Live With Me!

Silly Love Songs.

Always...especially Surphase Tension, HOT F***ing Tuna...

JR

NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
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> Here are some standout bass lines that come to
> mind but not in any particular ranking order:
>
> My Generation -The Who
> Money -Pink Floyd
> 2000 light years -Stones
> Rain -Beatles
> My Sharona -The Knack
> Fame -Bowie
> Roadhouse Blues & L.A. Woman -Doors
>
> Now let's have everyone rank them!
> Hope these selections tickle your earbuds and
> create groovy sensations


"The Real Me" comes to mind. Some of the best lead bass ever.

Chris Squire of YES - Roundabout

Don't forget the pick!

Besides the obvious musical difference between BW and DJ, there one point that appears to me each time more blatant when listening.

BW = old school, playing with a pick, the sound is more precise, but in the same time more crystal-feel. The pick leaves more room to the harmonics, ie the other tunes wrapping the fundamental tone

DJ = also called the "Munch", is a heavy finger players. Only uses a pick when playing the big hits, to quote him, because he has to stick withe the original feel. The problem, when using your fingers, is you wipe off a lot of harmonics. Thus, the sound has less spirit,

I m sure The Ox never used a pick and he has much spirit in his playing. I think its the type of music and the caliber of the player.

I Wish I Never Met You Wrote:
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> NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here are some standout bass lines that come to
> > mind but not in any particular ranking order:
> >
> > My Generation -The Who
> > Money -Pink Floyd
> > 2000 light years -Stones
> > Rain -Beatles
> > My Sharona -The Knack
> > Fame -Bowie
> > Roadhouse Blues & L.A. Woman -Doors
> >
> > Now let's have everyone rank them!
> > Hope these selections tickle your earbuds and
> > create groovy sensations
>
>
> "The Real Me" comes to mind. Some of the best
> lead bass ever.

Good point, great song and probably the best lead bass ever. The bass solo in My Generation is pretty wicked, too.

open-g Wrote:
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> A man was on an expedition with his native guide.
>
> The first night out they heard the beat of war
> drums from a nearby warrior tribe.
> The man told the guide he was afraid.
> The guide said, "No need to fear as long as drums
> beat."
> A while later the drums stopped, the guide
> screamed, "Now is time to fear!"
> The man asked, "Why?"
> The guide replied, "Bass Solo!!!"

Good one!

What do you call a bass player without a girlfriend? Homeless!

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The Joker Wrote:
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> Don't forget the pick!
>
> Besides the obvious musical difference between BW
> and DJ, there one point that appears to me each
> time more blatant when listening.
>
> BW = old school, playing with a pick, the sound is
> more precise, but in the same time more
> crystal-feel. The pick leaves more room to the
> harmonics, ie the other tunes wrapping the
> fundamental tone
>
> DJ = also called the "Munch", is a heavy finger
> players. Only uses a pick when playing the big
> hits, to quote him, because he has to stick withe
> the original feel. The problem, when using your
> fingers, is you wipe off a lot of harmonics. Thus,
> the sound has less spirit,

interesting observations...also stylistically...darryl dosen't do the staggering, stopping, crescendo climbing thing, really original punctuation and phrasing...driving driving driving with charlie like that...
darryl just dosen't have that.
i was recently on a htw jag for example; and was listening to many different versions from many different periods and performances...some audio/vid, some just audio...boots as well as official live releases...
and the basic power and thrust of the thing has no real comparison in energy and propulsion for me...seems really ovbvious, because bill is every bit as distinct as keith in his groundbreaking style and approach to rock and roll.

The sound of a Rickenbacker 4001 bass always make me happy. Unfortunately there´s very few bassists playing it nowadays. Well, Lemmy in Motörhead still uses it. Others who really let the Rickenbacker sing was Chris Squire of Yes and Geddy Lee of Rush.

Gentle Giant's Ray Shulman played on a Fender Precision '64. Whether you like their music or not (but liking it helps of course!), it is an admirable sonic thing to behold. It's not at all a harmonically normal approach AFA sticking to the fundamental, etc. (and even sometimes rather abnormal!) But it is very prominent (in the mix also) without ever getting in the way of the other players... because its choise of notes and rhythm accents are so odd...

I also find Jethro Tull's Jeffrey Hammond to be a hugely underrated player, for different reasons.

What bass player? I think it's hilarious that they photoshopped BW out of this photo.




IORR............but I like it!



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Looks like the Kremlin parade pictures in the Stalin times. Time coming, the comrades used to whipe off some dissidents heads.

... stand-out?? politican/spoonful

Has Mick Jagger ever done any melodic bass lines on any songs from A Bigger Bang?

~Ben

Melody. That's what's been overlooked in this post. Bill was an extremely talented melodist. Dandelion, Satisfaction, Harlem Shuffle, this is a master at work. I remember Charlie being quoted as saying he never realized how good Bill was until he stopped playing and the whole bottom fell out of the band.

Watched Hampton '81 and Bill is amazing. Then I watched Stones at the Max ('89) and I can't hear him (in the mix) pushing the band as he used to.

And let's never forget what a great melodic bass player McCartney was. Dear Prudence, and on and on and on.

Just compare the Rolling Stones with Bill Wyman to the so-called Rolling Stones with Darryl Jones. Two different bands.

Bill's bass playing was an integral part of the Stones sound forged at its core by him, Charlie and Keith. When they were on, magic happened. Without Bill, a vital element to Stones sound was lost so in this case the bassist made a HUGE difference, at least in my view...

When Taylor and Richards play bass.

When does the bass player make a difference?
When he brings along some serious amps.

as a bass player the two things that jump out to me are bill's live playing in the 70s (especially 72-73) ... he does all sorts of runs that aren't on the albums and really baffle me.

and i love the miss you bass line... the prototypical disco bassline which has one of the best melodies for bass ever.

Bob Dylan sums it up pretty well : "I'm not saying they don't keep going, but they need Bill. Without him they're a funk band. They'll be the real Rolling Stones when they get Bill back."

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Listen to the bass lines on Too Much Blood. The melody played by the bass is holding the song.







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Wyman's bass on Satisfaction is pure genius.

Lou Reed
Sweet Jane
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Koen
Wyman's bass on Satisfaction is pure genius.

Can't argue with that. A great counter melody to the main riff which Bill could have mirrored but did not...

I'm sorry but this kind of question makes me mad; to even answer "The Real Me" to this, is the same as saying the only time the guitar makes a difference (in the Stones) is "Sympathy for the Devil". I.e. when the guitar is solo-ing front and center. The bass is the foundation; a house won't have a beautiful, elegant dining room without a basement to sit on. Much of a bass's function is implied.
Keith and Jagger have spoken w/o much respect about Wyman, but they have always known how vital those parts are.

When does the bass player make a difference?


When he leaves the band.