This post is in reference to the many songs that don't even have the signature start like Ronnie on acoustic for IORR, or the fact that Keith has never opened JJF with the original beginning, which makes me think- he didn't play it in the studio.
>> which makes me think - he didn't play it in the studio. <<
mercy: playing on stage is completely different from making a record. of course the arrangements are different. and the aim of a concert isn't to duplicate the record. why in the world would it be? when people want to hear a number the same exact way as it's played on the record, they put on the record. that's what it's for.
Happy always seemed like it had the same basic arrangement--not that it sounded the same, but it was more or less "structured" the same unlike say, JJ Flash, Sympathy, Street Fighting Man, You Can't Always Get What You Want etc
yes Ket, in 89 it was the first time they consciously tried to recreate the studio versions. It seems like 89 began a new era for live performing for them. A different approach. Much of the 89 "mistakes" should be forgiven by now becasue they were still learning a writing the book on the new way of touring. I think they had taken the old style of live perfomances as far as they could and knew it was time to do thedir songs jujstice in another way.
"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."
Out of Tears live is very close to the studio, including, amazingly, Ron's solo. Almost Hear You Sigh also. Seems right after recording an album they sometimes play songs close to the studio version, but then it strays as years go by. (Actually Steel Wheels, Voodoo Lounge, and Bridges they play live close to the studio versions as opposed to how they have ever played their more highly rated rated albums live.)
I have a cassette of the 1981 tour where, if you start listening in the middle of almost any song you can't even tell what song it is. Every song was played too fast and every song ended on a 7th chord.
He/they probably haven't played the JJF intro exactly the same for two reasons...
1) It's in open E, so to truly nail it he'd have to be in that tuning.
2) It takes atleast two guitars in open E to play it as per the studio version.
They MAY have played it closer to the studio version at the 1968 NME poll winners concert as judging by Keith and Brian's fingering positions they are in open E.
Keith in particular makes quite a point about this topic though doesn't he ? He's always on about songs "growing" and "maturing", about finding new angles and arrangments. He's maybe trying to convince himself as much as anybody else...but it does go some way towards explaining what happens over time.
First thing that pops in my mind was the live version of "Ruby Tuesday" that they performed during Steel Wheels in 1989, That was pretty danged close to the original version.
Mongoose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > First thing that pops in my mind was the live > version of "Ruby Tuesday" that they performed > during Steel Wheels in 1989, That was pretty > danged close to the original version.
True. Also Mixed Emotions, Terrefying...and all other Steel WHeels songs in 89/90
Erik_Snow Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mongoose Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > First thing that pops in my mind was the live > > version of "Ruby Tuesday" that they performed > > during Steel Wheels in 1989, That was pretty > > danged close to the original version. > > > True. Also Mixed Emotions, Terrefying...and all > other Steel WHeels songs in 89/90
add Rain fall Down, they hadn't played these songs to death yet - remember: "the meat I eat for dinner, must be hung up for a week" or played for ten years. Keith always mentions that he tries to re-invent songs - like satisfaction.