Gazza Wrote:
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> just got it thanks..LOL
>
> The thing with the club/theatre shows thats worth
> bearing in mind is this - its generally accepted
> that the Stones are going to tour from early June
> to late August, which is almost 3 months. However,
> relatively few rumours have emerged of actual
> cities and venues that theyre going to play, and
> what has been rumoured has generally been outdoor
> shows in June and July.
>
> I personally find it very hard to believe that the
> Stones are going to be able to play stadiums for 3
> months and fill them at such short notice,
> especially with the prices they charge, the fact
> that they toured last summer and the small matter
> of every other act having already beaten them to
> the punch by announcing a tour - so playing a few
> indoor shows to fill out the remaining dates makes
> more sense logistically, even if it does go
> against their normal obsession of making the most
> money they can get, by whatever means. Especially
> as there were several rumours of theatre shows for
> the various US legs and they all turned out to be
> fruitless (even the 3 theatre shows they played in
> New York werent 'regular' tour shows in that you
> couldnt get tickets on TM presales as you could on
> Licks)

Indeed, this does make good sense. There's also a couple of other factors in play here I think. Granted, they do exhibit an obsession with making the most money they can, but for the reasons you've outlined, it is somewhat unlikely that they're going to try and fill the better part of three months with nothing but stadium shows. So, the next best thing to do, is quite possibly fill SOME of those dates with smaller indoor shows. The shows might not necessarily be particularly remunerative, but the significant fringe benefit is that it would ingratiate them enormously to the European fanbase. It cannot be lost on them, and I'm sure it isn't, that within the confines of the ABB tour to date - Europe has not had its fair share. Not by any means. Ronnie summed it up in some interview or other last year in which he simply said "Yeah, we owe them some shows". Indeed they do, and if a proportion of those shows are in fact to be indoor shows at smaller venues - interspersed with the ubiquitous 50,000 to 70,000 seater stadium shows, then pretty much everybody comes out on top. They still get to rake in lots of $$$$$$, and Europe gets blessed with an as yet unquantified number of indoor shows at smaller venues, be they arena/amphitheatre/club - whatever.

What I say is pure speculation of course, I'm kind of thinking aloud, but it makes a vague sort of sense I hope. And there is also the curious business of these LEGACY memberships. I mean, WHAT exactly are rs.com envisaging for these sorts of memberships ? OK, they could put aside the first two or three rows FOS at stadium shows for Legacy memberships only, but then ... they could ALSO be envisaging these memberships giving folk first crack at tickets for CLUB shows for example ? They've gotta be used somehow or other, otherwise ... what's the point of them ? I suppose they could always be used to give you access to a year's worth of free guitar lessons from Keith or Ronnie ?



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>> [Legacy memberships have] gotta be used somehow or other, otherwise ... what's the point of them ? <<

well, they never actually promised there would be any point to them -
the fact that there was some point to them in terms of pre-sale access in 05
was a major surprise to everybody, remember? and there was still no guarantee that you'd get great tickets.
in other words: we'll see, won't we. have some popcorn.

I can't believe that they'll do 10 club-shows...

I believe that now all have sense!!! the club gigs will be the new modality in next years..!!! little by little!!.

how i said before..i will attend the concerts in Paris and Lyon ,16 & 18 June..if they play in Olimpya or Rex or any club in near country in those days ( to 21th June) for who can get 2 tickets for me ( i will pay of course)...i have for him, Argentine wine,Records,1 Football tshirt( any argentinean team)and house in Buenos Aires for the next concert.Ahh and free beer in 40x5 Tributo Bar. Promised.

[www.40x5.com]
email: info@40x5.com

Does this mean the posters who have regularly, against all of the evidence to the contrary, stated over and over that there will never be another tour, that the Euro shows will never happen, that the Stones have played their last show etc., will be required to apologize for negativity? OK maybe that is a bit strong, but maybe we should require to all post on a thread with the title "I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE TOUR."

As for legacy, I can only hope, because I have two legacy platinums, and if I have a crack at two club shows I will quit my job and do teh summer Euro tour. LOL, not an unheard of thing as freind that me from last year know I quit a job and withdrew my retirement to spend weeks in Europe at the beginnning and end of the Euro leg.



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kahoosier Wrote:
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> Does this mean the posters who have regularly,
> against all of the evidence to the contrary,
> stated over and over that there will never be
> another tour, that the Euro shows will never
> happen, that the Stones have played their last
> show etc., will be required to apologize for
> negativity? OK maybe that is a bit strong, but
> maybe we should require to all post on a thread
> with the title "I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE TOUR."
>

george bush hasn't apologized, why would mellilo?

<<george bush hasn't apologized, why would mellilo?>>

Well Forty Niks, at the risk of starting something polical, let me say in my humble opinion George Bush is an ASS HOLE, and it is my sincerest hope that Mellilo deep down is not!

there's always hope

Haha, dont believe the Club gigs.!!!
peronally, i think march 15is just a rumour. sorry fans. just wait till april 14.
Bye jeroen

those club gigs are just a rumour at the moment. And I cannot remember any tour where there haven't been rumoured club gigs. And they are just ONE SINGLE rumour.
Are there any other sources there at the moment (except our dreams of course) than this Belgian Radio station? Offical german state TV ZDF announced 2005 that the Stones would be playing germany in November 2005, absolute bullshit.

Why should that Belgian radio station know something so special which - in case it's true - the Stones camp successfully kept secret up to now. If they would do those fantastic club gigs they propably tell at the Press conferece with a BIG BANG and probably not let out any rumours just a very very few days before.
I'm afraid it's bullshit to improve interest in this Belgian radio channel - but I wished it is not. Journalist often get a lot of things wrong.

kahoosier Wrote:
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> <>
>
> Well Forty Niks, at the risk of starting something
> polical, let me say in my humble opinion, George
> Bush is an ASS HOLE, and it is my sincerest hope
> that Mellilo deep down is not!

<<< let me say in my humble opinion, George Bush is an ASS HOLE >>>

Now Doc ... steady! Easy does it! Chill, and have a ... where were we last year? O yeah, Porto! OK, have a Vino Verde - or a ... hic ... Capairinha !!

See ya in Europe this summer. Bienvenue, Wilkommen, welcome ... n' all that !!

kahoosier Wrote:
OK maybe that is a bit strong, but
> maybe we should require to all post on a thread
> with the title "I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE TOUR."


followed by the I Was Wrong About the rumour thread.

paulywaul Wrote:
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> kahoosier Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > <>
> >
> > Well Forty Niks, at the risk of starting
> something
> > polical, let me say in my humble opinion,
> George
> > Bush is an ASS HOLE, and it is my sincerest
> hope
> > that Mellilo deep down is not!
>
> <<< let me say in my humble opinion, George Bush
> is an ASS HOLE >>>


oh no, please don't gibe BV reasons to close this first interesting thread for ages.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> gotta be used somehow or other, otherwise ...
> what's the point of them ? <<
>
> well, they never actually promised there would be
> any point to them -
> the fact that there was some point to them in
> terms of pre-sale access in 05
> was a major surprise to everybody, remember? and
> there was still no guarantee that you'd get great
> tickets.
> in other words: we'll see, won't we. have some
> popcorn.

We will indeed see. And IF they do turn out to get you a year's worth of gitar lessons with KR & RW, you'll be able to plug those few remaining gaps in your otherwise exhaustive knowledge of their axes - wont ya ?

Mmmm yum, this popcorn's delicious. Buttered it is, not salted !

BTW who was the guy on the phone with the Radio 1 belgian journalist and was talking about the club gigs ?

Stoneswolf Wrote:
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> paulywaul Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > kahoosier Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > <>
> > >
> > > Well Forty Niks, at the risk of starting
> > something
> > > polical, let me say in my humble opinion,
> > George
> > > Bush is an ASS HOLE, and it is my sincerest
> > hope
> > > that Mellilo deep down is not!
> >
> > <<< let me say in my humble opinion, George
> Bush
> > is an ASS HOLE >>>
>
>
> oh no, please don't gibe BV reasons to close this
> first interesting thread for ages.

Agreed. Doc - behave yourself. Apologize to George W at once !

I was wrong dudes, iam really happy for the you guys in europe, i made a mistake and misjudged the stones euro 2007 tour, enjoy it and i hope they trek theyre way to the northeast this year also, i mostly was just playing devils advocate, i always knew they were gonna tour deep down

I'm SO excited at the thought of them playing in Europe again this summer that I've just been listening to ABB again (at full vol) - I didn't hear the timer on the cooker buzzing and the f***ing chicken has been incinerated !!

S**t and double s**t !! Takeaway tonight I guess !!

It's got me motivated for summer! Just grabbed my Ipod and been to the gym, got to be ready to jump all over the place in a few months. Roll on the pre show gatherings! Ben.

I think they will announce there will be no 2007 shows, I mean they are not doin stuff together any more, why would they tour in Europe this year?

johang Wrote:
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> I think they will announce there will be no 2007
> shows, I mean they are not doin stuff together any
> more, why would they tour in Europe this year?

Go away

johang Wrote:
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> I think they will announce there will be no 2007
> shows, I mean they are not doin stuff together any
> more, why would they tour in Europe this year?

Er ... if there's gonna be NO 2007 shows, I hardly think they're gonna bother ANNOUNCING it, there just won't be any ! I mean, normally people like to ANNOUNCE nice sorts of things, not horrible things that stand to disappoint hordes of fans - surely ?

About "le grand Rex" in Paris.
It's an old (begin of 20th century) cinema full of history : first movies by brothers Lumière, Melies...
I saw Dylan and Lou Reed there, the sound is not clear in the upper stairs but excellent on the floor.
The arm chairs are very comfortable, i can't imagine the Stones in that place.

paulywaul Wrote:
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>johang Wrote:
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>> I think they will announce there will be no 2007
>> shows, I mean they are not doin stuff together any
>> more, why would they tour in Europe this year?
>
>Er ... if there's gonna be NO 2007 shows, I hardly
>think they're gonna bother ANNOUNCING it, there just
>won't be any ! I mean, normally people like to ANNOUNCE
>nice sorts of things, not horrible things that stand to
>disappoint hordes of fans - surely ?


Exactly - and if they would announce that there will be no tour they should have done this 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, etc. Every year an announcement either for a tour or for no tour ;-]



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arizojp Wrote:
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> BTW who was the guy on the phone with the Radio 1
> belgian journalist and was talking about the club
> gigs ?

This is a pretty crucial question that arizojp asked. Who was the guy, if there was any? Or was it just said by the presenter?
Whats his credentials? Our belgian friends migth be able to answer this?

The Radio 1 presenter is a woman and she is on a phone communication with a guy.
We can clearly earing the guy who says "Paradiso" and "Grand Rex" during the conversation.
But my dutch language stops here !

We need to know who that was. I mean, it could be just a regular guy, making it up. Or someone really in "the know". See my point here? I mean before we all get to excited.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

I e-mailed Radio 1 to ask them who the hell he is and why he has more information than us.

Excellent work, Harm. I always liked you

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

mickijaggeroo Wrote:
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> We need to know who that was. I mean, it could be
> just a regular guy, making it up. Or someone
> really in "the know". See my point here? I mean
> before we all get to excited.


Maybe it was Bjornulf ?