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Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tropical_Disease ()
Date: April 25, 2007 23:00

Could someone please post the tabs for Wild horses in open G? Cheers!

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: jhat111 ()
Date: April 25, 2007 23:43

it's in nashville tuning.....google the tabs

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: April 25, 2007 23:55

I think Keith's always done "Wild Horses" live in open G. He might have played it in standard before, I dunno. But every version I've heard/seen them do, he's playing in open G.

Would love to hear a version from '71. Hope a recording surfaces someday from one of those early '71 English Tour shows where they were (supposedly) doing "Wild Horses" and "Can't You Hear Me Knocking".


Such a shame that only 3 (4 if you count the Marquee but that was two weeks after the end of the tour and not actually a part of it) recordings exist from that '71 English tour.

BTW, didn't he use a capo for the Knebworth performance of "Wild Horses"? Think maybe they went up a whole step for that one.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 26, 2007 00:27

Over the years Keith has changed and played around with the phrasings so much. I do not believe that originally he plays it in Open G. In the Stripped video (and of course the CD) he plays it in Open G for sure. He has begun to do a wonderful phrasing on the Am chord; the chord that goes under " (Am)you know I can't (C)let you..(D/G)slide through my hands(D)"
Tropical disease if you go to YouTube and just key in "Wild Horses TAB" or 'instructional video' or maybe just "Wild Horses" there are about 4-5 guys who sit there and show you every chord. This guy with the baseball cap who does many different songs is actually very good.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: April 26, 2007 00:38

ChelseaDrugstore Wrote:
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> Over the years Keith has changed and played around
> with the phrasings so much. I do not believe that
> originally he plays it in Open G.

I wonder that myself as well. I don't think the original guitar parts are in open G.

Mathijs

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Date: April 26, 2007 01:08

One 12 strings in open G and one nashville tuning. Probably more.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: April 26, 2007 02:35

I don't think the original on Sticky Fingers was done in open G. There might be a guitar in there somewhere in open G tuning, and I know there's the nashville tuning but I think the original is in standard.

I've thought this for years but I saw a tab in a guitar magazine that claimed there was a guitar in open G on the recording. But who knows. Whoever tabbed it could have made a mistake or maybe they saw him do it live in open G and just assumed that's what he used.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 26, 2007 03:35

The reason I don;t think it is open G is becasue of the minor chords. The very prominent Bm and Am in Wild Horses sound completely different when played in Open G. they have a very full sound; lately Keith even adds the D note to beef it up in the Am, And on Sticky Fingers that are some straight minor chords.
There is the national strung guitar. To me that one is more like gravy; with the overtones etc.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Date: April 26, 2007 10:19

He plays standard tuning on Sticky Fingers. Mick Taylor plays the nashville tuned guitar. The electric guitar (w the solos) is also in standard tuning.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: April 26, 2007 11:17

If it was first penned in open G or standard I don't know, but there are quite a few layers of guitars on the studio version, and one sounds open G to me.

The C/F part, for me, is where you hear the open g more clearly. But also all the extra chords that are played when passing from one chord to the next (like the D between the C and G, or the C between the D and Bm - I am sure they have a name in music books) are quite unusual in all previous works in standard tuning, but are common since Keith (or Mick) started using open G (basically he just goes up and down the neck).

C

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tropical_Disease ()
Date: April 26, 2007 12:12

how would you play a G chord in open G with a capo on the 2nd?

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Borna ()
Date: April 26, 2007 12:16

It would be A then.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: April 26, 2007 12:49

Tropical_Disease Wrote:
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> how would you play a G chord in open G with a capo
> on the 2nd?

Barrè at 12th fret?

C

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: April 26, 2007 12:54

By the way, I know this was discussed before, but I cannot remember what the answer was: in the 75 version of wild horses did keith use a capo on the 1st fret or is it my boot that is running fast?

C

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Date: April 26, 2007 14:14

2nd fret on Knebworth

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 26, 2007 14:25

liddas Wrote:
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> Tropical_Disease Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > how would you play a G chord in open G with a
> capo
> > on the 2nd?
>
> Barrè at 12th fret?
>
> C
You could also play a bastardized position. You do as if you are playing a Fmaj7 witha 9th. (E string - 3rd fret, Bstring - 1st fret, Gstring - 2nd fret, D string 3 rd fret) the low bass strings would still stay A and E, so mute them.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: April 26, 2007 14:26

This has been discussed here before only some months ago. I was always of the opinion that the song was in standard tuning because of the minor chords. However, the chords never quite rang the way they did on the recorded version.

Somebody (His Majesty I think?) said Keith's guitar was in open G. I tried it and to be honest it did have the same voicing/quality. Therefore, after having tried it in open G, I would have to concur that it is in fact played in open tuning.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tropical_Disease ()
Date: April 26, 2007 18:08

cheers!

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 26, 2007 18:59

What is kind of intersting about specifically the minor chords for Wild Horses is that Bminor is the relative minor to G major. So it is only the note G that has to be chnged to form the Bminor. The D string and the B string are optional. All 3 strings that are tuned to D in Open G could possibly be hit in the 4th fret too for the F#, OR they can be left open because D figures in Bmionor too. It looks as if Keith hits the 4th fret on the D, then the 4th on the Gstring (to get the note cool smiley and the 3rd on the B string to get the note D. In other words just a regular B minor chord with the E string left open, ringing the D. very easy.
What I love though is that now he just slides the whole thing down 2 frets for the A minor. Which is actually not a correct A minor because he has the D ringing on the Hi E string (so that could be hit on 2nd fret too), and the low A string still rings with G (to give it the minor 7th, which is no big deal..).
That's how I would play it.
But I would still be willing to put a cool dollar down that SF is regular tuning.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 26, 2007 19:21

ChelseaDrugstore Wrote:
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> What is kind of intersting about specifically the
> minor chords for Wild Horses is that Bminor is the
> relative minor to G major. So it is only the note
> G that has to be chnged to form the Bminor. The D
> string and the B string are optional. All 3
> strings that are tuned to D in Open G could
> possibly be hit in the 4th fret too for the F#, OR
> they can be left open because D figures in Bmionor
> too. It looks as if Keith hits the 4th fret on the
> D, then the 4th on the Gstring (to get the note cool smiley
> and the 3rd on the B string to get the note D. In
> other words just a regular B minor chord with the
> E string left open, ringing the D. very easy.
> What I love though is that now he just slides the
> whole thing down 2 frets for the A minor. Which is
> actually not a correct A minor because he has the
> D ringing on the Hi E string (so that could be hit
> on 2nd fret too), and the low A string still rings
> with G (to give it the minor 7th, which is no big
> deal..).
> That's how I would play it.
> But I would still be willing to put a cool dollar
> down that SF is regular tuning.


chrise-on-a-bike, I don't get half of what you're saying - just play the bugger.
and if you want to play it higher, for vocal reasons - just put a capo on the second fret.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 26, 2007 23:04

LOL, that is why I try to stay away from tabbing online. It always ends up sounding like that.
But didn't this whole thign start out by someone asking how to play it? My point being is that in OpenG you can still play it the same way.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 26, 2007 23:33

>>My point being is that in OpenG you can still play it the same way.<<

Yep, you got your point.

here's our version (Stikkyfingers and me) playing in open G.
[www.esnips.com]

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: April 26, 2007 23:57

Tropical_Disease Wrote:
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> how would you play a G chord in open G with a capo
> on the 2nd?


I understand why you ask this, but when they did it with the capo, they did it in the key of A, not G. So the whole song was transposed up a full step.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tropical_Disease ()
Date: April 27, 2007 00:46

Tumblin_Dice_07 Wrote:
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> Tropical_Disease Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > how would you play a G chord in open G with a
> capo
> > on the 2nd?
>
>
> I understand why you ask this, but when they did
> it with the capo, they did it in the key of A, not
> G. So the whole song was transposed up a full
> step.

Arghh that explains alot thanks.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: April 27, 2007 04:02

Tropical_Disease Wrote:
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>
> Arghh that explains alot thanks.


Yeah no problem. People were tryin to answer you but I don't think they understood why you asked.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: April 27, 2007 11:02

If you are talking of the 75 version, does this mean that my boot is actually running slow?

C

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: April 28, 2007 00:06

liddas Wrote:
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> If you are talking of the 75 version, does this
> mean that my boot is actually running slow?
>



We're talking about the Knebworth '76 version being in the key of A. The '75 version was played in G. If he used a capo on any '75 versions, I don't know about it.

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 28, 2007 00:38

Sometimes I wonder about the pre-tuner days when I see Keith tuning with that little squeaker in his mouth. "beep beep"

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Wild horse in open G? (Knebworth)
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: April 28, 2007 18:04

Wild Horses Bridges To Babylon DVD version with Dave Mathews

(OPEN G TUNING)
(Ignore 6th string)
Intro:
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
D--5-------------------------------5--------------------------------
B--3---------------1---------------3-----------------1--------------
G-------------------------------------------------------------------
D------------------2---------------------------------2--------------
G------------------2---------------------------------2--------------
D-------------------------------------------------------------------
/ / / / / /
Palm it really quick when your doing the up and down strums.
D----5--------------------------------------------------------------
B----3--------------------------------------------------------------
G-------------------------------------------------------------------
D-------------------------------------------------------------------
G-------------------------------------------------------------------
D-------------------------------------------------------------------
Verse:

/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
D---5------------5-------------5--------------5---------------------
B---3------------3-------------3--------------3---------------------
G-------------------------------------------------------------------
D---4--------------------------4------------------------------------
G---4--------------------------4------------------------------------
D-------------------------------------------------------------------

/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / (Repeat 2x) \\/
D-----------------------------7-------------------------------------
B-1-------5----------7--------9--7----------------------------------
G---------5----------7--------7--7----------------------------------
D-2-------5----------7--------8--7----------------------------------
G-2-------5----------7--------7--7----------------------------------
D-------------------------------------------------------------------

Chorus: Wild Horses Couldn\'t Drag Me Away..
|
2x \\|/
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
D-------------------------------------------------------------------
B--1--------5-------7----7-9--7---------0-------11--------5-5-6-5---
G-----------5-------7----7-7--7---------0-------11--------5-5-5-5---
D--2--------5-------7----7-8--7---------0-------11--------5-5-7-5---
G--2--------5-------7----7-7--7---------0-------11--------5-5-5-5---
D-------------------------------------------------------------------


\"This is The Part where The Solo starts....I dont know The Solo\"

Repeat 4x..(End on X55550)
/ / / / / / / / / / (Strum slowly on they 5-3 Part)
D-----------------------|--------5---------0s--0--0--0--0--------
B---5-------6-----------|--------3-------------------------------
G---5-------5-----------|------------------4s--2--0--2--0--------
D---5-------7-----------|----------------------------------------
G---5-------5-----------|----------------------------------------
D-----------------------|----------------------------------------
Let ring ^ ^Let ring again
End:

D----------------------------------------------------------------
B----5-----------------------------------------------------------
G----5-----------------------------------------------------------
D----5-----------------------------------------------------------
G----5-----------------------------------------------------------
D----------------------------------------------------------------

Intro
Verse 2x
Chorus 2x
Verse 2x
Chorus 2x
Solo Part
Verse 2x
Chorus 4x

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Shattered !!!
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