Did the Stones ever perform Hang Fire live after the 1981/1982 tour? I think it's a great song to play on the B-stage!!! What do you think?

mrrockandroll Wrote:
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> Did the Stones ever perform Hang Fire live after the 1981/1982 tour?

No, but they rehearsed it in 2005.

One of my favourite gems, and it's the first song I can remember hearing by the Stones (My dad played it at New Year's Eve on his record player sometime around 1985). I love it.

JumpingKentFlash

i don't think this is a good b stage song because if memory serves it requires backing vocals...
right?

Doo doo doo, doo doo doo, doo doo doo, doo-doo doo-doo...

Great song! Short and sweet.

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stoned_in_dc Wrote:
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> i don't think this is a good b stage song because
> if memory serves it requires backing vocals...
> right?


They didnt use backing vocals when they played it live - it featured sax instead

HAng Fire is very good. Gets rarely mentioned as loved. MEZ

allright..bobby keys on the b-stage!

it was mighty fine when it was still Lazy Bitch too

with sssoul Wrote:
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> it was mighty fine when it was still Lazy Bitch
> too


Yes that's true, it's one of them classic Jagger-snarl takes, where he makes up words that sounds cool..."my old woman...nana...hanging around by the swimming pool! Watcha do now! Yayaya Hang around"
Same mood as on So Young and Shame Shame SHame from the 77/78 outtakes

with sssoul Wrote:
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> it was mighty fine when it was still Lazy Bitch
> too


Yes--it was. Great outtake. Always liked Charlie's drumming on this one.

One of the best numbers of "Tatoo You".

Great song indeed. Look at Mick when Keith starts 'Hang Fire' on Let's Spend The Night Together. Great shot!


'In the sweet old country...'

Hang Fire Wrote:
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> Great song indeed.

Only a "great song" for you, Hang Fire?

>> Watcha do now! <<

yeah: watcha do now! [throwin raunchy growlin confetti all over the damn place]
what i said! :E

mrrockandroll Wrote:
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> Did the Stones ever perform Hang Fire live after
> the 1981/1982 tour? I think it's a great song to
> play on the B-stage!!! What do you think?

I think, that is a bad idea. We have these memories of Tattoo You and the following tour with high speed, two wild guitars, a shouting singer and no background band. In 2007 the Stones would not play the song exactly that old way... it might get the same reactions as Little T&A last fall.

Love this one - and definitely agree that it would smoke on the B stage. it's probably too short to give cindy c a chance to run to the bathroom, though!

Unfortunately Jagger decided he wanted to make a comment on the industrial-relations problems being experienced in the UK in the late 70s. As a Jet-set rockstar now well removed from the-man-in-the-street attitudes I think his observations were trite and condecending. Taking a leaf out of the right-wing Daily-Mail view of life and blaming the British working man for all the industrial woes. The Stones may have captured the zeitgeist in the late 60s with tracks such as 'Street Fighting Man' and 'Gimme Shelter' to name but two but in Hang Fire I think Jagger missed it by a wide margin.
I think the sleazy and bluesy 'Lazy Bitch' is a much much better version of the song - even if it is very un-pc. And if they'd stuck with that idea (maybe with some lyrical softening for the sensitive - hell no!!) 'Hang Fire' may now be a regular fixture in the setlists.

rumple21 Wrote:
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> Unfortunately Jagger decided he wanted to make a
> comment on the industrial-relations problems being
> experienced in the UK in the late 70s. As a
> Jet-set rockstar now well removed from
> the-man-in-the-street attitudes I think his
> observations were trite and condecending. Taking a
> leaf out of the right-wing Daily-Mail view of life
> and blaming the British working man for all the
> industrial woes. The Stones may have captured the
> zeitgeist in the late 60s with tracks such as
> 'Street Fighting Man' and 'Gimme Shelter' to name
> but two but in Hang Fire I think Jagger missed it
> by a wide margin.

well i see that the marxist view of history is present and accounted for

thanks for that, actually - very interesting. i always thought the lyric "nobody ever works and nothing gets done" would have been better as "everybody works but nothing ever gets done." (thats how i do it in my personal karaoke versions!) more about the futility of the 9 to 5 job, ya know?

Yeah that's probably a better line

MJ might have been dissing the british government because in the 70s because He got taxed so heavily.

Although I think Mick should have gone with the "Lazy Bitch" lyrical theme, the finished lyrics are fine. It doesn't matter whether he places the blame on the working man or whether he has no right to be making such a lyrical statement, because it works.



Forty Niks Wrote:
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> "everybody works but nothing ever gets done."

How would that fit into the song?

Hang Fire Wrote:
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> Great song indeed. Look at Mick when Keith starts
> 'Hang Fire' on Let's Spend The Night Together.
> Great shot!
>
>
> 'In the sweet old country...'


yes one of my favorite moments. It looks like hes starting up a motorcyle.

Well, looking at the lyrics I'd say that it wasn't trying to blame the British working man for being lazy or anything like that. It looks more like a social comment on the general situation - there's no work so what the hell! You've got to remember that Britain in the late 70s was held to ransom by the trade unions. Without going in to the politics, there are strong views on both sides and Jagger has been known to be a bit of a Conservative.



In the sweet old country where I come from
Nobody ever works
Nothing ever gets done
We hang fire, we hang fire

You know marrying money is a full time job
I don't need no aggravation
I'm a lazy slob
I hang fire, I hang fire
Hang fire, put it on the wire

We've got nothing to eat
We got nowhere to work
Nothing to drink
We just lost our shirts
I'm on the dole
We ain't for hire
Say what the hell
Say what the hell, hang fire
Hang fire, hang fire, put it on the wire
Doo doo doo

here's ten thousand dollars go have some fun
Put it all on at a hundred to one
Hang fire, hang fire, put it on the wire

Always loved Bill's bass playing on that one, yes I think Bill was a very underrated player and is really missing in the Stones sound. Sorry
Darryl, but for me he has never sounded great with the Stones.

As far as I understand, Darryl has never played Hang Fire live on stage, and Bill is absolutely not underrated here on IORR.

That said: I think Hang Fire is a great song, I love the rhythm changes in the song around this verse:

We've got nothing to eat
We got nowhere to work
Nothing to drink
We just lost our shirts
I'm on the dole
We ain't for hire
Say what the hell
Say what the hell, hang fire
Hang fire, hang fire, put it on the wire


Jelle

I didn't say Darryl has played Hang Fire live I just mean his over all playing and feel with the Stones. I'm glad he is up there on bass but to me he hasn't come close to Bill's feel for their sound.

No I know you didn't say that. But that is in fact why I reacted: where did the need for a comment on Darryl come from, on a topic dedicated to Hang Fire? I understand, but sometimes I get so tired about the comments on the changes in the Stones' formation.

Jelle

Because listening to Hang Fire as I was reading this thread reminded me how good Bill was on songs like this, and also remined me of how Darryl has never fit the bands sound. At least to my ear, just another bass player nothing special.

alright, fair enough I guess.

Jelle