this thread is sure boring . it makes me want to slzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

gstone Wrote:
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> Hell, no! It's not even close to boring. But
> something tells me you're pretty bored - and quite
> envyous - at home... Right?
> We're all enjoying the shows, the different
> versions of the songs we're being served. And once
> they get back into "traditional Stones territory",
> the set lists will contain extra goodies for the
> hard core fans who know even the least known
> songs... And who can remember in which shows they
> were playd.

No I am not bored and yes I am sitting at home reading reviews and looking over posts. Envious, not at all. I do mean that, I have no reason to suppress my thoughts. I'm sure there is excitement at the shows but nothing is changing people.

So thats what makes it exciting "different versions of songs"? Really how different are these songs?

How about different songs? An acoustic set, a blues set, a Chuck Berry set, 2 or 3 or 4 more songs instead of 1 less, a guitar solo, an instrumental, a medley, a request, a change of the same routine. These are a few options can you think of a few?

The Sicilian Wrote:
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> gstone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Hell, no! It's not even close to boring. But
> > something tells me you're pretty bored - and
> quite
> > envyous - at home... Right?
> > We're all enjoying the shows, the different
> > versions of the songs we're being served. And
> once
> > they get back into "traditional Stones
> territory",
> > the set lists will contain extra goodies for
> the
> > hard core fans who know even the least known
> > songs... And who can remember in which shows
> they
> > were playd.
>
> No I am not bored and yes I am sitting at home
> reading reviews and looking over posts. Envious,
> not at all. I do mean that, I have no reason to
> suppress my thoughts. I'm sure there is
> excitement at the shows but nothing is changing
> people.
>
> So thats what makes it exciting "different
> versions of songs"? Really how different are these
> songs?
>
> How about different songs? An acoustic set, a
> blues set, a Chuck Berry set, 2 or 3 or 4 more
> songs instead of 1 less, a guitar solo, an
> instrumental, a medley, a request, a change of the
> same routine. These are a few options can you
> think of a few?

No need to alter the structure of the victory lap to satisfy someone who is staying home and reading the reviews. When that gets boring to me I stop reading for awhile. But I have seen shows where a band plays the exact same setlist 3 nights in a row but yet somehow they are still different shows and experiences, go figure. Reading reviews of the same band night after night even if they change 10 songs and debut something different every night (ala Springsteen 03) also gets boring and redundant after a while. I am starting to think the only one who is really boring here is YOU.

the guys are only boring if you are a "nerd" that can afford to jet set arround the globe following them and going to every other show. Me - i have family commitments and bills to pay which means i cant afford to go to one show this tour - £150 quid is a lot of cash these days but given half the chance - i would love to see them and i know it would be even better than the 6 other gigs since 95 that ive been to!
If your bored - then youve wore the novelty out!

Dog

Helterskelter

check out albums like 'Aftermath','Flowers' and 'Decembers Children'...even older and with a guy name Jones-LOL.

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> Gazza, SO TRUE, how about SAINT OF ME, OUT OF
> CONTROL, !/2 OF BIGGER BANG, LOVE IS STRONG, I GO
> WILD, etc... A few years back I put a full 80 min
> CD together with the best from BRIDGES, VOODOO,
> and STEEL WHEELS and it was fantstic, as good as
> the older stuff.... They don't believe in their
> newer work, damn shame.....

The problem is just that. They give up on new stuff and refuse to play anything much below an A-list hit of old.

When the band retires that will be one of the biggest criticism of their tours. Their outright refusal to experiment and stray especially in the later years. From 1967 to 1970 they passed up on playing in the major festivals with the exception of Altamont which had the makings of being great. Their playing was awesome. But we all know how that turned out.

HOORAY FOR DOUGHBOYUK!

sweetcharmedlife Wrote:
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> timbernardis Wrote:
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> > No, never, I love it all. Yes, some shows are
> > better than others but I enjoy just watching
> them
> > on stage regardless of the music.
> >
> > Plus, this tour, there are such a variety of
> new
> > things for me personally that have never
> happened
> > before -- going to 25 plus shows, going to
> Europe
> > and several countries, being part of multiple
> > Stones fan clubs and getting to know a lot of
> > great folks,
> >
> > getting to meet some of the Stones (Ronnie,
> > Charlie), going "FOS" in Europe which mostly
> does
> > not exist in the States any more, taking boat
> > loads of photos, especially in Europe where
> they
> > dont care and dont try to stop you,
> >
> > seeing them in a small place (Beacon), going to
> a
> > tour opener (Boston) and closer (London),
> > calling/texting in the set list for posting
> > (Missoula),
> >
> > going to a lot of historic venues -- Fenway,
> > Hollywood Bowl, MSG, Olympiastadion in Berlin,
> > seeing them in their home town of London,
> seeing
> > them in places they have never played -- Regina
> > and especially Missoula (first time in my state
> > ever),
> >
> > seeing them in one of the fabled Hispanic venues
> -
> > Barcelona, seeing them in the middle of open
> > fields with trees - Werchter, Nijmegen,
> following
> > them from show to show (6 of the first 7 in
> Europe
> > 07).
> >
> > I love you all -- the Stones, my family, the
> great
> > Gazza, Beast, sweetcharmedlife, open-g,
> stnesfrk
> > frank, and especially the German ladies who
> have
> > helped me out immeasurably, faithfully, and
> > seemingly without end - Iris and Steffi. I know
> I
> > am leaving folks out, sorry, maybe will add
> > later.
> >
> > But most of all, the greatest experience on
> this
> > tour has been THE REVELATION OF THE PLEXIGLASS
> AND
> > SPREADING THE GOOD WORD ABOUT ITS OMNIPOTENCE
> AND
> > DIVINITY.
> >
> > And you know what folks -- returning to the
> > original theme of this thread from which I have
> > deviated -- I NEVER TIRE OF WATCHING THE
> > PLEXIGLASS EVERY NIGHT, AT EVERY SHOW, A
> > CONTINUOUS SOURCE OF (SPIRITUAL) INSPIRATION
> AND
> > EXCITEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > The Plexiglass, YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > theplexiglass
>
>
> Ahhh,Plexi. You bring a tear to my cold hard
> eye.lol.............Seriously though man. I live
> vicaroiusly through you, bv and all others going
> to the shows. You are indeed great
> FANS.........I'm still kicking myself a bit for
> not pulling the trigger and going to London. The
> last few years have been the first time when I had
> the means to travel to different cities to see the
> Stones and I made it to 5 different cities in the
> US on the ABB tour. So between that and having
> just found this fan site in Oct. I am Stones
> rejuvanated and selfishly hope for another trip
> back across the pond. Keep on Rockin Tim.


Thanks so much for the kind words. I noticed your last statement.

If you are at all thinking of coming man, book your flight now! Just last week, I found cheaper fares than the ones I booked in March, seriously. And you can always get a ticket to the shows. Just do it!!

Don't live vicariously, just LIVE, man and don't wish you lived for the rest of your life!! Hope to see you in London.

Tim

"When the band retires that will be one of the biggest criticism of their tours"

I am sure most people who have seen them will be thankful for the experience but it wouldn't surprise if you were still complaiing about it.

I would think this tour is getting boring for the people that just sit in front of there computer,DAY AFTER DAY! looking for something new about the tour it aint going to happen people unless you make something happen! That means get off your ass and go see a couple of show's and stop looking for this web site to get your fix! capice', other then that thank you tim for your kind word's,and i've had a blast at every show to date,and everyone involved that i've met god bless! it's been wonderful!ROCK ON STONES AND EVERYONE INVOLED AND THANX BV FOR THE SITE!

I hope it's getting better in germany again! F**king boring setlist in eastern europe! Only like a greatest hits album... if they play it in hamburg, i want my money back!

If you consider all the songs played the recent years, never played before (stray cat blues, she was hot, she's so cold, learning the game, get up stand up, night time, I'll go crazy, sway, Mr Pitiful etc... + the news songs + the licks tour with 3 small venues, arenas and stadiums during the same tour, I do not agree when you say the band is doing the same show for years.

What I need is listen to rock n'roll mainly. Pearl Jam, the Who and others just play on stage with no fireworks and it does work. The Stones bring more with a supershow, surprises. And remains the best band I have ever seen on stage. Each tour I say to myself "this is it. It's over now they are too old, tired (the thing I thought when I saw the 2 London gigs in London in 99); But they are NOT !! at all !! again this year they blowed my mind with excellent shows.

Just one regret : not enough guests on stage to avoid a kind of routine and try some new versions and sing songs of other artists.
If you watch the Atlantic city 89 show, Miami 94, St Louis 98 the guests brought a fresh touch and what a surprise for the crowd !
U2 was supposed to play with them on july 1st 95 when the storm arrived and changed the plans (regrets !)

I wish I would see Sonny Rollins coming on stage to play waiting on a friend, such a lovely song !

the future ? I would see smallest venues, some accoustic parts, some guests, some improvisations "what would you like to listen to ?"

Dan Wrote:
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> "When the band retires that will be one of the
> biggest criticism of their tours"
>
> I am sure most people who have seen them will be
> thankful for the experience but it wouldn't
> surprise if you were still complaiing about it.

They have been on tour for over 40 years, if you have not seen them by now then you are truly a very casual fan or a puppy.

Being critical of their setlist and show is a right of long time fans, or anyone who pays to see them, just as is kissing their ass is for people afraid to speak up or clueless beyond radio hits.

no way - i haven't been to SO many shows like a lot of you (i would if i could!) but i've been to quite a few - and the word boring would never cross my mind - even those warhorses sound fabulous every time

The Sicilian Wrote:
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> Dan Wrote:
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> > "When the band retires that will be one of the
> > biggest criticism of their tours"
> >
> > I am sure most people who have seen them will
> be
> > thankful for the experience but it wouldn't
> > surprise if you were still complaiing about it.
>
> They have been on tour for over 40 years, if you
> have not seen them by now then you are truly a
> very casual fan or a puppy.
>
> Being critical of their setlist and show is a
> right of long time fans, or anyone who pays to see
> them, just as is kissing their ass is for people
> afraid to speak up or clueless beyond radio hits.

30 times and no problems with the setlist. Never get sick of Start Me Up or JJF or Sympathy and usually get a few gems. Always a unique experience unlike reading a setlist on a message board which is always a similiar experience no matter what they play.

No its not a boring tour....but its not a BB tour either...some nights they do lesser new ones than on the licks tour..babeee Dont stop!!!

This it is BB

Blah blah iggy pop

I thought the plexiglass routine was a sign of less predictable setlists.