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What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: lazy-slob ()
Date: April 1, 2007 22:25

I can't hear any difference. What's unique about it?

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: April 1, 2007 22:41

i dont have it any more....lost it, but had it back when it came out..and if i remember right..it's a different mix with a little less guitar snarl on it. If memory serves me right, Bob Clearmountain mixed all of Some Girls except BTMMR, and it was released due to time constraints with the tour. The promo version is actually mixed by Bob I think.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: April 1, 2007 22:41

if someone has it, please post it.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: guy ()
Date: April 2, 2007 18:37

Yes I used to have this version, it had a lovely black sleeve with a picture of Keith with a bedoiun scarf wrapped around his head. A & B side were both BTMMR, 1 stereo, 1 mono. The version, as I remember had a very noticeably different mix, with much steelier guitar, in fact the whole version was kind of rockier.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: stone-relics ()
Date: April 2, 2007 19:26

Its a totally different take, different guitar parts and different vocal track with extra verses. One version Mono, one stereo.

JR

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: turnersmemo ()
Date: April 2, 2007 21:20

Bashlets Wrote:
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> if someone has it, please post it.


You can find it here: [www.iorr.org]

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: April 3, 2007 00:32

Just picked up another copy from a private collection
a few days ago...Mint condition....Has never been played....Nice





ROCKMAN

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: lazy-slob ()
Date: April 3, 2007 01:54

Is it a DIFFERENT TAKE??? Never heard of that. Is it really true, stone-relics???

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 3, 2007 02:51

It's fun to listen to both versions back to back.
I adjusted the pitch of the promo version to -50 cent.
amazing how lively the guitars sound, plus - you can hear a slide guitar pretty loud.
I don't know if that slide is on the LP version or if it's only burried in the mix.
gonna listen again tomorrow - too late now.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: April 3, 2007 04:35

The promo version is more polished and sounds like it has additional guitars. There are minor lyrical differences as Keith sings something like "I gotta move and you can't come" at one point.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: April 3, 2007 04:36

Is it sped up a bit?

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 3, 2007 16:55

schillid Wrote:
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> Is it sped up a bit?

Well at least the version Turnersmemo gave a link to download, was sped up.

That version obviously came from a vinyl single - so maybe just the record player wasn't right on pitch - when digitalized.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: stone-relics ()
Date: April 3, 2007 17:10

Yes, completely different to LP version.

Some of the basic tracks may be the same, but guitars, especially the steel and Ronnie's lead are different.

JR

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 3, 2007 17:23

Indeed, I think the basic tracks are the same.
Even the slide guitar is there, but burried in the mix.
Reason for that could be, you have more headroom while mixing and mastering for a 45 rpm single, hence more dynamic range.
Also it's a stand alone and you don't have comparing songs around it like on LP.
A real different track or overdub is Keith's singing - well thats quite obvious, innit?

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 3, 2007 18:18

Here you can listen to the difference of both versions.
[www.esnips.com])

The Lp version has a cut before the the bridge part. The bridge comes in earlyer.
Both versions run in sync up this snippet.

Lp version is panned hard left - promo hard right.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-04-03 18:22 by open-g.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: iamwaiting ()
Date: April 8, 2007 01:55

The Promo version that has been posted by Guðni Gunnarsson is almost 1/2 step up (almost G# versus G) compared to the Some Girls version, so it is about 8% faster than Some Girls version. I don't have an original to transfer from vinyl to see if 1) the promo vinyl version is actually same speed as Some Girls version or, 2) if the vinyl Promo is actually sped up versus Some Girls version. Even with the extended guitar "solo" and extra lyrics here and there, the sped up the Promo version posted is 11 seconds shorter at 3:14 versus 3:25 on Some Girls.

After Keith sings, "Oh let me walk before they make me run" it fades out on the Promo version whereas there is an additional 30 seconds of guitar work at the end of the Some Girls version.

Does anyone have a Promo version that matches the speed of the Some Girls version? Is the vinyl version sped up (to make it more lively etc.) or was there a speed error when someone transferred the Promo version to mp3?

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: it's_all_wrong ()
Date: April 8, 2007 03:00

The LP version sounds like it had some of the rough edges smoothed out.

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 8, 2007 03:31

it's_all_wrong Wrote:
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> The LP version sounds like it had some of the
> rough edges smoothed out.

smoothed out, eh - You could say it got over produced.
It's such a shame those edgy guitars & bass got flattened B/c they really jump at you (from the promo)

Re: What's unique to the promo version of Before They Make Me Run?
Posted by: it's_all_wrong ()
Date: April 8, 2007 05:31

iamwaiting Wrote:
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> The Promo version that has been posted by Guðni
> Gunnarsson is almost 1/2 step up (almost G# versus
> G) compared to the Some Girls version, so it is
> about 8% faster than Some Girls version. I don't
> have an original to transfer from vinyl to see if
> 1) the promo vinyl version is actually same speed
> as Some Girls version or, 2) if the vinyl Promo is
> actually sped up versus Some Girls version. Even
> with the extended guitar "solo" and extra lyrics
> here and there, the sped up the Promo version
> posted is 11 seconds shorter at 3:14 versus 3:25
> on Some Girls.
>
> After Keith sings, "Oh let me walk before they
> make me run" it fades out on the Promo version
> whereas there is an additional 30 seconds of
> guitar work at the end of the Some Girls version.
>
> Does anyone have a Promo version that matches the
> speed of the Some Girls version? Is the vinyl
> version sped up (to make it more lively etc.) or
> was there a speed error when someone transferred
> the Promo version to mp3?

This can be fixed by yourself using programs like Audacity. I corrected the speed, and it sounds exactly like the SG version in terms of pitch. It is 3:22, so it is about the same length as the SG version, even with the faded-out coda.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-04-08 07:23 by it's_all_wrong.



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