HILTON and BRITTANY SPEARS and rebellion means putting up a blog on a computer in their Parents basement (cause they can't hold on to a decent job and live on their own) - they're all bought and sold by big business and McDonalds...she-it, I'll take Geezer any day of the week, pass me a bed pan por favor - bahahahahahahaha

When you're a Geezer what are you gonna look back on? SPICE GIRLS and BRAD PITT? might as well pull the trigger now my friend - lol

Well, I have to admit, I'm a geezer.

Here is this geezer's bold prediction:

Led Zeppelin will play live again.
It may not be a full blown tour,
but they WILL play a few more shows.
Perhaps only in the largest of markets,
which means this geezer will travel.

Did LZ have any hidden musicians playing or any prerecorded music playing at the o2 show?

... Real serious 50 something "air guitarist" in the third row, Jimmy's side.... that's the only one I saw......

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> Geezer? I'll tell you what, I was able to live
> through the sixties (as a pre teen mind you) and
> watch the Woodstock kids stop a war by taking it
> to the streets and showing/telling the Government
> who owns the country..... Now we got sh*t a 100
> times worse than the sixties going on as America
> slides into Third World land while the brain dead
> kids are oblivious to it all....

Yep. helluva lotta good that did.


>I'll take being a
> Geezer over a stupid ass teenie bopper internet
> zombie that doesn't have a CLUE about reality and
> who's heros are PARIS HILTON and BRITTANY SPEARS
> and rebellion means putting up a blog on a
> computer in their Parents basement (cause they
> can't hold on to a decent job and live on their
> own) - they're all bought and sold by big business
> and McDonalds...she-it, I'll take Geezer any day
> of the week, pass me a bed pan por favor -
> bahahahahahahaha
>
> When you're a Geezer what are you gonna look back
> on? SPICE GIRLS and BRAD PITT? might as well pull
> the trigger now my friend - lol


I have about 800 live shows to look back on of all types, and many more to look forward to. When it's all said and done it's nice to know there are those like Robert Plant, David Gilmour or Paul Weller who would rather maintain some artistic integrity and continue to be creative rather than resign themselves to regurgitating people's 30-40 year old memories back to them.

The difference between Led Zeppelin in 1973 and 2008 is that in 2008 it won't be about the music.

I think I'd honestly be happy enough to watch a DVD of the O2 show. I'm a LZ fan, but also a fan of Robert Plant's most recent few solo albums, and a smattering of his older solo stuff. I agree with Dan, I'd like to see Robert continue with his creative side rather than the LZ stuff. I've been thinking on it a bit over the past couple of weeks, whether I'd pay $$ to see a LZ show in '08... I think I probably would, but I'd rather see Plant produce more creative and interesting music in the vein of his recent solo material and the collaboration with AK. Maybe he'll do both. But put it this way... Would I rather pay $50 to see Plant in concert with AK , playing some innovative arrangements of new and old songs than pay $250 to see "LZ mach II" ? Maybe.

Honestly, we may never see LZ live again, even on DVD... I think the sound on those YouTube clips is way too muddy to determine how stellar the show was musically, vocally, and especially-- Bonham-wise. A clean, crisp recording of the O2 show might reveal some serious disappointments.

WHOA, David Gilmore? He goes around SANS Roger Waters calling himself and the other 2 dudes PINK FLOYD... Kinda like a BEATLES minus JOHN LENNON or STONES minus KEITH.... now you've lost me Dan.... Paul Weller? THE JAM weren't earth shattering, who cares, they had a few good songs

The difference between 1973 and 2008 PERIOD in the music business is now EVERYTHING is ONLY ABOUT MONEY - maybe not DYLAN and 1 or 2 others but everything else.

Yeah, I went to 100's and 100's and 100's of concerts in the 70's and 80's (and less in the 90's) and the main thing I can look back on is in those days it wasn't all MECHANICAL like it is now. We paid about $15 to $20 for a good seat, NOT $150 to $200 as are today's prices (and I'm LOW BALLING)......THE EAGLES weren't selling their PURE-PAINT-BY-NUMBERS-FORMULA excuse for music through WAL MART - Holy Sh*t, that's AMAZING !!!

Hell of a lot good stopping Vietnam did? (that's a TOTALLY uninformed statement amigo) It only saved tens of thousands of lives... please read a HISTORY BOOK !!! "Those that don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it" JUST LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW .... wow, what a surprise.....YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT ABOUT TODAY'S "REBELLIOUS YOUTH" - THANKS, I OWE YOU ONE.....



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HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> WHOA, David Gilmore? He goes around SANS Roger
> Waters calling himself and the other 2 dudes PINK
> FLOYD... Kinda like a BEATLES minus JOHN LENNON or
> STONES minus KEITH.... now you've lost me Dan....
> Paul Weller? THE JAM weren't earth shattering, who
> cares, they had a few good songs
>

David Gilmour is refusing to do a full Pink Floyd tour in the year 2008. I don't listen to the Jam at all, only know they were playing arenas in England toward the end and could do it again and Paul Weller said he would have to be starving to do a reunion. Pity you for not being able to figure that one out.




> The difference between 1973 and 2008 PERIOD in the
> music business is now EVERYTHING is ONLY ABOUT
> MONEY - maybe not DYLAN and 1 or 2 others but
> everything else.
>

Dylan makes a nice paycheck too.


> Yeah, I went to 100's and 100's and 100's of
> concerts in the 70's and 80's (and less in the
> 90's) and the main thing I can look back on is in
> those days it wasn't all MECHANICAL like it is
> now. We paid about $15 to $20 for a good seat, NOT
> $150 to $200 as are today's prices (and I'm LOW
> BALLING)......THE EAGLES weren't selling their
> PURE-PAINT-BY-NUMBERS-FORMULA excuse for music
> through WAL MART - Holy Sh*t, that's AMAZING !!!
>

I have seen about 85 gigs this year and quite a few weren't mechanical paint by numbers shows.


> Hell of a lot good stopping Vietnam did? (that's a
> TOTALLY uninformed statement amigo) It only saved
> tens of thousands of lives... go read a HISTORY
> BOOK !!! "Those that don't learn from the past are
> condemned to repeat it" JUST LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING
> NOW GENIUS.... wow, what a surprise.....YOU JUST
> PROVED MY POINT ABOUT TODAY'S "REBELLIOUS YOUTH" -
> ha... THANKS LOADS DUDE, I OWE YOU ONE.....


And basically the same government now as was in place in the last days of the Vietnam war ramming through a similiar war. Again pity you for not being able to figure that one out.

-



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Just read the latest issue of Q. Both Jimmy and Jones are interviewed. When Page is asked about the possibility of a longer tour, he answers, "things are looking to good on that front" or something to that effect.

Just read the latest issue of Q. Both Jimmy and Jones are interviewed. When Page is asked about the possibility of a longer tour, he answers, "things are looking to good on that front" or something to that effect.

I think the more likely scenerio of a few selected shows, perhaps a few more in England and the US...Like Madison Square Garden.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, you have an outrageous sense of humour my friend. The only band that I have seen with four members or less that play with such power (noooo, not just being loud and heavy), are ZZ Top. The Stones were never about power though, so not point comparing.

SD

I love Led Zeppelin, but in a way, am glad it was a 'one off' That is how it was advertised and it makes that show even more special.

There have ben too many reunions. Zep should be original and leave it imo.

They wanted to do one more great show, and by all accounts they did just that the O2. They don't need the money (which is the only reason all these bands have reformed anyway), and Plant is in rude health creatively, having just made what is arguably the finest album of his solo career. What's in it for him? Don't get me wrong: I'd LOVE to see Zep live, but from plant's point of view, in particular, it makes little sense. There's no "unfinished business".

Dan Wrote:
> >anyway, you're
> > listening to an audience recorded BOOTLEG, What
> do
> > you expect?
>
> It wasn't the quality of the recording to cause me
> to cringe when Robert first started on Good Times
> Bad Times.

They were ALL pretty shaky on the first couple numbers. They started to gel w/ "Black Dog" and really hit their stride w/ "Trampled Under Foot."

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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>
> The difference between 1973 and 2008 PERIOD in the
> music business is now EVERYTHING is ONLY ABOUT
> MONEY
>


Yes, you are so right, but my conclusion was 100 % the opposite of yours. Just because money seems to be the core of music these days I was actually relieved to find out that Led Zeppelin only did this show to pay tribute to Ahmet Ertegun and to support his charity fund and decided NOT to make some money out of it.

And although I also think it is a shame that nowadays a lot of live shows are mostly shows and not so much about live music, I am not overestimating the effect Led Zeppelin would have in turning young artists towards "real music". There are loads and loads of young bands out there that make real music and do a great job too. They don't need no dynosaurs to show them the way. They found out it is real fun to make music together. I LOVE bands that are having fun making music together. Actually I ONLY love bands that are having fun making music together.

R Wrote:
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> Dan Wrote:
> > >anyway, you're
> > > listening to an audience recorded BOOTLEG,
> What
> > do
> > > you expect?
> >
> > It wasn't the quality of the recording to cause
> me
> > to cringe when Robert first started on Good
> Times
> > Bad Times.
>
> They were ALL pretty shaky on the first couple
> numbers. They started to gel w/ "Black Dog" and
> really hit their stride w/ "Trampled Under Foot."

Exactly what I heard from two friends who were there. One said that he had that "Oh shhhhit" feeling when they started, but that that was banished by the third song.

like seinfeld says sarcasticly, thats a shame, lol

Why does it have to be in 2008 ?

Zeppelin not touring due to a Plant / Krausse tour....now that is a dime holding up a dollar....big time.