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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 11, 2010 22:11



Mick Jagger -- Keith Richards 1972 ------------------------- Bob Gruen



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: November 13, 2010 14:33

Interesting bit of Stones trivia I never knew about in this article:




The Wind from the East: French Intellectuals, the Cultural Revolution, and the Legacy of the 1960s by Richard Wolin - review

A study of the intellectual legacy of the events of '68 impresses Julian Jackson

Julian Jackson
The Guardian, Saturday 13 November 2010

In a notorious speech during the 2007 presidential election campaign, Nicolas Sarkozy lambasted the "legacy of 1968" in France for having ushered in "intellectual and moral relativism". This opportunistic gesture towards the conservative electorate was rather surprising since no politician with Sarkozy's tumultuous private life would have had any chance of being elected president without the liberalisation of moral attitudes that occurred in France after May '68. To confuse matters further, once he had been elected, Sarkozy chose as foreign minister Bernard Kouchner, founder of Médecins sans Frontières, who had been an activist in 1968 and sees himself as faithful to the values of that year.

What this shows is that the legacy of '68 remains hotly debated in France, and this readable book by the American academic Richard Wolin is an important contribution to that debate. If people tend to remember May '68 nowadays in terms of sexual liberalisation, at the time protesters spoke the language of Marxism, and Wolin focuses on one particularly radical Marxist group – the French Maoists – whose heyday was the period 1967-73. This might seem a somewhat narrow subject until we remember that the supporters of the Maoists included such luminaries as Michel Foucault and Jean-Paul Sartre (who had nothing else in common).

This was a time when the language of politics was extraordinarily violent. André Glucksmann, now one of the anti-totalitarian "new philosophers" of whom the most famous is Bernard-Henri Lévy, believed in his Maoist phase that France was a fascist country; Sartre called for popular tribunals to counteract bourgeois justice. Not to be outdone, Foucault advocated a "people's justice" without courts on the lines of the September massacres of 1792.

Curiously the Maoists had missed out on 1968 itself. Blinded by dogmatism, they assumed that an event led by students could not be serious. It must be a plot hatched by de Gaulle and the French state as a pretext to crush the proletariat. This complete contradiction between the reality on the streets and what theory said must be happening caused one Maoist leader, Robert Linhart, to have a nervous breakdown. After May 1968, they tried to make up for lost time, and achieved notoriety when de Gaulle's successor, Georges Pompidou (ignoring de Gaulle's wise maxim regarding Sartre: "you do not arrest Voltaire", arrested two of their leaders and outlawed their newspaper. Suddenly they become a cause célèbre. The Rolling Stones even interrupted a Paris concert in 1970 to allow a French Maoist to address the audience.

Sartre's flirtation with the Maoists is especially interesting. In the 60s, Sartre's philosophy of political engagement had been eclipsed by the fashion for structuralism, which abolished agency and the "subject". Structuralism was potentially fatalistic about the prospects for political change: "structures do not take to the streets", observed the philosopher Lucien Goldmann. Then in 1968 "events" suddenly asserted themselves after all. Sartre was the only member of the intellectual old guard to be invited to address the students in the occupied Sorbonne. What attracted Sartre to the Maoists – and vice versa – was their energy, anger, voluntarism and moral outrage.

For others Maoism was merely a question of opportunism. Wolin has a chapter on the Maoist flirtation of the literary journal Tel Quel, whose editor, Philippe Sollers, has jumped on every political bandwagon (though always a little late). In the 1960s he supported art for art's sake in the form of the hermetic new novel, then moved to Stalinism, then Maoism, until finally in 1978 he called for a vote for the centrist Giscard d'Estaing. The Tel Quel group visited China in 1974 and were enthused by what they saw. When a repentant French Maoist later said to his former Chinese guide that he had been shown only the positive side of communism, the response was: "we showed you what you wanted to see." Julia Kristeva, one of that group, was so taken by China that she praised the barbaric practice of binding women's feet as an example of the power of Chinese women. My only complaint about Wolin's book is that he spends too much time on Kristeva, who perfectly exemplifies the capacity of intelligent people to write nonsense in impenetrable prose.

There are no Maoists left now except for the unrepentant – but now bizarrely fashionable – philosopher Alain Badiou, who is still willing to defend the Khmer Rouge with Mao's chilling comment "the revolution is not a dinner party". But Wolin's book is not just about a strange few years of political folly. He argues that by a process of unintended consequences Maoism allowed a generation of French political activists to rediscover the language of human rights. This is not a totally original argument, but Wolin expounds it effectively. The Maoists might live with "China in our heads", as the saying went, but their political activism also caused them to explore what French society was really like.

Following Mao's dictum that "one must get down from the horse in order to pluck the flower", many idealistic young Maoist radicals went to work in factories. In the same spirit Foucault helped to found the Prison Information Group (GIP) to investigate and denounce the conditions in French prisons. This experience led him to substitute Sartre's idea of the all-knowing "universal" intellectual with that of the "specific" intellectual who comments only on concrete cases that he knows about. In another curious twist of history, it was through a Maoist-influenced group called Vive la Révolution that homosexual liberation first entered French radical politics in 1971.

For Wolin, then, if France is today less authoritarian than it once was, with a more active associative life where many people are engaged in causes such as the defence of sans-papiers – illegal immigrants – that is one of the legacies of the strange Maoist moment. If that's true, no wonder Sarkozy dislikes May '68 so much.

Julian Jackson's books include France: The Dark Years, 1940-1944 (Oxford).

[www.guardian.co.uk]


Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 13, 2010 22:20



M-BOOKS ----- Melbourne AGE ------------------------------------ 14 NOVEMBER 2010





ROCKMAN

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: stateofshock ()
Date: November 14, 2010 21:50

Quote
Rockman




BOOKS --------------------- Rolling Stone 1117 November 2010

"We wanted to be black @#$%&". LOL

***********************************************************
"What I'm doing is a sexual thing. I dance and all dancing is a replacement for sex". - Mick Jagger

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: November 15, 2010 21:40

Rockman..yea'.. I've listened to Jerry-Lee Lewis latest album "Mean Old Man" a few times now.Theres a few tracks on it I like..but I wouldn't say it was my favourite album I've brought this year.Its good for a bit of background music

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 15, 2010 22:01

Good on ya colonial .... Dead Flowers with Mick is me fave ...that thing just swings....

And don't forget The Killer's Sun material ...EEEEssential.....



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 18, 2010 11:32



.........Whoooo life can be tuff sometimes .....



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 18, 2010 11:55





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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 18, 2010 22:14






.........

relix ---- Issue 226 ---- September/October 2010



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: November 19, 2010 00:23

Keith is on the cover of Guitar Techniques magazine this month:

[www.musicradar.com]

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: JJackFl ()
Date: November 19, 2010 01:23

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Green Lady
Keith is on the cover of Guitar Techniques magazine this month:

[www.musicradar.com]
[www.iorr.org]

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: November 19, 2010 01:29

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JJackFl
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Green Lady
Keith is on the cover of Guitar Techniques magazine this month:

[www.musicradar.com]
[www.iorr.org]

Sorry, JJackFl. Nothing worse than taking the trouble to post something and then finding that some other unobservant idiot is trying to steal your credit. Apologies.

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: JJackFl ()
Date: November 19, 2010 01:57

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Green Lady
Sorry, JJackFl.Apologies.

It happens. I was in same so many times.

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: November 19, 2010 18:24


Jimmy REED credits JP LELOIR

HMN

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 20, 2010 23:19



The Age A2-Books --------------------------------------------- 20 November 2010



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 21, 2010 07:53



Little Stevie Wonder ------------------------- Motortown Revue circa 1963



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 22, 2010 13:37



Rolling Stone RS 1118 November 2010



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 25, 2010 07:48



Life -- Keith Richards............ Orion Audiobooks



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 25, 2010 20:24





UNCUT The Ultimate Music Guide Issue 4 ---- The Rolling Stones



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 25, 2010 23:33



Keith Richards LIFE holographic plastic poster --- 60x84cm

Many many thanks to Pat for scoring --- Owe ya big time for your generosity my dear friend



ROCKMAN

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: November 25, 2010 23:49

its been a long time.....best wishes from farm....cheeers!! And thanks for all stuff you brought

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 25, 2010 23:55

Hi there rooster ..... cool ta see ya still around .... Hope all is well

TAKE CARE



ROCKMAN

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: November 26, 2010 00:06

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Rockman
Hi there rooster ..... cool ta see ya still around .... Hope all is well

TAKE CARE
thanks mate...going through this enormisly thread..is makin me feel very relaxt!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-11-26 00:23 by rooster.

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: November 26, 2010 00:20

Great to see my old friend Rooster PopUp ones in a while................how are you doing Rooster everything under control?

__________________________

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: November 26, 2010 00:25

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NICOS
Great to see my old friend Rooster PopUp ones in a while................how are you doing Rooster everything under control?
Hey kets!!...yeah...het is goed om vrij te zen!!

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: November 26, 2010 00:37

What happend that je vrij bent nu? did you done your time? ;o)

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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: November 29, 2010 02:22



confused smiley for me
hot smiley fo ya winking smiley

HMN

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: November 29, 2010 02:27


The rockin' machine proudly wearin' his motorcycle HD Hat



Some rockers own a blade , some a dagger

winking smiley

HMN

Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 29, 2010 03:57



The Word - In Box ----------------------------- October 2010



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Re: Some Kinda Stones Connections
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 29, 2010 04:10

Thanks for Rockin' Machine stuff Honestman .....

Rugby!!! .... Reckon that must be the ball game I saw years ago when I accidently flicked on a sports channel



Leon Russell --- The Word ------------------------------------- October 2010



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