Could you help me with a special question about Rolling Stones?? How many people have seen all live concerts of Rolling Stones since start of their path (they started in 1962, I think)?? If you know this number (at least approximately), could you send it to me on my email??
> Thanks a lot
Jan Pohl
jan.pohl@thamesdown.cz

Mick and Keith I suppose.

yep! only 2 have been at all the gigs, if that's what you're asking -
or are you asking what the total number of people is who have seen them since 1962?
(and: why the request for email - is it supposed to be a secret? just curious!)



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yes, I' m looking for a statistical dates....the total number of people they have seen RS concerts since 1962...I need for bet between friends )

how many do you think? what number did you pick for your bet?

Actually, I think Mick Missed one show, so Keith is my guess...

JR

I think he meant how many people have seen Stones live altogether. So you have to add the attendancy of all shows. And it still will be quite innacurate because many of people saw them more than once.

er..I think he means the total number of attendees at Stones shows since 1962.

In which case - 35,347,189

Give or take two or three

I think around 100.000.000 people, summation of visits of all concerts since 1962

No..nowhere near as many as that.

take into account that half of the Stones concerts in their 2,000 plus gig career to date took place by 1967 - and they would have almost all have been in ballrooms, clubs and small cinemas/theatres. So for the first 1,000 shows they would hardly have been seen by much more than 1 million people.

with a small number of exceptions, the Stones werent regularly playing arenas until 1972 or so and hardly played stadiums prior to 1981.

The vast majority of attendees at Stones shows have only seen them since 1989

Off the top of my head, the 35 million figure is IMO reasonable - give or take a million or two.



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It´s for me surprising, 35 millions, I thought much more...

after hours on my calculator, 29,803,214....

And what kind of procedure have you used by calculation??

>> with a small number of exceptions, the Stones werent regularly playing arenas until 1972 <<

that's an interesting remark, Gazza - since the 69 tour was a tour of arenas
(with a huge outdoor gig before and after it) i guess i always pictured the 1970/71 tours
in larger venues than you'd happily call "small" these days. so what sort of size venues
were they playing in 70/71? have some popcorn and thanks for the education.

Did Mick miss a show??????

What??

Who did the lead vocal? Brian, of Keith? That is really something, never thought that would have happened. Anybody here who can tell some more about this show?

Jelle

If the figure is 30 million, I wonder how many of those have seen a show more than once. In other words, 30 million total tickets sold would mean, say, 20 million people have seen them live?

I wonder what the greatest amount of time between an attendee seeing 2 shows is. For example, would anyone have seen them in 1963, but not again until 1989?

And whats the record for the most generations to see them? If a man and his 20 year old son saw them in 1963, the 20 year olds son might have seen them in 1981 and his son in 2002...

with sssoul Wrote:
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> what sort of size venues were they playing in 70/71?

In 1970 they played mostly indoor arenas. In Helsinki and Stockholm they played at large stadiums, but with a stage configuration that limited the capacity to about 5,000-10,000. In Gothenburg they played at Liseberg, an amusement park.
In 1971, theatres + the Marquee Club.



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>> never thought that would have happened <<

i'll second that - i'm still sure that neither Keith nor Mick have ever missed a gig,
but i'd be fascinated to hear the details if it's really right that Mick missed one. when, where,
and yeah: who did the singing???

>> In 1970 they played mostly indoor arenas. In Helsinki and Stockholm they played at large stadiums,
but with a stage configuration that limited the capacity to about 5,000-10,000.
In Gothenburg they played at Liseberg, an amusement park. In 1971, theatres + the Marquee Club. <<

thanks Erik - that's about what i thought. what sort of capacity were the indoor arenas, then -
also 5 to 10 thousand? and how about the theatres in 71?
a couple of thousand people is the impression i think i've been going around with for most of the 71 gigs.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> with a small number of exceptions, the Stones
> werent regularly playing arenas until 1972 <<
>
> that's an interesting remark, Gazza - since the 69
> tour was a tour of arenas

I know..but I said 'regularly'. They UK tour in 1971 was all theatres and there were some theatres on the Euro tour in 1970. There were some small venues on the US tour in 1972, but it was mostly arenas. From that point on, the Stones primarily played in arena sized venues or bigger. They played a stadium show in Washington in 1972, and there were a few in 75 and 78 (as well as 76 in Europe) but '81 was the first tour that was predominantly stadiums.


> (with a huge outdoor gig before and after it) i
> guess i always pictured the 1970/71 tours
> in larger venues than you'd happily call "small"
> these days. so what sort of size venues
> were they playing in 70/71? have some popcorn and
> thanks for the education.


1970 was mostly arenas (small ones by US standards), but there were some theatres too.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> never thought that would have happened <<
>
> i'll second that - i'm still sure that neither
> Keith nor Mick have ever missed a gig,

they havent, as far as I'm aware...

with sssoul Wrote:
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> what sort of capacity were the indoor arenas, then - also 5 to 10 thousand?

Yes, something like that. Probably more in Amsterdam, as the show took place at the rather large RAI hall.


> and how about the theatres in 71?

Probably 2-3 thousand.

>> 1970 was mostly arenas (small ones by US standards) <<

this isn't real communicative for me - what sort of capacity is a "standard" US arena - around 20 000?
and a "standard" European arena? and what size theatres are we talking about?
[passing more popcorn and grateful for the finetuning of my vague concepts of these things]

>> Yes, something like that. Probably more in Amsterdam, as the show took place at the rather large RAI hall. <<

thanks Erikjjf - i guess you could tell that photos from Amsterdam 70
have been pawing at my mind throughout this discussion.

>> and how about the theatres in 71?
>> Probably 2-3 thousand. <<

thank you kindly - so my vague imaginings weren't so far off. [passing popcorn + gratitude to Erikjjf]

I went from '75 to '94 without seeing a show [I'm exceedingly sorry to say]

I am also stuck on th epost about Jagger missing a show. If this indeed happened in the official Rolling Stones career, it could only have happened very early on in the Londodn club shows. I still don't think it happened. I don't even think Charlie or Bill missed one. We are talking the "official" Stones now, right?

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

>> I don't even think Charlie or Bill missed one.
We are talking the "official" Stones now, right? <<


Charlie did miss one early one, when that other cat sat in for him,
and Bill has missed all of them from Voodoo Lounge onward
(well, except for the one or two he's attended as an audience member).



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Of course Bill missed all those shows, but while he was a Stone he never pulled a no-show, right? Was the Charlie no-show in the early UK days? did Carlo Little fill in for him?
I just recently saw a small clip on TV about a drummer who filled in for Ringo on a short stint on tour. Ringo was sick. This was at the height of Beatle mania. Can you imagine to be swept into this tornado of surrealism completely without a gradula build-up? All the sudden your in there. And the minute you found ways to deal with it, back comes Ringo and you are spit out; forgotten. maybe it's better not to have happened at all. Then on the other hand they do say it';s better to have lost in love than to never have loved at all.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> 1970 was mostly arenas (small ones by US
> standards) <<
>
> this isn't real communicative for me - what sort
> of capacity is a "standard" US arena - around 20
> 000?

yes...they are now, anyway..certainly 15,000 would be the norm...and theyre getting bigger. In Europe, most arenas would be anything from about 7,000 to 12,000. Theres very few arenas in Europe which would be on the same scale as the sort of arenas that almost every American city seems to have - because Europe doesnt have the same demand for those sort of venues as sports like basketball and icehocky arent as popular . (The UK only has one or two which hold over 18,000 for example), and those that are of that size would have been for the most part, purpose built in the last decade or two. Prior to that, of a major act wanted to play an arena sized show, they were invariably in some converted airhanger or exhibition centre with questionable acoustics.

> and a "standard" European arena? and what size
> theatres are we talking about?

Most of the sort of theatres they would have been playing up to 1971 would be either ballrooms or converted cinemas or small theatres of about 2,000 capacity. Most would have been less than that. probably around 1500 would be about average.

How much alcohol was consumed -- per show and in total -- by ALL persons in the concert venue: band, crew, audience... 1964-2007 ?

Other controlled substances ?