Who's seen this? I never have. It's meant to be really crap.

I saw it some years ago. It's absolutely horrible. Scrach that: It's worse. It defies the laws of physics by sucking AND blowing at the same time.
I heard somewhere that Jagger erased the original master vox to Jumping Jack Flash on this one, just so he could stand in a shop in a bad movie and dance around.

JumpingKentFlash

What I like about that film..is When in the middle of Brazil no one recognize..him and he go dance...if only for that scene I would buy it!!If you can buy it!!



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The only reason I'd buy it is for Rae Dawn Chong ... and to see JUST how bad it is.



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ROCKMAN

Hey, Rock!!Did you received..that Tom Waits thing?

I've heard the infamous Mick erased the vocal of JJF from the original master story, too. The only trouble is the version of JJF in the film isn't the original studio recording. Mick pulls the record out of the great octagonal sleeve for Through the Past, Darkly and plays a completely different recording...the version from Love You Live. Why? Probably because he didn't want to have to pay ABKCO royalties for the recording as well as publishing. As far as the urban legend for erasing a classic vocal is concerned...its one of two that circulated at the time: there was also Mick allegedly telling an engineer to erase an amazing Jeff Beck guitar solo because he knew Beck was trying his best to impress him. The story goes that Beck stormed off and Jagger was horrified to learn the engineer really wiped the track. Pure Sun bollocks. The other was that Keith ordered Mick's vocal from You Got the Silver wiped during the Let It Bleed sessions and re-recorded it himself. A story that collapsed by the late 80's when countless bootlegs of Mick's vocal surfaced. As far as Running Out of Luck is concerned, it really is quite a good comedy and yes, the comedy is intentional. I loathe Mick's first solo album, yet it doesn't spoil my enjoyment of this entertaining (if somewhat warped and cynical) film. As a bonus, Luis Jardim's incidental score contains what sounds suspiciously like an early version of Terrifying.

Now I have to get this.

Its better to watch this film than listen to the record(Hard woman is very good I think)...this thread makes me wonder if there is footage around of that other South american film Jagger made..played a role in .

yeah...yeah rooster....got ya Tom Waits...thanks mannnnn



ROCKMAN

Will send you some more man!!

Did this ever surface on official DVD by the way?

BTW: Great read Rocky Dijon.

JumpingKentFlash

rooster Wrote:
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> Its better to watch this film than listen to the
> record(Hard woman is very good I think)...this
> thread makes me wonder if there is footage around
> of that other South american film Jagger
> made..played a role in .


You mean Herzog's Fitzcarraldo? I saw one of Jagger's clips from it and he was very good in it. No, really. Never finished the film because he had to go on tour, so Klaus Kinski took over.

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Did this ever surface on official DVD by the way?
>
> BTW: Great read Rocky Dijon.



Never appeared on DVD. Never will, I bet.

I love it. GREAT PHOTOGRAPHY. Pure pleasure and humour. Best clip of the 20th century indeed. also the longer : 90 mn.

i havent wathed it in 20(?) years. Now i feel like dusting my copy off and taking another look.

> You mean Herzog's Fitzcarraldo? I saw one of
> Jagger's clips from it and he was very good in it.
> No, really. Never finished the film because he
> had to go on tour, so Klaus Kinski took over.

There is footage of Jagger playing for Herzogs "Fitzcarraldo", yes, he's banging a bell to scream out for the opera!

But Jagger wouldn't have played the character of Fitzcarraldo himself (which would have been played by Jason Robards). Since the filmmaking took so long both Robards and Jagger left the scene and Herzog brought Kinski in. Jagger's role (he would have played a friedn of Fitzcarraldo) was completely dumped.

Nikolai Wrote:
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> rooster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Its better to watch this film than listen to
> the
> > record(Hard woman is very good I think)...this
> > thread makes me wonder if there is footage
> around
> > of that other South american film Jagger
> > made..played a role in .
>
>
> You mean Herzog's Fitzcarraldo? I saw one of
> Jagger's clips from it and he was very good in it.
> No, really. Never finished the film because he
> had to go on tour, so Klaus Kinski took over.

Yeah!!That movie...I wish I could see some of it!!

Rocky Dijon Wrote:
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> I've heard the infamous Mick erased the vocal of
> JJF from the original master story, too. The only
> trouble is the version of JJF in the film isn't
> the original studio recording. Mick pulls the
> record out of the great octagonal sleeve for
> Through the Past, Darkly and plays a completely
> different recording...the version from Love You
> Live. Why? Probably because he didn't want to have
> to pay ABKCO royalties for the recording as well
> as publishing. As far as the urban legend for
> erasing a classic vocal is concerned...its one of
> two that circulated at the time: there was also
> Mick allegedly telling an engineer to erase an
> amazing Jeff Beck guitar solo because he knew Beck
> was trying his best to impress him. The story goes
> that Beck stormed off and Jagger was horrified to
> learn the engineer really wiped the track. Pure
> Sun bollocks. The other was that Keith ordered
> Mick's vocal from You Got the Silver wiped during
> the Let It Bleed sessions and re-recorded it
> himself. A story that collapsed by the late 80's
> when countless bootlegs of Mick's vocal surfaced.
> As far as Running Out of Luck is concerned, it
> really is quite a good comedy and yes, the comedy
> is intentional. I loathe Mick's first solo album,
> yet it doesn't spoil my enjoyment of this
> entertaining (if somewhat warped and cynical)
> film. As a bonus, Luis Jardim's incidental score
> contains what sounds suspiciously like an early
> version of Terrifying.


Great stuff, Rocky. I have only minor confusion. I haven't seen the film for two decades, but I remember the mentioned scene: Mick miming himself for the people in the shop to recognize him (best one with some nude ones with ms. Chong...) Yeah, he puts Through The Past Darkly on, and then dances to "Brown Sugar" and "Jumping Jack Flash". I remember listening the tracks and never hearing them before performed by The Stones (not in Love You Live or any other source). I think those cuts (which sounded VERY 80's like), were done by Mick and some backing band exactly for this film. Or does my memory make me some tricks? Does anyone know more?

- Doxa

F.U.C. the Captain Wrote:
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> > You mean Herzog's Fitzcarraldo? I saw one of
> > Jagger's clips from it and he was very good in
> it.
> > No, really. Never finished the film because
> he
> > had to go on tour, so Klaus Kinski took over.
>
> There is footage of Jagger playing for Herzogs
> "Fitzcarraldo", yes, he's banging a bell to scream
> out for the opera!
>
> But Jagger wouldn't have played the character of
> Fitzcarraldo himself (which would have been played
> by Jason Robards). Since the filmmaking took so
> long both Robards and Jagger left the scene and
> Herzog brought Kinski in. Jagger's role (he would
> have played a friedn of Fitzcarraldo) was
> completely dumped.


My bad. Yes, it was the very great late Jason Robards originally in the title role. The cut scenes must exist on the DVD somewhere, no?

Doxa Wrote:
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> Rocky Dijon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've heard the infamous Mick erased the vocal
> of
> > JJF from the original master story, too. The
> only
> > trouble is the version of JJF in the film isn't
> > the original studio recording. Mick pulls the
> > record out of the great octagonal sleeve for
> > Through the Past, Darkly and plays a completely
> > different recording...the version from Love You
> > Live. Why? Probably because he didn't want to
> have
> > to pay ABKCO royalties for the recording as
> well
> > as publishing. As far as the urban legend for
> > erasing a classic vocal is concerned...its one
> of
> > two that circulated at the time: there was also
> > Mick allegedly telling an engineer to erase an
> > amazing Jeff Beck guitar solo because he knew
> Beck
> > was trying his best to impress him. The story
> goes
> > that Beck stormed off and Jagger was horrified
> to
> > learn the engineer really wiped the track. Pure
> > Sun bollocks. The other was that Keith ordered
> > Mick's vocal from You Got the Silver wiped
> during
> > the Let It Bleed sessions and re-recorded it
> > himself. A story that collapsed by the late
> 80's
> > when countless bootlegs of Mick's vocal
> surfaced.
> > As far as Running Out of Luck is concerned, it
> > really is quite a good comedy and yes, the
> comedy
> > is intentional. I loathe Mick's first solo
> album,
> > yet it doesn't spoil my enjoyment of this
> > entertaining (if somewhat warped and cynical)
> > film. As a bonus, Luis Jardim's incidental
> score
> > contains what sounds suspiciously like an early
> > version of Terrifying.
>
>
> Great stuff, Rocky. I have only minor confusion. I
> haven't seen the film for two decades, but I
> remember the mentioned scene: Mick miming himself
> for the people in the shop to recognize him (best
> one with some nude ones with ms. Chong...) Yeah,
> he puts Through The Past Darkly on, and then
> dances to "Brown Sugar" and "Jumping Jack Flash".
> I remember listening the tracks and never hearing
> them before performed by The Stones (not in Love
> You Live or any other source). I think those cuts
> (which sounded VERY 80's like), were done by Mick
> and some backing band exactly for this film. Or
> does my memory make me some tricks? Does anyone
> know more?
>
> - Doxa



Nude ones with Rae Dawn Chong? Lucky fooker!

Nikolai Wrote:

> My bad. Yes, it was the very great late Jason
> Robards originally in the title role. The cut
> scenes must exist on the DVD somewhere, no?

A few clips of Mick's performance were featured in Les Blank's documentary on the making of Fitzcarraldo called Burden of Dreams. I seem to recall hearing that Hertzog gave Mick a tape with all of his scenes, and then destroyed that footage.

I actually saw Running Out of Luck in a theatre (the Nuart) during a one-time only radio station screening when it came out.

It's a dud, with some awful moments (a creepy Just Another Night performance), but the part in the jungle store where he's trying to convince the guy that he's "Mick Jagger" by jumping around to BS is priceless. Worth seeing if just for that moment.

From Nico's Bible:

841100G late November - 27th December: MICK JAGGER. Rio De Janeiro, Brazil & Parati, Brazil. Shootings for the movie ‘Running Out Of Luck’. Director: Julien Temple.
Starring: MJ, Rae Dawn Chong, Dennis Hopper, Jerry Hall.
Screenplay: MJ and Julien Temple. Executive producer: MJ. Incl.
- Half A Loaf (MJ)
- Running Out Of Luck (MJ)
- She’s The Boss (MJ/Carlos Alomar)
- Hard Woman (MJ)
- Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar (both: MJ/KR)
-MJ sings a capella to 'Love You Live’-tracks -parts only
- Turn The Girl Loose (MJ) -part only
- Lucky In Love (MJ/Carlos Alomar)
- Secrets (MJ)
- Just Another Night (MJ)
-filmed at El Lide Che Club, Rio De Janeiro
- Lonely At The Top (MJ/KR)

loog droog Wrote:
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> Nikolai Wrote:
>
>
> I actually saw Running Out of Luck in a theatre
> (the Nuart) during a one-time only radio station
> screening when it came out.
>
> It's a dud, with some awful moments (a creepy Just
> Another Night performance), but the part in the
> jungle store where he's trying to convince the guy
> that he's "Mick Jagger" by jumping around to BS is
> priceless. Worth seeing if just for that moment.


"That´s me, Mickijaggeroo, I´m him!!"

That´s were I got my nick, many moons ago.

The film, while not Mick's finest hour, is not really all that bad. Think of it as one big music video. Some funny scenes, cute girls and mick as you don't usually see him! E-bay has hundreds of copys dirt cheap!

I take it this clip comes from the movie in question:

I LOVE THE SCENE WITH Jerry Hall and the swimming pool in the night. The last scene with the bus and the money is great.

I give it 1,2 out of 6 stars.



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Last night I watched a video compilation (A boot DVD I have) with some Jagger solo things on it. Just Another Night is a good song, but it sure as hell lacks Keith's guitar, Ronnie's lead, and Charlie's drums. And I REALLY hate when Jagger suddenly puts make-up on and gays it up with that awful coat. Shiver.

JumpingKentFlash

Agreed.

That shot where he and Rae Dawn are in the club, and he takes her bag, turns away and puts on make-up, and then reveals himself to her gave me a shiver as well. (and it's not like we're not used to seeing Mick with make-up on!)

He looked creepy--and yet the whole point was, "Don't I look great??" Rae Dawn had this look of awe on her face...and he looked stupid! There was a very strange disconnect between the viewer's reaction and what their intention was.

Just Another Night was a real low, in my opinion. Sonically, there wasn't one compelling moment for me.