JaggerFan Wrote:
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Oh, the blank faces after
> "Okay we got some new songs for you people".

From the boots I've listened to, that seems to not yet have been the case. At AC, in particular, people sound like they're going nuts for the new tunes! (And they should be - the stones did smokin' renditions of Terrifying and Mixed Emotions on that fateful evening.)

The blank faces, however, were in great attendance at each show I attended on the ABB tour . . .

must say I joined 'em when mick intoned, "this is called streets of love."

if nothin' else,, the steel wheels stage alone made you know they 'were back'..

SW was indeed the "biggest" comback album. And it's a great album, too.

wesley Wrote:
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> phd Wrote:
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> > Steel Wheels with Start Me Up. Without that
> song
> > and 2 or 3 others on that album, we sure
> wouldn't
> > be waiting so eagerly on their next European
> Tour.
> > Thanks Keith.
>
> SW for sure, but SMU? Wrong album/ song?
> >
> Wesley


Oooopppps. I meant SW. But Urban Jungle is so much associated in my simple mind with the intro on SMU that I mixed up.

I'm just glad Wyman was still in the band, during the '89/'90 World Tour. He went out in style!

I personally thought Voodoo Lounge was a return to form (perhaps something to do with Mr.Was'input). I think Steel Wheels (although good) is a bit glorified because of the tour that tagged itself to it.

But nowadays, in general I'm always hoping their NEXT album will be their biggest comeback album...

"I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon."

In the true meaning of the word "comeback", it would be hard to argue against Steel Wheels.

Steel Wheels.

The Rolling Stones biggest comeback album had to be Some Girls. After Goat's Head Soup, It's Only Rock 'n' Roll and Black & Blue, they were washed up and left for dead. With Some Girls they had yet another #1 album, but also and maybe more importantly, another #1 song - Miss You. The disco flavored Miss You dominated a Bee Gees summer and was a huge hit in the dance clubs across the land. The Punks had tried to write the Stones off as tired old men, but we know who won in the end. The Steel Wheels tour is the biggest comeback tour, for certain - but the Some Girls album was huge. I've been shattered.

If you said "Steel Wheels" was their biggest comeback, you were probably referring to the megatour of the same name. But a great comeback tour isn't the same thing as a great comeback album. I don't think Steel Wheels is a great comeback album, not by a long shot. On the other hand, Steel Wheels, the tour, was a good live comeback for sure.

But hearing some people answer Beggars Banquet was a good surprise for me, because I hadn't been thinking about pre-golden 4... But it's true... Beggars Banquet was a great comeback. Without BB (and JJF), the next 35 years of Stones music would not have been played. The Stones would be in the same class as Herman's Hermits.

Much credit goes to Jimmy Miller, we should mention.



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Gazza Wrote:
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> Steel Wheels, not because of the quality of the
> record, but because the Stones were perceived as
> all but dead and buried for a couple of years
> before it - and the tour that followed was their
> biggest comeback TOUR for similar reasons - in
> fact it was their first tour in 8 years.


On this we agree...

Steel Wheels for sure, and that's also their only comeback album to date.

JumpingKentFlash

I cast my vote for Beggars Banquet, because that album not only restabilized the Stones after a wobbly drift, but it influenced other bands as well. At the very least, it was one of several albums in that era that represented a "return to the basics" (Music from Big Pink, for example).

Steel Wheels, while energizing to fans and to the band, didn't really influence other artists.

I guess it's how you define "Comeback". Each decade had a great Stones comeback. the 60's - Beggars re-established the stones after Psychedilic dabbling of Satanic MR and the drug bust at Redlands. In the 70's Some Girls re-established the stones from the assult of Disco and Punk as well as Keith's arrest for H in Canada. In the 80's Steel Wheels reaffirmed the groups longevithy and viability after nearly a decade without touring and marred by M and K fights.With each sucessive comeback the stakes go up- can they do it AGAIN??? But Steel Wheels is no Beggars Banquet. That said I'd love to see another really stong Comeback album and another tour.

After Black and Blue The Stones were just another band as far as their recordings went. I still don't get the hype over Some Girls. I would vote for STEEL WHEELS.

steel wheels! absolutely

people are forgetting cause it was 18 years ago and theres been a lot of drinks since then

but in 1989 suddenly the stones were back on all the worlds radio stations with new songs... i mean mixed emotions got a ton of airplay..so did rock and a hard place, etc...

teh songs may not have been great.. the production problematic but steel wheels made the stones relevant again... it was a very big deal... the stones had been given up for dead and here they were again and sounding pretty good..

Some Girls revived their carrer, selling 10 mil. copies after three lackluster lps in a row. A HUGE comeback album. It gave them a whole new generation of fans. Since then its been their live shows that have kept them on top.

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> Some Girls revived their carreer

baloney. their career was doing fine... maybe black and blue/iorr/goatshead soup had not sold that great but neither had exile or do you forget???

some girls was a bigger succes (it did NOT sell 10 million copies in the US..not even close) commercially but their career was fine..they were selling out shows left and right..

to have a comeback album you have to come back from somewhere... the stones some girls was a bigger hit, better album than the previous ones, maybe ( i love black and blue), but the stones did not come back from anywhere with that album..it just was a bigger hit..that don't make it a comeback album.. and it had been like 4 years since the stones had a HUGE hit with its only rock and roll and 5 years since they had a number one which i don't believe some girls had by the way...

i don't know how anyone can say it was not steel wheels..i remember the buzz when that album came out and with the announcement they were touring again..it was huge

Voodoo Lounge has sold more albums than Steel Wheels in any country of the world.

I find interesting that no one - sorry, let's try micksbrain style - NO ONE has chosen ABB. i mean, the first new album in 7 years, (the biggest gap since they started recording!) and nobody sees is it as a true "comeback." speaks volumes about its lack of impact . . .



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Seems that you could approach this a number of ways--there are "creative" comebacks, "commercial" comebacks and the "Oh my God, I thought for sure they
were gonna breakup" comeback.

and if Sticky Fingers was a comeback?!?
after Altamont and the end of the '60...all dead and gone...but stones not!


ABB is another great comeback in studio, still rocking...and it's present!

Glass Slide is right. I was refering to Some Girls in the sense of a commercial and credability come back. By the way Stoned in DC, it DID have a number one and it DID sell 10 million.

keithfan64 Wrote:
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> Glass Slide is right. I was refering to Some Girls
> in the sense of a commercial and credability come
> back. By the way Stoned in DC, it DID have a
> number one and it DID sell 10 million.


oh yah keithfan64.pray tell WHAT SINGLE WAS NUMBER ONE.. and it sold 10 million in the United States..

i don't think so

Gazza Wrote:
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> How is Tattoo You a comeback when they had
> released a number 1 album only 14 months
> previously?

Easy. Because ER was considered their worst record ever. An artistic comeback.

some points of view re Some girls


Some Girls
The Rolling Stones
Rolling Stones 39108
Released: June 1978
Chart Peak: #1
Weeks Charted: 82
Certified 4x Platinum: 10/30/84

Q: Do you think the music of the Rolling Stones has an overall theme?
A: Yeah. Women.
- Keith Richards

With Bob Dylan no longer bringing it all back home, Elvis Presley dead and the Beatles already harmlessly cloned in the wax-museum nostalgia of a Broadway musical, it's no wonder the Rolling Stones decided to make a serious record. Not particularly ambitious, mind you, but serious. These guys aren't dumb, and when the handwriting on the wall begins to smell like formaldehyde and that age-old claim, "the greatest rock & roll band in the world" suddenly sounds less laudatory than laughable, you'd better dredge up your leftover pride, bite the bullet and try like hell to sweat out some good music. Which is exactly what the Stones have done. Though time may not exactly be on their side, with Some Girls they've at lest managed to stop the clock for a while.

On the new album the Stones have stripped down to the archetypal sound of two or three guitars, bass and drums, and it's wonderful to hear the group blazing away again with little more than the basics to protect them. Everything's apparently been recorded as close to live as we'd want it, and the overdubbing and extra musicians have been kept to a minimum. "Respectable" takes a close look at the peculiar position of the Stones, circa 1978, and boasts lines like these:

We're talking heroin with the President
Yes it's a problem sir, but it can be bent...
You're a rag trade girl, you're the queen of porn
You're the easiest lay on the White House lawn...

before it inexplicably begins to lose interest in itself. "When the Whip Comes Down" and "Lies" are a neat combination of white heat and old hat, while "Miss You," "Imagination" and "Shattered" are a good deal better than that. And the title track is every bit as outrageous ("Black girls just want to get @#$%& all night/I just don't have that much jam") as everyone says. This song may be a sexist and racist horror, but it's also terrifically funny and strangely desperate in a manner that gets under your skin and makes you care. On "Some Girls," Mick Jagger sounds like he's not only singing like Bob Dylan, but about Bob Dylan: "I'll give you a house back in Zuma Beach/And give you half of what I owe."

"Before They Make Me Run" and "Beast of Burden," Some Girls' hardest-hitting songs, are sandwiched between "Respectable" and "Shattered" on side two. It's probably presumptuous to suggest that these four tracks are about the present predicament of this stormy band, but I think they are. When Keith Richards sings, "Well after all is said and done/Gotta move while it's still fun/But let me walk before they make me run," there's no doubt he's talking about the music, his drug bust and the possible end of the road, about which he writes brilliantly ("Watch my taillights fading/There ain't a dry eye in the house..."). And when Mick Jagger implores,

Ain't I rough enough
Ain't I tough enough
Ain't I rich enough
In love enough
Oooo, ooh please.

he's got to be thinking about himself and the Rolling Stones, among other things. It's too bad the answer to all his questions isn't an unqualified yes. In a better world, it should be.

- Paul Nelson, Rolling Stone, 8/10/78.

Bonus Reviews!

The Stones' best album since Exile on Main Street is also their easiest since Let It Bleed or before. They haven't gone for a knock-down uptempto classic, a "Brown Sugar" or "Jumping Jack Flash" -- just straight rock and roll unencumbered by horn sections or Billy Preston. Even Jagger takes a relatively direct approach, and if he retains any credibility for you after six years of dicking around, there should be no agonizing over whether you like this record, no waiting for tunes to kick in. Lyrically, there are some bad moments -- especially on the title cut, which is too @#$%& indirect to suit me -- but in general the abrasiveness seems personal, earned, unposed, and the vulnerability more genuine than ever. Also, the band is a really good one -- especially the drummer. A

- Robert Christgau, Christgau's Record Guide, 1981.

Probably the last gasp of a once great band. They were playing tighter than ever, particularly Watts (drums) and Wyman (bass), but with this band that's not necessarily a virtue. This is stripped-down, straight-ahead Stones' rock & roll, and it still resonates with the echoes of their former dark grandeur (it was the group's best selling album ever), but the intensity has been replaced with something more commercially akin to the disco sensibility of the time. The CD's sound is punchy, crisp, and terribly overbright. B

- Bill Shapiro, Rock & Roll Review: A Guide to Good Rock on CD, 1991.

A nasty, hard-rocking album, Some Girls finds the Stones turing out an effortlessly brilliant and eclectic set of material, encompassing the disco pulse of "Miss You," the sleazy snarl of "When the Whip Comes Down," the campy country of "Far Away Eyes," the moving ballad of "Beast of Burden," and Keith's best outlaw song, "Before They Make Me Run." * * * * *

- Stephen Thomas Erlewine, The All-Music Guide to Rock, 1995.

Some Girls is the last gasp of the Stones' greatness, with Keith Richards' "Before They Make Me Run" serving as what should have been a fitting epitaph: "See my tail lights fading/ Not a dry eye in the house." * * * *

- Greg Kot, Musichound Rock: The Essential Album Guide, 1996.

The Stones deflect punk's attack and show off their muscles in the middle of the Studio 54 era with this naughty rock comeback featuring Ron Wood on guitar. If the down and dirty lyrics of this homage to NYC don't detract from your listening pleasure, then you're in for a good time with such sly, slinky songs as the title track, "Miss You" (a disco-y attempt), "When the Whip Comes Down" (pure energy), "Far Away Eyes" (a larf) and "Shattered" (the best ever written about Manhattan). * * * * *

- Zagat Survey Music Guide - 1,000 Top Albums of All Time, 2003.

"Christ, Keith @#$%&' gets busted every year," Mick Jagger fumed. Keith Richards was lost in drug hell, and the Stones wre on the verge of destruction, but they bounced back with "Miss You," the sleazy "Shattered" and "When the Whip Comes Down." And Richards does his best song, "Before They Make Me Run."

Some Girls was chosen as the 269th greatest album of all time by the editors of Rolling Stone magazine in Dec. 2003.

- Rolling Stone, 12/11/03.

----------------and from our friends at wikipedia:


"Miss You"

Single by Rolling Stones
from the album Some Girls
Released May 19, 1978
Format 7"
Recorded October-December 1977
Genre Rock
Length 4:48
Label Rolling Stones/Virgin Records
Producer(s) The Glimmer Twins
Certification Gold (RIAA) July 6, 1978
Chart positions

* #3 (UK)

* #1 (US)



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stoned in dc; Miss You was number 1 in June 78. I don't have the U.S. sales figures and didn't say in the U.S. in my original post. Maybe someone can enlighten us in regard to the Some Girls sales figures here and worldwide.



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according to [www.beatzenith.com] --RIAA-certifird sa;es of some girls hit six million in 2ooo,second only to hot rocks w/12 million.

schillid Wrote:
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Without BB (and JJF), the next 35 years of Stones music would
> not have been played. The Stones would be in the
> same class as Herman's Hermits.

Not exactly. How about The Yardbirds? Or Them?

I agree with Gazza. Steel Wheels, because everyone had written them off.

The album wasn't a "critical" success, but it's got some good songs and ever since they have been "the" show.