So...I take it this means Mick Taylor won't be on the T-Shirt?

Here's an idea for an interesting thread. Let's revisit the Rolling Stones 1961 winter tour of Burma. I think I got the boot. Rangoon Rocks!

Mr bv,

I take it that it is still OK to post Mick Taylor's live music on Hot Stuff. If not, please advise.

bv:

I don't think it's fair to ban Mick Taylor posts here. A lot of us posting in the Mick Taylor threads are just posting to defend him when he is being unfairly attacked. The people that keep the threads going forever are mostly the anti-Mick Taylor people.

If there are members that are troublesome in their activities on the board, then ban them. Do not ban a topic. You may only be playing into the troublesome member's hand.

Tippy Toe wrote:
If there are members that are troublesome in their activities on the board, then ban them. Do not ban a topic. You may only be playing into the troublesome member's hand.



Tippy Toe is spot on. However, as this is your site Mr. bv and your prerogative, could you also ban posts about Ron Wood & the Faces please.

Rarely, if ever do l agree with BV, but this time l think he is right,enough is enough.

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

WTF, bv has closed threads of mine before (including a couple of days ago). It's his right, it's his site. Extremely well run and easy to nagivate (even if he and sometime have differing views).

The Taylor threads had became a pissing contest, which isn't the idea here. It's to discuss the Stones.

MLC and I have discussed the band and traded CDs. He's a cool, knowledgable fan. He defends MT (as well he should) but the threads got carried away and personal. bv is boss here.

i never start threads.. maybe i've started 4 out of 1000 posts in one year. i genuinely though there would be interest in an article about mick taylor with a picture of him... not sure what was wrong with having this thread..then someone had to start a new mick taylor thread instead of posting on the one i had started... i thought that was a bit weird.... but not sure why BV had to take such issue..and i certainly hardly ever start threads so the insinuation that the same people are always making trouble regarding mick taylor seems a bit bizzare... but it does not matter anyways..the thread was frankly played out....but to suggest that because mick taylor has not been in the band for 30 years we can't discuss him here seems very strange..there are plenty of off topic threads as it is and mick taylor is definetly on rollign stones topic... lastly, my concern is not so much about BV but other stones fans who make a living on this site cracking "mick taylor is fat" jokes.

The problem is that it always turns into a Taylor vs. Wood thread. I am a Stones fan, I like 'em both, both have their merits, and both have their shortcomings (just like Brian, by the way). Both are-were important for the band and their music (just like Brian, by the way). I cannot imagine Ruby Tuesday with Taylor or Wood. I cannot imagine Time Waits For No One with Jones or Wood. And I cannot imagine When The Whip Comes Down with Jones or Taylor. Just some very few examples. All this campaigning that Wood is better than Taylor or Taylor is better than Wood is ridiculous and a complete waste of time if you care for the music. There are times when I am not too impressed by Taylor, and there are times when I am not too impressed by Wood. As mentioned before - both have their merits, but both also have their shortcomings. Nobody rules. It just depends on your personal taste. Your personal taste makes you think somebody rules. But in reality there is not objective "truth" that either Taylor or Wood suit the Stones better than the other.

I think it would be ok if the threads were serious ones. SOME people, though, make ridiculous Taylor threads. Wow he's fat and what doesn't he eat are two classless threads of example.

We applaud MT's contribution in creating the soundtrack to our lives.

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cirrhosis Wrote:
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> I thought this thread was going to be about penis
> length.


that would be ok..its mick taylor you can't discuss

As I used to tell the ladies, If you wanna see my 6 inches, they will just have to fold it in half....

There are very few things I find more amusing than people with a wildly distorted self-image, who are going the way of the overinflated balloon.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-02-03 08:01 by Raoul Duke.

I agree with BV simply because of the nature of some of the postings. I would much rather focus on songs, albums, live performances and any talk of how a song came to be or how a track was recorded and the like. Mathjis has always stated that he does not care for a discussion regarding the Stones personal lives and that is a good policy. As for Rocky and MCDDTLC..."What I believe his warnings to be about are juvenile or mean-spirited posts in which subjective statements like who is the better guitarist or whose songwriting is stronger are used as excuses to attack others and turn an enjoyable messageboard for Stones fans into a place people wish to avoid. Its a bitwell done indeed!" Could not agree more.

I personally don't care whether there are MT posts or not,like any threads if they don't interest me I'll just skip them. My personal bugbears are Wishlists and 'Last Tour' posts BUT if people want to put them on and others want to read them that's fine. So long as the items not offensive, racial etc.

All that aside, I wouldn't know BV if I bumped into him the street and have no personal feelings towards the guy one way or another. He does a good job running this site.

Dictator is a pretty strong and perhaps slightly offensive word. Point is: Suppose some day BV says 'F*ck this, I've had enough!'. Goodbye site. Where would we be then? I for one would hate to see that happen. There are other Stones sites but have you seen them!?

"I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon."

ROLLINGSTONE Wrote:
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> Suppose some day BV says
> 'F*ck this, I've had enough!'. Goodbye site. Where
> would we be then?

Maybe in another Stones related site where owner/moderator is not behaving like dictator

I am also grateful for the work that bv does to maintain the site, but I don't much care for his standards for what is acceptable or not.

Here's a thought: Would we be even talking about the Rolling Stones in 2007 if they adhered to bv's rather prudish standards of decency and political correctness?

I am not saying that anything goes or that he doesn't have the right to allow whatever content he likes. He runs the board and can do what he damn well pleases as far as I am concerned. All I am saying is that these boards are only fun to the extent you can be a little edgy and on occasion piss some people off.

Seriously, how many times you have seen this kind of threads in other major Stones sites?

Maybe you should look at the mirror yourself, bv.

We can simplify all this you know. With all those other wonderful Stones sites that are out there, anyone not happy with IORR or how it's maintained can vote with their feet and just NOT use this site anymore. Hardly rocket science. If you don't like one supermarket you can always shop at another.

Ask the people of Rwanda, Bosnia, Bejing etc about dictatorship. I don't think they'll tell you about some dude that runs a Rock n Roll website.

Get a life and stop clogging up Cyberspace with rants about imagined tyrannies, decency/PC/democracy and above all over some guy who left a band 30-odd years ago.

"I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon."

Some people are either stupid, or dont care what bv says...

[www.iorr.org]

ROLLINGSTONE Wrote:
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> If you don't like one supermarket you can always shop at
> another.

> Get a life and stop clogging up Cyberspace with
> rants about imagined tyrannies,
> decency/PC/democracy and above all over some guy
> who left a band 30-odd years ago.

Haven't left because it hasn't gotten all that bad (yet). I apologize, but I didn't know that would disqualify me from expressing an opinion on the existing rules I don't agree with. Thanks for clarifying it though.

It is very simple. If you don't like the way I run IORR then just find one of the billons of other web sites. Nobody is paying for access to IORR.org. It is free and I work for free for YOU. And if you start offending me or anyone else here on IORR then again it is very simple, you are not welcome. As I have said before, 99.9% of people here on IORR have no problems understand the simple rules on IORR. Same rules as in everyday life. If you don't understand them, then ask a few friends, your mother, father, wife, husband, anybody with some normal attitude towards other people, not somebody who cheat on tax and steal from their grandmother, but someone who genuinly have an open mind and see their own and your good and bad sides.

PS. Callin me names like @#$%& or Quisling or names people feel are offending or upsetting is inappropriate and will of course mean you are not welcome anywhere near here, or other places in Europe, or other sivilized places I know of in the world, including TV, radio, public areas etc. Some people just don't have manners, and they will kept out of IORR.

PPS. This has nothing to do with Mick Taylor, but with attitude, respect and manners.

Bjornulf

[novogate.com]

Oh boy...

Culture Vulture is a proper name.

I agree with BV on this one. It is his site and therefore he makes the rules. While the Mick Taylor posts are interesting reading, it does get repetitive after a while. Sometimes a Ron Wood thread segues into a Mick Taylor versus Ron Wood thread and it's 'here we go again'.

Okay. It is forbidden to discuss Mick Taylor anymore. How about Brian Jones then? He didn't really existed either, right?

I see.

- Doxa

Can we say Michael Kevin Taylor?

Pleased to meet you......

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he knows it, me know it, you should know it.

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obscene.
what is well educated but poor?
respectable.

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you' re the hook I miss the most
feel on, baby"