Cover story of TIME magazine in 1976 was all about global COOLING.

bv Wrote:
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> There was a time when people thought the mother
> earth was flat.


Michael Jackson and Tom Cruise, still do

LA FORUM of Sweden wrote:
<Gösta Wallin is a scientist and he's not American and he's not ignorant.>

I did not call him an ignorant. He's stone dead, though. Passed away in 2002, if I'm not mistaken. Almost 100 years old. Not among the up and comminc young scientist, perhaps?

Global warming is BS!

aslecs Wrote:
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> Global warming is BS!


Brown Sugar? huh?

I know (I'm related to the family). Mr Wallin died a couple of years ago and he has a son, Gösta Wallin: [sv.wikipedia.org].

possible temporary global warming??????

still aint explained

TIME Magazine Another Ice Age? -- Jun. 24, 1974
Science
Another Ice Age?

Monday, Jun. 24, 1974

As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, or the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age. Telltale signs are everywhere —from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest.

Gösta Wallin is great, so PIC and so right. About this being religion: [vaken.se]


"Göran Folin från Jordens Vänner anklagar Gösta och Peter för klimathotsförnekelse".

Gösta Wallin is accused of denial on a theory. By a guy from Jordens vänner. Sounds like religion to me.

possible temporary global warming??????

still aint explained

Right, "temporary" until we go back to "cooling". It's all a joke

Its kinda easy to go against the flow and find SOMEONE who'll deny the majority!

Even Bush (god bless him) is finally coming around to the idea.

It's aalso a clash between theories. This theory is the dominant. And yet scientists who support the dominant theory admit they dont know if mankind is causing this temporary change.

[en.wikipedia.org]

The MAJORITY thought we were for sure into global cooling in the 1970s.

This is all nonsense so this group has something to "hand their hats on".

Someone? There are many.
There's nothing wrong in testing a popular theory about Global Warming and getting paid AND being on the right side.

[meteo.lcd.lu]



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Oh frig me, wikipedia got it so it has to be true!

And your statement reports that scientist don't know if its man made. So more reason to do something cause if were wrong then god help the future.



And the 'majority' never thought there was global warning in the 70's. thats just one ropey mag article you've managed to find.

ignorance is bliss and also very dangerous.....

Nothing wrong at all. Just recall that there was a similar frenzy not so long ago about an opposite view.

It all balances out!

Yes i remember that, the idea of a new ice age. The majority believed it. Maybe it is true, the last ice age was 400 years (?) ago right? PEople were actually accused over witchcraft (witches using their craft to change the climate)

It all balances out? To what?

So you've norticed no climate change where you live?

Seasons aren't different?

Its autumn here and I'm in a tshirt with the door open?

remember that in the 70's?

Check your garden. Beds still flowering?

The man thousand of global charties warning us against change in climate... and there ALL wrong??

Right! I do not believe EITHER view.

more fool you pal!

So you noticed no change in where you live?

Me neither other than maybe there is a little change, a cycle, maybe. ablett, the summer of 2006 was amazing, in Sweden, warmth, warm water due to a four week high pressure. 9 million Swedes believed this was the end of the world. This year noone said anything. Why? Well I bet it's because of the horrible low pressure. This is the case every year. No big change. No periods, nothing. High and low pressure. Maybe, we are in a cycle, maybe. If so i hope for more warm summers like in the 20s and 60s and 70s and 80s and 90s and 40s and 50s and 30s. Etc.

So I am a "fool" for not agreeing with you? (Who's the fool? HA)

Ok, so you had a fab summer. We had the worst floods on record and nearly had the whole county evacuated!

I work as a graphic designer in the rural industry and on ground level there isn't one person, whether he's a farmer, seed merchant or scientist who will not confirm a very recent and permanent change in the climate and seasons.

So believe what you will. I for one want to be able to say I tried if predictions come true.

And i don't believe for one minute you haven't noticed any changes in your own environment.....

This is like Wood vs Taylor. Not much mileage in this so to speak.

Calling all "fools", "ignorants", "geniouses", "rightwingers", "lefties", etc etc. This is a topic far too important to take down to a level like this. You're behaving like little children throwing sand at eachother in play school.
Like BV said: This thread is open to those who would like to congratulate Al Gore and the cause.
Don't turn this into a pro og against the US.

And btw- Just a correction of facts: Someone wrote that China is polluting more than the US. That is not yet true. But if we don't help the Chinese clean up their coal industry, they could, in the future, pollute as much as the US of A are polluting today. That's why we offset - buy carbon quotas.

ablett, what be your point?

Congratulations to Al Gore for being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't understand people who think global warming isn't real. You always have to ask yourself who has the most to loose. So if Global Warming is real (as most of us believe) the present ENERGY industry (based on Oil, Petrol, Coal, Nuclear Plants, etc) has the most to loose because the people that want to see this planet survive will look for cleaner ways to creat energy (Solar, Wind, Hybrid, Etc.) Here in the "Sun Belt" (Southern California, Arizona, South Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, etc if everyone had solar panels on their roofs to cut the elecric/gas bills down they'd probably save a huge % in the use of Elecricity. Same if they did it all around the world where ever it is warm/hot and sunny most of the time. Same with hybrid cars, you still have to buy gas/petrol but you cut back so much that it would maybe equal the energy demands of say 30 or 40 years ago if everyone drove a hybrid. This is how we start. I'm glad to see BV on board with the same attitude. Between his support of Gore, Bangkok , and Beer I'm really starting to like the guy a lot (I might even give "Charmed Life" another chance). By the way, the big losers in all of this would be OIL, and looking at the profits theyre making these days I think they want to stay exactly were they are. It's all so simple and logical.

"ablett, what be your point?"

eh,? It aint rocket science?

umm, the fact is that hybrid cars cause MORE harm as the maunfacturing process for the batteries results in an incredible amount of pollutants.