Her refused to sign my copy of Stranger in this town commenting he had a disagreement with the record company.

Murders Crow - Joe Henry - Taylor plays on six of the tracks and his playing is
glistening and soaring. I posted the MP3's on the site way back Chuck Leavel also plays on the record.

play that guitar boy

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JJHMick
He refused to sign my copy of Stranger in this town commenting he had a disagreement with the record company.

No, you're getting two things mixed up. There's no reason for him to refuse signing "Stranger In This Town".

It's the CD "Shadowman" that he objects to. The problem is that it is in fact a Sasha Gracanin CD (Taylor was only hired to play guitar on this in 1996). It didn't sell very well on Savebone Records. Seven years later (in May 2003) it was suddenly released as a Mick Taylor record, entirely without his consent. If fans show that to him he'll say he doesn't want to sign it.

He has every right to say this. It's not even his own album, yet a company called New Millenium Communications started marketing this under Taylor's name. NMC then sold it on to Pilot Records. They repackaged it as a double CD, which contains the Sasha disc and a live album CD called Coastin' Home (from 1994) that features MT on guitar (which is not an official Taylor album either).

On Nico's site there is also a warning against this illegal release.
[www.nzentgraf.de] . Read the 05/18/03 entry.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-27 01:13 by Lightnin'.

Stones Throw is an excellent album, and even better when performed live.

Dylan's "Real Live" album is also quite superb, though the track selection could have been better.

I seriously need to start investin in more Taylor albums, but not simply where he plays on one or two tracks. As a completist, I should get those too I know, but I just can't justify it at this point. I only want the ones where he is a main performer, like the Carla Olson one. Problem is, a lot of them are out of print and the used prices are astronomical!! But if I could pick up those Mayall albums, the missing Too Hot For Snakes CD and Stranger in this Town I could begin to be happy. How does he sound on the 2 Dylan releases - Real Live and Infidels??

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VoodooLounge13
How does he sound on the 2 Dylan releases - Real Live and Infidels??

Infidels and Real Live is some of the best work he's done. He's also on Dylan's "The Bootleg Series, Vol. 1-3" (3 CD), quite a few of the tracks on the third disc feature Taylor on guitar.
It's obvious that working with Dylan was something that really inspired him and brought out some of his best playing. If you don't have Infidels and Real Live you should definitely buy them.

Hey, I got Taylor to sign my: Stranger in this town!!

He did a meet & greet at the now closed Tower records in Hollywood when it was
released, back in the early 90's. Too bad there was only a handfull of people
who showed up to meet him.

MLC

For all those interested - here's my personal MT CD collection - it doesn't include any CDs that feature MT on all tracks like some Mayall or Dylan releases, it does however include rare radio broadcasts, excerpts from Mick's contributions to soundtracks etc.

CD 1 (56:13)


The Juniors (Aug 1964)
1 There’s A Pretty Girl 2:11
2 Pocket Size 2:38

John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers (Oct 1967)
3 Suspicions (Part 1) 2 :58
4 Suspicions (Part 2) 5 :28


Sunnyland Slim
- Slim’s Got His Thing Goin On (Oct 1968)
5 You Used To Love Me 3:42
6 She’s Got A Thing Going On 3:50
7 Substitute Woman 3:28
8 My Past Life 2:42

Champion Jack Dupree (March 1969)
- 7” single
09 Ba’la Fouche
10 Kansas City 2:25

Keef Hartley Band
- The Battle Of North West Six (Jan 1970)
11 Believe In You 5:22

Jack Grunsky
- Toronto (Jan 1971)
12 Figure Of The Gothic Age 2:56
13 Travels 3:49
14 Moon Child Song 2:30
15 Ain’t You Got A Thing To Say To Me 3:35

B.B. Blunder
- Worker’s Playtime (May 1971)
16 New Day 6:09


CD 2 (58:14)

John Mayall
- Back To The Roots (June 1971)
1 Accidental Suicide 6:17
2 Marriage Madness 3:36
3 Full Speed Ahead 5:21
4 Mr. Censor Man 4:44
5 Force Of Nature 6:34
6 Devil’s Tricks 7:45

Reg King
- Reg King (July 1971)
7 Savannah 8:22

Tucky Buzzard
- Buzzard (Sept 1971)
8 My Friend 4:00
9 Whiskey Eyes 5:53

John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers
- Thru The Years (Oct 1971)
10 Knockers Step Forward 3:15
11 Hide And Seek 2:12


CD 3 (78:59)

Nicky Hopkins
- The Tin Man Was A Dreamer (April 1973)
1 Dolly 4:42
2 Speed On 4:01
3 Lawyer’s Lament 3:44

Herbie Mann
- London Underground (April 1974)
4 Bitch 8:11
5 Something In The Air 3:33
6 Layla 7:58
7 A Whiter Shade Of Pale 4:43
8 Memphis Spoon Bread & Dover Sole 3:42

Herbie Mann
- Reggae (1974)
9 Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da 7:32
10 Rivers Of Babylon 4:48
11 Swingin’ Shepherd Blues 8:14
12 My Girl 17:51


CD 4 (75:31)

Ron Wood
- I’ve Got My Own Album To Do (Sep1974)
1 Far East Man 4:40
2 Take A Look At The Guy 2:34
3 Shirley 5:19
4 If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody 3:32

Robin Millar with Mick Taylor (early 1975)
5 Catch As Catch Can 3:40
6 For My Life 4:04

Tom Newman
- Fine Old Town (Feb 1975)
7 Day Of The Percherons 3:34

Ron Wood
- Now Look (1975)
8 It’s Unholy 6:32

John Philllips & Mick Taylor
- “The Man Who Fell To Earth” (Jan – April 1976)
09 - Extracts from Soundtrack 29:06

Sirkel & Co. (1976)
10 Living In The Laid Back 2:44
11 Riff A Bit 2:48
12 I Haven’t Got Too Much Time 3:38
13 Up On Your Cloud 2:56


CD 5 (78:16)

Herbie Mann
- Reggae II (1976)
01 Stoned By You 5:33

Elliott Murphy
- Just A Story From America (1977)
02 Rock Ballad 5:02

John Mayall
- Primal Solos (1977)
03 Look At The Girl 5:19
04 Wish You Were Mine 8:09
05 Start Walkin’ 7:51

Little Feat
- Waiting For Columbus (1978)
06 Apolitical Blues 3:51

Gong
- Expresso II (1978)
07 Heavy Tune 6:24

Gong
- Downwind (1979)
08 What You Know 3:41

Mick Taylor
- Promo Single (1979)
09 Leather Jacket 3:28

Inoue Takayuki
- It’s Never Too Late (1981)
10 Talking With Mick 5:22
11 Give Me Some Lovin’ 4:11
12 Yorkshire Pudding 4:36
13 Ascot Park 3:33

Billy Preston
- The Best (Japanese Version 1982)
14 That’s The Way God Planned It (live 1973) 4:05

Bob Dylan
- 7” single (1983)
15 Angel Flying Too Close To The Ground 4:44



CD 6 (76:59)

Alan Merrill
- Alan Merrill (1985)
1 Always Another Train 3:34

Bob Dylan
- Empire Burlesque (1985)
2 Tight Connection 5:21

Guido Toffoletti
- No Compromise (1985)
3 Still The Same 6:14
4 Let Me Hold You Tight (take 1) 6:36

The Wild Things
on: What A Nice Way To Turn 17 (1986)
5 Siberian Mines 3:53

“Howard Stern Show” on US Radio WXRK (Dec 1986)
06 Judgement Day Blues (w/Mark Farner) 2:24
07 Improvised Blues (w/Howard Stern) 2:16

“Hot Licks – Rock, Blues & Slide Guitar” (Dec 1986 or Jan 1987)
08 – 16 excerpts from MT (and Arlen Roth)
teaching how to play rock, blues
and slide guitar 16:19

Dr. John
- NYC, Lone Star Café, Nov 17, 1987
17 My Blue Heaven 4:48
18 You Lie Too Much 7:26
19 She’s My Baby/You Got My Mojo Working5:59

Guido Toffoletti’s Blues Society
- Ways Back (1988)
20 Let Me Hold You Tight (take 2) 6:39

Bob Dylan
- Down In The Groove (1988)
21 Death Is Not The End 5:10


CD 7 (68:15)

Joan Jett And The Blackhearts
- Up Your Alley (1988)
01 I Hate Myself For Loving You 4:08

John Mayall
- Archives To Eighties (1988)
02 Force Of Nature (remix) 5:34
03 Mr. Censor Man (remix) 4:44

Keith Richards
- Talk Is Cheap (1988)
04 I Could Have Stood You Up 3:10

Dickey Betts Band
- Lonestar Roadhouse, NYC, Nov 1, 1988
05 Spoonful 10:02
06 Southbound 10:13

Speedo Harmonica Jones
- Have Blues Will Travel (1988)
07 Little Sister 5:05
08 Brake Your Broom 4:40
09 Blues For Vic 5:40
10 The Speedster 2:55
11 Foxy Dame 4:30
12 Sea Cruise 3:00
13 I Smell A Rat 3:30



CD 8 (72:18)

Joe Henry
- Murder Of Crows (1989)
01 Step Across The Mountain 4:08
02 Right About Linden 3:37
03 Here And Gone 4:19
04 Lose Me 5:00
05 Falling Soon 4:53
06 Vigilante Joe 3:31

Phoebe Snow
- Something Real (1989)
07 I’m Your Girl 5:19
08 Stay Away 4:15
09 Cardiac Arrest 3:51

The Golden Palominos
- A Dead Horse (1989)
10 Lucky 4:44

“The Last Of The Finest” (1989)
Mick Taylor (gtr), Jack Nietzsche (keyb), Michael Hoenig (keyb)
11 – 20 tunes from the soundtrack 10:15

Brian Kramer And The Blues Masters
- Win Or Lose (1989)
21 Got Me On Down 2:38
22 Pleading The Blues 5:45

Mick Taylor
- CD Promo Single (1990)
23 Laundromat Blues 5:15
24 You Gotta Move 4:44


CD 9 (78:01)

Carla Olson & Mick Taylor
- Live At Roxy (Japan 1990)
1 Sway 6:57
02 Silver Train 6:38
03 You Gotta Move 6:34

Rakatan
- Better Than That (1990)
04 Show Me 3:22
(plus five other songs - not identified,
so they don’t appear here)

Bob Dylan
- The Bootleg Series Vols. 1-3 (1991)
05 Someone’s Got A Hold Of My Heart 3:31
06 Tell Me 4:31
07 Lord Protect My Child 4:24
08 Foot Of Pride 3:56

James Harman
“Bluesin” Festival, Pistoia, July 6, 1991
09 Is It Yes? 7:33
10 Red House/Goin’ Down Slow 12:41
11 Worried About You 10:47

Mick Taylor
Laguna Beach, Gallery Of Music, Sep 21, 1991
12 Unknown Acoustic Blues 4:28



CD 10 (62:17)

Dramarama
- Vinyl (1991)
1 Classic Rot 4:27
2 Volunteer, Please 5:51

Mick Taylor
on: Guitar Speak III (1991)
3 Red Shoes 5:20

John McVie with Lola Thomas
- Gotta Band (1992)
4 Now I Know 4:06
5 All That I Was Guilty Of 3:26
6 One More Time With Feeling 4:57
7 The Way I Do 3:39

The Coupe De Villes
- Burning Blues (1992)
08 So Many Reasons 5:56

Tonky Blues Band
- Piedra Rodante (1992)
09 The Killing Floor 3:41
10 The Sky Is Crying 8:54
11 Steady Rolling Man 6:42
12 Look Whatcha Done 3:29


CD 11 (69:25)

Carla Olson
- Within An Ace (1993)
01 Justice 4:48
02 World Of Pain 6:36
03 Fortune 6:14
04 Within An Ace 6:39
05 How Many Days 5:07
06 Rescue Fantasy (Composer Credit Only) 5:04
07 Is The Lady Gone 5:39

Gerry Groom
- Once In A Blue Moon (1993)
08 Coastin’ Home 3:55
09 Mick’s Jam 7:58
10 Music Teacher 4:45
11 Suzie Q 3:17
12 I Can’t Be Satisfied 4:04

John Mayall
- Wake Up Call (1993)
13 Wake Up Call 4:13
14 Not At Home 4:08


CD 12 (77:55)

Anthony Thistlethwaite
- Aesop Wrote A Fable (1993)
1 Jenny 4:09
2 It Don’t Make Sense 6:03

Mick Taylor & Jim Lacey Baker (1993)
03 When Something Is Wrong With My Baby 4:36

Mick Taylor & Jimmy Woods
30th June: US radio (WCBE-FM), June 30, 1993. Host: John Peterson.
04 Long Distance Call 5:10
05 Stop Breaking Down 4:46
06 My Little Machine 4:21

Phil Manzanera & Friends
Bluesfestival San Remo, Aug 17, 1993
07 Sunshine Of Your Love 8:32
MT (gtr)/Phil Manzanera (gtr)/Jack Bruce (voc, bass)/Richard Thompson (gtr)/& others

Mick Taylor and Chuck St. Troy
- Back To The Streets - Celebrating The Music Of Don Covay (1993)
08 Somebody’s Enjoying My Home 4:44

Ratones Paranoicos
- Hecho En Memphis (1993)
09 Grand Funk 5:16
10 Cielo Boogie 4:24

Dead Amanda
Why (1994)
11 Turns To Gold 5:52

Carla Olson
- Reap The Whirlwind (1994)
12 Reap The Whirlwind 5:52
13 Kinderwars 4:08
14 Honest As Daylight 4:52


CD 13 (69:40)

Percy Sledge
- Blue Night (1994)
01 Your Love Will Save The World 3:48
02 Going Home Tomorrow 3:35

Jim Lacey Baker
- on U.S. TV Show (1994)
03 Earthquake Jam 6:17

The Chesterfield Kings
- Let’s Go Get Stoned (1994)
04 I’m Not Talking 2:33

Peter Schleicher
- Steinzeit (1994)
5 Die Beisl Hua 3:00

Anthony Thistlethwaite
- Cartwheels (1995)
6 Cartwheels 7:13
7 Farming The Right Acres 2:55
8 Misgrating Bird 4:33
9 Atlas 3:31

Mick Taylor
- Vienna, May 6 or 7, 1995
10 Jumping Jack Flash 5:24
11 Start Me Up 3:38

Finis Tasby
- People Don’t Care (1995)
12 You Don’t Have To Worry 3:38

Dead Amanda
on: Coastin’ Home (Japan 1995)
13 Turns To Gold (remix) 5:26

Boris Grebenshchikov & Aquarium
- The Navigator (19995)
14 Ne Koci 3:31
15 Tamoshennbi Blues 3:44

Savage Rose
- Black Angel (1995)
16 Black Angel 3:31
17 Early Morning Blues 3:28



CD 14 (69:56)

Ligabue & Mick Taylor
‘Yes For Europe’, Paris, June 1996
01 You Can’t Always Get What You Want 5:33
02 Vivo Morto O X 5:19

Blue Thunder
- Blues And Beyond (1996)
03 Going Back 5:33

Walkie Talkie
- School Yard Rhymes (1996)
04 Love In Arms (Composer Credit Only) 3:43

Dick Rivers
‘Taratata’, La Plaine Saint Denis, Feb 27, 1997
06 Ho Maman Merci 3:11
06 Rip It Up 2:36

The Institute Of Formal Research
– Vol. 1: File Under Subconscious (1997)
07 Element 47 6:07
08 Strange Companions 3:23
09 Oasis/Gunship 5:28

Black Cat Bone
- Taylormade (1997)
10 Wake Up Call 4:19
11 The Stumble 3:24
12 Blind Willie McTell 10:15
13 Mick’s Song 6:28
14 Slow Blues 4:19



CD 15 (77:07)

Mick Taylor
on UK radio (BBC2) ‘Rhythm & Blues’, London, Apr 17, 1997.
01 The Stumble/Introduction 1:04
02 Slow Blues - London 1997 (part only) 4:17
03 Little Red Rooster - London 1997 4:39
04 You Gotta Move - London 1997 4:15

Ligabue
- Viva (1997)
05 You Can’t Always Get What You Want 4:49

Ligabue
- Su E Giu’ Da Un Palco (1997)
06 Hai Un Momento, Dio? 5:53

Mick Taylor & Max Middleton
on: Knights Of The Blues Table (1997)
07 You Shook Me 10:20

Anthony Thistlethwaite
- Crawfish And Caviar (1997)
08 Something Better 5:26
09 All The Way 4:34
10 Enchanted Rock 4:59
11 Colours 7:12

Billy Preston
- Digitally Remastered Best (Japan 1997)
12 Let It Be (live in Essen, Oct 1973) 2:29
(previously unreleased alternate version)

All Star Band
(Mick Taylor, John Mayall, Peter Green, Chris Dreja,
Jim McCarty, Keith Emerson, et al.)
Long Beach, CA, 6 Sep 1998
KLON-FM broadcast
13 Oh, Pretty Woman 8:00
14 You Shook Me 9:09


CD 16 (76:18)

Mick Taylor & Max Middleton
- “Bad City Blues” (1998)
01 - 03 (excerpts from Soundtrack) 3:39

Bill Wyman’s Rhythm Kings
- Anyway The Wind Blows (1998)
04 A True Romance 3:02

Mick Taylor
- A Stones’ Throw (Japan 1999)
05 Separately 4:27
06 Red House (live Madrid 12/98) 9:39

John Mayall
- The Masters (1999)
07 Parchman Farm 2:24

John Tiven Group
- Yes I Ram (1999)
08 Badmouth Moma
(Composer Credit Only) 2:53

Majic Ship
- Songwaves Project (1999)
09 Tell Me 4:34

Mick Taylor
- A Stones’ Throw (US 1999)
10 Never Fall In Love Again (remix) 3:52
11 Lost In The Desert (remix) 5:57

Bill Wyman’s Rhythm Kings
- Groovin’ (CD single) (2000)
12 Can’t Get My Rest At Night 3:44

Mick Taylor
- “Sur La Route Avec Mick Taylor”
28 April 2000
13 I’m Going Home 1:42
14 Blind Willie McTell 2:11

Mick Taylor
- Guitarrista Num.21 (2000)
15 Blues Road 1:11

Paul Brady
- Oh What A World (2000)
16 Travelling Light 3:26

Mick Taylor
- HOT FM Radio Session (2000)
17 Song For Marlies 2:23
18 Train Station Blues 3:27

John Mayall & Friends
- Along For The Ride (2001)
19 She Don’t Play By The Rules 5:12

John Phillips
- Pay Pack And Follow (2001)
20 Oh Virginia 4:11
21 Very Dread 4:37
22 Zulu Warrior 3:28


CD 17 (73:38)


Dick Heckstall-Smith
- Blues & Beyond (2001)
1 Spooky But Nice 6:14

Carla Olson
- Ring Of Truth (2001)
2 Winter 12:01

Carla Olson
- Honest As Daylight – The Best of Carla Olson 1981-2000 (2001)
03 Justice (alternate mix) 5:33

Al Kooper
- Rare & Well Done (2001)
4 I Believe To My Soul 4:29

Todd Sharpville
- The Meaning Of Life (2001)
5 Doghouse 6:55

Mick Taylor with Erwin Nyhoff
- Acoustic Session, Radio 192 Studios, Hilversum, Nov 24, 2001
6 Sister Morphine track 2 1:37
7 Dead Flowers track 13 4:45
8 I Got The Blues track 7 2:41
9 No Expectations track 11 3:58
10 Time Waits For No One track 20 6:14

Mick Taylor
On: IX. Gastrobluesfesztival – Paks (2002)
11 I Wonder Why 5:32

Adam Bomb
- New York Times (2002)
12 Heaven Come To Me 4:34
13 MacDougal Street 4:07
14 It’s Only Rock’n Roll 4:51


CD 18 (63:09)

Barry Goldberg
- Stoned Again (2002)
1 Ventilator Blues 3:54
2 Going Mad 4:43

Mick Taylor & Max Middleton
on: From Clarksdale To Heaven
- Remembering John Lee Hooker (2002)
3 This Is Hip 3:50

Debbie Davis
- Key To Love (2003)
4 Hard Road 4:52

Hans Van Lier (2003)
5 Hard Times 6:10
6 Mr. Goodtime On The Run 5:56

Lauren Field
- Modern Woman (2003)
7 This Is My Truth 4:34
8 Body Double 3:38

Lauren Field
- The Story of Us (2003)
9 Can’t Do This Anymore 3:30

Mick Taylor, Frank Diez, Reiner Regel
- Blues For Fritz – Rehearsals, Lahnstein 2003
10 – 16 incl. You Shook Me 18:27
Wayward Angel
Blues For Fritz

Mick Taylor
- 23. SWR1 Bluesfestival, Lahnstein (2003)
17 Blues For Fritz 3:45



CD 19 (78:25)

John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers & Friends
- 70th Birthday Concert (2003)
1 Somebody’s Acting Like A Child 8:00
2 Blues For The Lost Days 12:26
3 Walking On Sunset 6:34
4 Oh, Pretty Woman 9:32
5 California 15:30
6 Talk To Your Daughter 8:57

Peter Karp & The Roadshow Band
- The Turning Point (2003)
7 The Turning Point 4:13
8 Her And My Blues 7:38
9 I’m Not Giving Up 4:13



CD 20 (74:15)

John Mayall
- Rolling With The Blues (2003)
01 Emergency Boogie 4:32
02 Rolling With The Blues 9:05
03 Howlin’ Moon 6:30
04 Room To Move 6:37
05 Sitting Here Alone 6:25
06 The Stumble 5:16

Peter Karp
Philadelphia, The Tin Angel, 11 Nov 2003 (1st show)
07 Alabama 6:00
08 No Expectations 7:13

Andy Sharrocks
- Walking In Familiar Footsteps (2004)
09 Salvation In Disguise 5:17
10 Velvet Underground Song 5:34
11 Good Good Feeling 6:14
12 Stop That Train 5:32


CD 21 (72:41)

Nikki Sudden & The Last Bandits
- Treasure Island (2004)
01 Kitchen Blues 3:24
02 House Of Cards 4:31

Barrelhouse Blues Orchestra (2004)
03 Jumping Jack Flash 3:15
(live in Bournemouth, May 18, 2001)

Bob Dylan
- Is it Rolling Bob? – Reggae versions (1994)
04 I and I (reggae version) 5:44
05 I and I (dub version) 6:14

Bluespumpn
- Dirty Thirty – Open Hearts (2006)
06 Blues For The Lost Days 13:30
07 No Expectations 9:10
08 Hoochie Coochie Man 5:36

Reg King
- Reg King (re-release 2006)
09 Savannah (long version – different to original version) 11:52

John Mayall
- Essentially (2006)
10 Help Me (previously unreleased) 2:29
11 French Toast (previously unreleased) 6:02


CD 22 Supplement (48')


Jonathan Kelly
- single A-side (1970)
01 Make A Stranger Your Friend
(MT on backing vocals) 3:18

Penni Coleman
- internet download (2007)
02 It's Only Thunder (rec. 2005) 4:21

Jack Bruce
- How's Tricks (2003)
03 Without A Word (bonus track recorded in 1974) 5:50

Hollywood Roses
- Dopesnake (2007)
04 Jailbreak 4:07

Pereza
- Aproximaciones (2007)
05 Grupis 3:18
06 Superhermanas 4:07

Wentus Blues Band
- Family Meeting (2007)
07 Can't You Hear Me Knocking 10:07
08 Blind Willie McTell 6:11
09 Ventilator Blues 6:41


Maybe it helps you do your own collection...
Best wishes
Norbert

WOW!
I am at a loss for words. That is an AMAZIN collection, Norbert! How did you track them all down? Yet again I am reminded of how slight my dedication to our band is compared to some of the members of IORR!!!

"How did you track them all down?"

Well, with a little help from my friends...thanks to all of you out there...
Norbert

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JJHMick
Her refused to sign my copy of Stranger in this town commenting he had a disagreement with the record company.

On the other hand, folks have reported that he readily signs live boots.

Norbert, that collection is AMAZING!!!!

Norbert - really, that's quite a collection.

I have a few of those but mostly my collection is of live boots. And I have
quite a few of those... so does Open G...

MLC

That's a very good theory, Lightnin'. One that makes a lot of sense, and I bet it is not far off base.

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Lightnin'

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JJHMick
He refused to sign my copy of Stranger in this town commenting he had a disagreement with the record company.

No, you're getting two things mixed up. There's no reason for him to refuse signing "Stranger In This Town".

It's the CD "Shadowman" that he objects to. The problem is that it is in fact a Sasha Gracanin CD (Taylor was only hired to play guitar on this in 1996). It didn't sell very well on Savebone Records. Seven years later (in May 2003) it was suddenly released as a Mick Taylor record, entirely without his consent. If fans show that to him he'll say he's doesn't want to sign it.

He has every right to say this. It's not even his own album, yet a company called New Millenium Communications started marketing this under Taylor's name. NMC then sold it on to Pilot Records. They repackaged it as a double CD, which contains the Sasha disc and a live album CD called Coastin' Home (from 1994) that features MT on guitar (which is not an official Taylor album either).

On Nico's site there is also a warning against this illegal release.
[www.nzentgraf.de] . Read the 05/18/03 entry.

In the end it begs for the question if this is really a case of an "illegal release" or more a case of sloppy deals by Taylor and his management, allowing dubious record companies to exploit Taylor's name and fame for the marketing of recordings by fourth, fifth or even sixth-league artists just because of his involvement with a track or two.

Instead of alienating some of his loyal fans by refusing to sign such albums he should better blame the right people, even himself, for allowing such stuff coming out or at least not fighting against such releases.

I remember reading an interview with Mick Taylor many years ago where he even stated that he did not like "Stranger In This Town" because, now read this: "It's a bootleg".

How come that it's still openly sold everywhere?

Stranger In This Town a bootleg??? I think it's a case of an artist taking cash when he needed it - for allowing a sonically substandart recording coming out and after the fact blaming the record company that it's a bootleg, because he did not want to be associated with such a substandart-sounding album.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-27 01:03 by retired_dog.

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retired_dog
In the end it begs for the question if this is really a case of an "illegal release" or more a case of sloppy deals by Taylor and his management, allowing dubious record companies to exploit Taylor's name and fame for the marketing of recordings by fourth, fifth or even sixth-league artists just because of his involvement with a track or two.

Instead of alienating some of his loyal fans by refusing to sign such albums he should better blame the right people, even himself, for allowing such stuff coming out or at least not fighting against such releases.

It seems straightforward that, by not pursuing the scammers, Taylor encourages this sort of behavior, but doesn't it seem reasonable that he has decided to spend his life outside of a courtroom (even as a plaintiff)? Aside from the disagreeable nature of litigation, the amounts involved or recoverable might not be worth the significant bother.

As for the fans, I would have thought they would understand his not wanting to endorse with his signature the "theft" of his name or work. (By "theft", I mean his not being compensated properly or use of his name or work without his permission.) If someone stole a painting from the painter's home, would you expect the painter to autograph it for the purchaser, even if the purchaser were a "fan"? Even if the technical legal situation is different, isn't it reasonable for Taylor to feel the same way about some of the "unauthorized" or "uncompensated" recordings?

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retired_dog
I remember reading an interview with Mick Taylor many years ago where he even stated that he did not like "Stranger In This Town" because, now read this: "It's a bootleg".
.. Stranger In This Town a bootleg??? I think it's a case of an artist taking cash when he needed it - for allowing a sonically substandart recording coming out and after the fact blaming the record company that it's a bootleg, because he did not want to be associated with such a substandart-sounding album.

I don't understand what is inherently wrong with an artist releasing an album and later criticizing it. The truth will set you free.

Also, while one might hope that artists would release only flawless masterpieces: (1) I prefer unadulterated live music over the overdubbed concert albums many artists release so the bootleg bug is actually a feature for me, (2) I'd prefer that an artist fill a release gap with a raw live album his fans are clamoring for rather than wait umpteen years for the release of only polished studio or overdubbed live recordings and (3) it seems likely that a perfectionist such as Taylor will find something to criticize with all of his old releases--don't take it so hard. (My favorite official Bluesbreakers album remains "Crusade", yet he dismisses his early work as derivative. Whatever . . . By the way, I think the tempo of Laundromat Blues is too fast on that album.)

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It seems straightforward that, by not pursuing the scammers, Taylor encourages this sort of behavior, but doesn't it seem reasonable that he has decided to spend his life outside of a courtroom (even as a plaintiff)? Aside from the disagreeable nature of litigation, the amounts involved or recoverable might not be worth the significant bother.

As for the fans, I would have thought they would understand his not wanting to endorse with his signature the "theft" of his name or work. (By "theft", I mean his not being compensated properly or use of his name or work without his permission.) If someone stole a painting from the painter's home, would you expect the painter to autograph it for the purchaser, even if the purchaser were a "fan"? Even if the technical legal situation is different, isn't it reasonable for Taylor to feel the same way about some of the "unauthorized" or "uncompensated" recordings?

I think it is not reasonable for a famous artist like Taylor that he has decided to spend his life outside of a courtroom - even as a plaintiff. It may sound noble, but in the end it's nothing more than naive and blue-eyed. As a performing artist, you enjoy certain rights, and if you're not willing to defend your rights, you send a clear sign to companies like New Millenium that they don't have to fear any consequences when they exploit your good name for inferior product. If the amounts involved or recoverable might be worth the significant bother or not does not really matter. Money is one aspect, the damage done to your good name another. Once you become a professional musician, you should be prepared to learn that the life of a professional musician also includes certain business aspects, not just playing music.

As for the fans, I would understand his not wanting to endorse the "theft" of his name or work with his signature as long as he's still friendly to those fans and willing to sign other things they bring along. But I heard that in some cases he was not willing to sign anything for those fans who once presented him a "wrong" record or CD, turning his back to them or reacting unfriendly. I cannot accept such behaviour. He should consider that fans usually are not aware of those complex legalities connected with certain releases. More importantly, fans are definitely not responsible for these records. In my book it's not acceptable to treat unsuspecting fans badly just because they hold a "wrong" album under Taylor's nose for a signature. He should adress his anger to the people who are responsible for those records, but not to unsuspecting fans.

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I remember reading an interview with Mick Taylor many years ago where he even stated that he did not like "Stranger In This Town" because, now read this: "It's a bootleg".
.. Stranger In This Town a bootleg??? I think it's a case of an artist taking cash when he needed it - for allowing a sonically substandart recording coming out and after the fact blaming the record company that it's a bootleg, because he did not want to be associated with such a substandart-sounding album.

I don't understand what is inherently wrong with an artist releasing an album and later criticizing it. The truth will set you free.

Taylor calling an album "bootleg" that he once agreed to release has nothing to do with "an artist releasing an album and later criticizing it".

The term "bootleg" implies that the album was released without Talor's participation and authorization - against his will - and consequently accuses the record company (Maze) of acting illegally whereas later "criticizing" an album Taylor once agreed to release is an entirely different thing.

I cannot get enough of his version of Winter on Carla Olson's album. It is amazing, and I find myself askin over and over again........what if...

Now Tucky Buzzard..........why the heck hasn't that album been released on CD yet????

>CD 4 (75:31)

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2 Take A Look At The Guy 2:34
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I remember reading an interview with Mick Taylor many years ago where he even stated that he did not like "Stranger In This Town" because, now read this: "It's a bootleg".
.. Stranger In This Town a bootleg??? I think it's a case of an artist taking cash when he needed it - for allowing a sonically substandart recording coming out and after the fact blaming the record company that it's a bootleg, because he did not want to be associated with such a substandart-sounding album.

I don't understand what is inherently wrong with an artist releasing an album and later criticizing it. The truth will set you free.

Taylor calling an album "bootleg" that he once agreed to release has nothing to do with "an artist releasing an album and later criticizing it".

The term "bootleg" implies that the album was released without Talor's participation and authorization - against his will - and consequently accuses the record company (Maze) of acting illegally whereas later "criticizing" an album Taylor once agreed to release is an entirely different thing.

Lightnin above indicated Taylor does not consider SITT to be a "boot"; that is, an unauthorized recording (as opposed to a lesser quality recording, which is what I thought he meant),


Treating fans with respect: agree
Signing obnoxious material: disagree
Encouraging scammer behavior: agree
Becoming a litigant: disagree

Why do Mick's - and Carla Olson's for that matter - albums seem to stay in print for so little time???

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I cannot get enough of his version of Winter on Carla Olson's album. It is amazing, and I find myself askin over and over again........what if...

Now Tucky Buzzard..........why the heck hasn't that album been released on CD yet????

We should start a petition to get Wyman fired up about a Tucky Buzzard remastering and vault release series. WYMAN IS THE KEY.><

I'm tired, I'm tired of doing what I'm told.
Things are moving way too slow.

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I remember reading an interview with Mick Taylor many years ago where he even stated that he did not like "Stranger In This Town" because, now read this: "It's a bootleg".
.. Stranger In This Town a bootleg??? I think it's a case of an artist taking cash when he needed it - for allowing a sonically substandart recording coming out and after the fact blaming the record company that it's a bootleg, because he did not want to be associated with such a substandart-sounding album.

Can you provide a reference for this statement allegedly made by Taylor ? I don't think I've ever seen this in writing anywhere.

If he did say something to that effect, he probably meant "a registration of a live concert", but the word bootleg could have been an expression he used to indicate he was not entirely happy about not getting paid for it. In that case it would have needed to be a couple of years after the release. I still would like to see proof he used the word bootleg.

The release of Stranger In This Town was not something that Taylor agreed to in exchange for quick cash. He was supposed to receive royalties for it from Maze. Maze didn't really come through with the money they owed him and Taylor did make some statements later on saying he was no longer associated with Maze.
(In this interview for instance: [www.classicbands.com])

It was just an agreement restricted to the one record. Maze did not fullfill their obligations, so Taylor's lawyer went after them and demanded the masters were returned and they stopped pressing it.

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The term "bootleg" implies that the album was released without Taylor's participation and authorization - against his will - and consequently accuses the record company (Maze) of acting illegally whereas later "criticizing" an album Taylor once agreed to release is an entirely different thing.

No, it WAS released with his participation and authorisation. BUT subsequently the record company did not do what they were supposed to. So they were in breach of agreement and WERE acting illegally which explains why Taylor's lawyer was successful when a lawsuit was filed against Maze.

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I remember reading an interview with Mick Taylor many years ago where he even stated that he did not like "Stranger In This Town" because, now read this: "It's a bootleg".
How come that it's still openly sold everywhere?

Apparently you have not noticed that Stranger In This Town has been out of print for a long time ? Taylor owns the masters. Apart from second-hand copies, you will not be able to buy it anywhere unless Taylor decides to re-issue it.

Just from reading some background on this one case you may start to realise what a draining experience it can be to deal with record labels, getting accurate accounting from them or having to hire lawyers to demand payment. I don't really understand why you would want to blame Taylor for the wrongdoing of others.

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side".
- Hunter S. Thompson -


Also, are you really implying that Taylor should be kept hostage at the venue until he has signed every single LP, bootleg or CD he played on. That's quite an entertaining notion.

You will not accept that he refuses to sign a CD that was put out without his consent ? Why not. You don't think he should have the liberty to decide for himself what he wants to sign ?
Has it occurred to you that Taylor is not obliged to sign anything when he performs somewhere. Autographs are not included in the ticket price, it's a favour he does to the fans.
I have worked with many big names and let me tell you something: I have never met anyone that is so patient and kind to his fans. Artists that can't hold a candle to Taylor do not even give their fans the time of day.
Taylor, on the other hand, will go out of his way to be friendly to people that want to shake his hand / get his autograph / ask him a question. He's been known to allow hundreds of fans to meet him even when he doesn't feel like it and would rather go straight back to the hotel. He's often come off stage with a migraine headache and has still signed their piles of vinyl for them despite the fact that some people behave like jerks and keep flashing cameras in his face after he has already asked them calmly not to.



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I would really love to see him in concert. I hope he comes back stateside soon.

"Stranger In This Town" long out of print? Check amazon.de, it's still available from SPV Germany. At least in Germany, but probably all over Europe. If it's still in the shops is a different thing. It depends on if the album still sells or not. SPV originally licensed the album from Maze, so my guess is that the licensing deal was transferred to Taylor after he cancelled the deal with Maze.

However, if it's true that Maze did not pay him I fully agree with Taylor and his "bootleg" remark was justified, at least at the time when the album was still on the Maze label.

Am I really "implying that Taylor should be kept hostage at the venue until he has signed every single LP, bootleg or CD he played on" ? Nonsense. You're turning my words around. Read again what I've said.



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Voodoo - Carla can only put out a few thousand CD's at a time, she told me the
recording of: Too Hot For Snakes - bankrupted her & her husband for a while.

They had to put up most of the $$, recording equipment, studio time, paying the
musicians, Taylor, Ian Mac, etc. for the mini tour of the west coast.

Guess it cost's alot to do something like that! Taylor's in the same boat..

MLC

That's insane!!! I tell ya that album - Ring of Truth - has been one of the very best finds I've unearthed in a looooooooooooong time. I was so excited to pick up the rest of her stuff, but I'll be lookin for em used, which is really tragic.

Yeah - Taylor's tone on: Within An Ace is awesome!!!

Carla did mention also that one day she would like to release the 1st show
from that live gig she did with Mick T. at the Roxy in the early 90's.

The one that got released was the 2nd show. Taylor was more "animated" during
the 1st show, which was the one I was at!!! We all fell off our chairs when
she announced they were doing a Stones song: SWAY!!!!!

Never have I seen Taylor fingers "flying" on his Guitar neck like they were that
night during the solo!!!

MLC