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OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Hanns Rainsch ()
Date: August 25, 2006 13:21

Just received it and I must say that it is absolutely terrific.
It's incredible what a groove is on this CD, Dylan voice is also on top.
This man still has it at age 65.
Very beautiful artwork, too.
Your impressions ?

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Strike ()
Date: August 25, 2006 14:02

Fully agree, it`s a masterpiece.

It`s better to burn out than just to fade away....


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Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 25, 2006 14:08

I shall puuuuuuurchase at the weekend....


Love and theft was a blinder!

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: August 25, 2006 14:10

Just listened the whole album, and you feel like you are on a cloud and resting in peace, what a sweetness and great music and lyrics, que maravilla!!
Magnifico!!

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: MrBird65 ()
Date: August 25, 2006 19:40

Yeah, it's groovin...the music is great! Sometimes a little bit to sentimental for me - sometimes reminding me of Tom Waits who is to sentmental sometimes too(IMHO). But at all: If the boys had made a CD like Bobs...

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Edward Twining ()
Date: August 25, 2006 22:17

There's an authenticity about 'Modern Times' which is completely lacking in 'A Bigger Bang'. It's as though Bob's completely comfortable in his own skin while the Stones still feel the need to play a role.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: August 25, 2006 22:21

Is it out already? I thought it was next Tuesday in the USA. Where'd you guys get it?

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Edward Twining ()
Date: August 25, 2006 22:25

There's a link on the Buy/Sell/Trade page MicksBrain

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: MicksBrain ()
Date: August 25, 2006 22:28

OK thanks, E T, will have to zoom over there. Very excited about this one - it's been 5 years !! Thanks again...

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Barrence W ()
Date: August 25, 2006 22:31

I must be listening to a different record

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Edward Twining ()
Date: August 26, 2006 10:29

Modern Times has more in common with Love And Theft than it has with Time Out Of Mind with its rockabilly/blues/ country and jazz influence but it lacks the hard edge of Love And Theft. It's a lot softer even on the uptempo songs but that doesn't necessarily make it inferior. I remember Bob saying Love And Theft was like a collection of hits - this is not the case with Modern Times it's a lot more relaxed and Bob's in much more of a reflective mood.
I believe it's considerably better than Time Out Of Mind (i never could stand Daniel Lanois production) but it's less accessible than Love And Theft on the first few listens. Personally after listening to it at least a dozen times i believe it's equally as good although non-Dylan fans may lack the patience to allow it to grown on them.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Whale ()
Date: August 26, 2006 11:11

I f*%#g hate the record industry. It is still not available in shops. Because I want the joy of walking over the CD shop to get a copy, and enjoy whilst drinking a beer, I have to wait. They really want you to download it illegally dont they? So they can have the joy of sueing the customer. They hate their customers.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 26, 2006 12:31

Time Out Of Mind is an absolute masterpiece. Best Dylan album since Bloood On The Tracks.
I fell in love with it the day I bought it in '97, and listened to it continously for weeks and months afterwards.
Love And Theft was great as well, but the rag-tag slop of ideas and tunes thrown together makes it a bit inferior.
Not as cohesive as Time Out Of Mind, and thats where it lacks in quality. It's way overrated in that respect.
In my opinion, Time Out Mind was WAY better, I find no fault with it.


If the new album is anywhere as good as these two, then we should all be happy.
I've heard some of the new tunes and am overwhelmed, but I want to savour the moment properly,
and will wait for the cd to arrive.
I've read nothing but excellent reviews...the LA Times had an excellent article/interview today as a matter of fact.

And...Dylan is playing at the LA Forum in October.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: humanriff77 ()
Date: August 26, 2006 13:16

Its a wonderful record, its maybe not as strong as Time Out of Mind, but the 3 CD's really do fit together as a trilogy, I listened to them back to back yesterday. Fantastic creativity, channeling the whole of American roots music in these records. Lets be honest the Stones recorded legacy of the recent years is poor in comparison to Bob's, A Bigger Bang alone,doesnt stand up to these 3 superb records Dylan has made in the same time period,he certainly hasn't lost his muse, then again he doesn't have to rely on a writing partner he does everything himself.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: humanriff77 ()
Date: August 26, 2006 16:23

One other point, has anyone noticed the references to "Worried Life Blues" and "Down in the Bottom", maybe Bob has been downloading Stones bootlegs from IORR smiling smiley

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: August 26, 2006 16:32

MicksBrain Wrote:
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> Is it out already? I thought it was next Tuesday
> in the USA. Where'd you guys get it?


not in the USA!

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: August 26, 2006 16:50

Anybody have a link to that LA Times article/interview? I've searched and can't seem to find it, I did find this tidbit, however at [www.latimes.com]

Dylan Album To Debut On XM Radio

AT the stroke of midnight on Aug. 28, Bob Dylan's "Modern Times," his critically hailed first new studio album in five years, will have its premiere on XM Satellite Radio — one day before it hits record stores. The freewheelin' folk-country-blues-rocker began hosting a weekly program called "Theme Time Radio Hour" on XM in May.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 27, 2006 00:09

It was in the calendar section yesterday, and it was a review, not an "interview" as I mistakenly posted above.

[www.calendarlive.com]



POP ALBUM REVIEW
Seduced by the master once again
Saucy, romantic ... Bob Dylan? He's all that on "Modern Times," with a touch of the blues too.


By Ann Powers, Times Staff Writer


"Funny" and "sexy" are two words that don't often surface in the heap of praise directed at Bob Dylan. He's always been as skilled a wisecracker as a waxing poet, and who could doubt his penchant for romance? After all, he wrote "Lay Lady Lay." To his own chagrin, Dylan's spicy side has long been overshadowed by his talent for writing generational anthems.

Now, in the autumn of his years, he's rightfully admired for creating a body of work that's biblical in spirit and, virtually, size. But it's good to remember that his joke book packs as much punch as his archive of wisdom. And don't forget his little black book, either.



"Put some sugar in my bowl, I feel like laying down," Dylan, 65, sings on the make-out ballad "Spirit on the Water," borrowing the line from Nina Simone, who also knew that love, laughter and rage coexist on the same color wheel. The song is based around a descending guitar line as polished as a gigolo's smile. Its Hoagy Carmichael swing is only one sound explored on the new album "Modern Times," which also encompasses Chicago blues and — nothing else to call it — Dylanesque rock. But the song's seductiveness turns up everywhere. Recorded with Dylan's current touring band, which shows simpatico grace of an ensemble out to prove nothing beyond the pleasure of each other's company, this swinging, sometimes mournful, often tender set of 10 songs proves an easy album to, well, love.

"Modern Times" fulfills the mandate of a late Dylan album: its 10 songs make you think hard about the past and muse quietly about the future. Titles like "Thunder on the Mountain" feature apocalypse aplenty, and rejuvenating interpolations of source material from Muddy Waters, Carl Perkins and the like further Dylan's efforts to expose the "strong foundation," as he calls it, of his own work. But Dylan also gives a randy tickle to the funny bone and the family jewels, reminding us all that, in pop at least, profundities register better when stirred with something sweet.

The sauciness of "Modern Times" is a necessary complement to its more philosophical side. Though his personal eccentricities earn chuckles, Dylan's work is never taken lightly, partly because of his own legacy building. The process of Bob Beatification that's been going on since 1997 — the year he released his late-phase masterwork "Time Out of Mind" and survived a serious wake-up call in the form of a heart infection — has secured his status as Bard of Rock, whose music encapsulates everything serious and noble about American music. He's our living Rosetta stone, his songs carrying forth the essence of a thousand blues and folk classics, connecting the canonical and the folkloric to the present day.

Dylan has aided this process through several dramatic acts of self-documentation, most recently his memoir "Chronicles" and the Martin Scorsese-directed documentary "No Direction Home." He's been analyzed by Oxford don Christopher Ricks, named an album ("Love and Theft") after a study of blackface minstrels by University of Virginia prof Eric Lott, and continues to be regularly nominated for the Nobel Prize. Dylan's music supports these elevating moves: He's made three great records since hitting the age of AARP membership, each more explicitly grounded in arcane Americana, such as the borrowed Muddy Waters titles and the lyrical references to Mark Twain and Edgar Allan Poe. The case for Dylan as enduring Serious Artist has been secured by his own footnotes.

Yet even as Dylan transformed himself into Shakespeare, something else was happening. He was getting … looser. Maybe it started with the Traveling Wilburys, the supergroup that also featured a Beatle, George Harrison, shaking loose of his heroic shackles. In that band's 1990 single, "She's My Baby," Dylan sang about his girl sticking her tongue right down his throat. In the video, he's wearing a straw boater hat, a foreshadowing of the straight-out-of-"Deadwood" costumes he currently wears. He doesn't look as if he's making history. He looks as if he's having fun.

Fun has been a major aspect of Dylan's resurgence, though it's not often emphasized by the man himself or his iconographers. The lyric of "Highlands," the standout epic ballad from "Time Out of Mind," turned on a lengthy comedy routine involving a waitress and a hard-boiled egg. (There was also a line about Dylan's neighbors complaining that he was playing his Neil Young records too loud.) "Love and Theft," whose CD packaging included a staged "band rehearsal" photograph worthy of some folkie "Spinal Tap," started off with a musical sketch about two outlaw clowns named Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee and got more raucous from there. Now, with the more musically subdued "Modern Times," Dylan takes time to explore the nuances of romantic comedy, though his jokes usually carry a sting and his romance, like so many, ends in tears.

Charlie Chaplin, whose last silent film likely inspired the title of "Modern Times," invented a character similar to the one Dylan inhabits here. A sad sack with hidden powers, Chaplin's Little Tramp gets his girl only after many rounds of humiliation. Dylan exposes his own romantic desires and weaknesses throughout the songs of "Modern Times," pinning a rose to his torn lapel and crooning in that hard-won, threadbare voice:

I'm touched with desire

What don't I do?

Through flame and through fire

I'll build my world around you

The end times may be near, but that's no reason to stop spooning.

The image of an old man in full Casanova mode is one that makes many people uncomfortable. Dylan foregrounds the ludicrousness of his courting stance in "Thunder on the Mountain," the Chuck Berry-style romp that begins the album, by expressing a certain fascination with R&B singer Alicia Keys. Keys is not much older than Dylan's youngest daughter, and that's reason enough to snicker — no wonder Dylan weeps whenever he thinks of her, growling his admiration in a tone that only shows off his vocal decrepitude. But she's a ringer here.

The woman Dylan pursues throughout the fire and flood of "Modern Times" is someone who's been around much longer. She is the universal temptress who dances through Dylan's dreamscape: Call her Bathsheba, Salome or simply "sugar mama," as Dylan does. Innocent or a "lazy slut" (as Dylan indecorously calls her in "Rollin' and Tumblin," one of the album's Muddy Waters rewrites), momentarily captured or forever elusive, she represents the futility of pursuing anything but provisional happiness within a dying world. The one time Dylan does name her on "Modern Times" reinforces her unattainability: It's in the elegantly folkish "Nettie Moore," whose title he took from a mid-19th century song about a love affair destroyed when the woman, a slave, is sold.

Dylan's view of women is as traditional as his love of analog recording and old-timey songs. This self-proclaimed family man, who felt so little need to distinguish the identities of his ex-wives in his autobiography that he merged them, does seem a bit miffed that young women in particular exert so much pull over him. Yet even if the furious longing he expresses throughout "Modern Times" has one root in a pre-feminist's discontent with modern gender roles, it's also heavier than that. The silly, wretched pounding of Dylan's heart, like the ragged flower Chaplin's Tramp offers his tattered sweetheart, presents romance as the strategy against life's devastating assaults. This heroism, Dylan ruefully intimates, is bound to fail.

Such thoughts are as serious as the Louisiana flood Dylan spookily anticipated with 2001's "High Water," a disaster he addresses with bitter black humor here in "The Levee's Gonna Break." Like Chaplin getting stuck in the cog of a giant factory wheel in "Modern Times," Dylan plays up the touching absurdity of dire situations. This links him, as always, to the blues. Quoting the sources you'd expect — Memphis Minnie for that levee song, Big Joe Williams via Merle Haggard on "Workingman's Blues 2," three traditional songs in "Nettie Moore" — he strikes the shifting balance of bawdiness and sexual dread that typified the early blues, a music made by poor people, usually black and often female, for whom asserting desire was an act of near-revolution. In the songs Dylan admires and in many ways emulates, images easily move from the earthy to the surreal to the comic, remaining as unsettled as the feelings they express.

That's what happens in songs like "Thunder on the Mountain," in which the sexual metaphor "I got the pork chops, she got the pie" finds its way into scenes worthy of Revelations, or in the Patti Smith-style jeremiad "Ain't Talkin," which inserts a homely image borrowed from a bluegrass tune — "Eatin' hog-eyed grease in a hog-eyed town" — into a landscape otherwise rife with visions of eternal light. It seems that what Dylan wants us to remember about the traditional music he champions isn't that it was deeper or more serious than the well-engineered sounds that fill our ears now. It's that the old songs don't make distinctions between serious and funny, love and religion, the food of the body and the food of the soul. Like an old man and his "Modern" music, the old songs are beyond all that.



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Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: August 27, 2006 00:13

thanks for posting. Great article. Great record.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: stoned_in_dc ()
Date: August 27, 2006 03:39

first of all dylan is the man.. listened to his albums.. seen him at least 13 times live...

my first reaction is i like the more uptempo songs best.. there are 4 up tempo songs and 6 slow ones. .. the slow ones remind me a lot of of sugar babe/poor boy or those kinda songs from love and theft...

but i have only listened to it once... my initial impression is not to be overwhelmed by any songs as i was with time out of mind (i knew the first time i heard "not dark yet" that it was genius... can the same thing be said of any song from the new album? i have to listen to album more but my guess is going to have to be no)... i was not overwhelmed with love and theft but i've grow to really appreciate it in time..

the main thing that threatens my enjoyment of this album is its a bit too slow for me.. if all the songs were like the first song i'd be a little more into it.

but just initial thoughts from listening to a version i downloaded.....

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Charles ()
Date: August 27, 2006 04:36

Man,

it sucks still being unemployed. I'd flipped for the British vinyl if I had the dough.... I still can't believe Zimmy isn't playing any of the new songs during his current tour of baseball parks. He's playing here in new york next friday and I won't be going unless I can score a $20 ticket....anyone with an extra for a poor broke chronically unemployed broken albatross?

Charles Baudelaire
1821-1867

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: August 27, 2006 04:54

save your money if need be and catch him when he plays Meadowlands later in the year - Im sure you'll get some new songs then

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: humanriff77 ()
Date: August 27, 2006 20:52

I've listened to this record 15 times in the last few days. It is so amazing. I love it smiling smiley

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: wisertime ()
Date: August 27, 2006 21:27

humanriff77 Wrote:
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> I've listened to this record 15 times in the last
> few days. It is so amazing. I love it smiling smiley


Me too !!!! And I'm really happy to see that a lot of Stones fans like it.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: chippy ()
Date: August 27, 2006 21:29

4 stars = highest rating



all dose yrs. ago



Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: August 27, 2006 22:03

Modern Times is a great album, the songwriting is very impressive, but Bob Dylan`s voice has become weaker since Love and theft.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Beelyboy ()
Date: August 27, 2006 22:43

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Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: Nikolai ()
Date: August 27, 2006 23:57

It's better than Love & Theft and almost as good as Time out Of Mind, which was a masterpiece. Not a dull moment on the album. A remarkable achievement.

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: backstreetboy ()
Date: August 28, 2006 01:52

cant wait,love the last 2 records.toom,and lat.

john scialfa

Re: OT Dylan's Modern Times
Posted by: RoddyD ()
Date: August 28, 2006 05:39

Like it, but it's perhaps a little "rockabilly"....it don't ROCK...it's got a bit much 'finger-picking rock' like Travelling Wilburys...but Aint Talking.....whew, ripper!

Rod
Perth

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