to rip this,keith,s solo stuff a lot better than mick,s?must be a very bad joke

Rip This,

Am I alone in thinking that Let's Dance is Bowie's last really strong studio album? The tour was good, by all accounts. China Girl, Cat People, Modern Love.....they don't give me the impression of a man at a low ebb artistically!

back to Jagger.............

Mr Wibble Wrote:
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> Rip This,
>
> Am I alone in thinking that Let's Dance is Bowie's
> last really strong studio album? The tour was
> good, by all accounts. China Girl, Cat People,
> Modern Love.....they don't give me the impression
> of a man at a low ebb artistically!
>
> back to Jagger.............

Yeah, you asked Rip This...
I listen to lotsa Bowie, and I rarely play his Let's Dance album. I'm pleased if they play these songs in a club or something, while I'm there....but it's like he don't have anything important to say, it's just good songs, without more underneath. And even though the tour was allright, it can't be compared to his 76 or 78 tour.

China Girl I thought was an exception........but his last great studio work from beginning to end was Scarey Monsters; just after he had left Berlin and was finished with Brian Eno........but yes back to Jagger/She's the Boss......I just don't love the production sound from those 80's records...........and it's not just Jagger......there is a cheeze factor to many records during that time that I can't get past.....Madonna's Like a Virgin comes to mind.....

My nick, Mickijaggeroo is taken from "Running Out Of Luck", when he tries to explain who is is, in a little villagestore.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

what do you think of "Ruthless People"

ryanpow Wrote:
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> what do you think of "Ruthless People"


I believe Danny DeVito wrote the song for Jagger.
He played all the instruments too, and intsructed Jagger how to sing.
So, it worked, from Danny's point of view.

Rip This Wrote:
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> China Girl I thought was an exception........


He didn't even write that song I thought. I thought it was an Iggy song. I didn't check though, anyone know for sure?

Cindy, it's Iggy.
I care more for Bowie than Iggy, yet...Iggy's version is much better. With Bowie on piano by the way.

But "Neighbourhood Theat" is an even bigger dissapointment from Bowie. Iggy's version smokes, while Bowie's version is wet all the way through.

Cindy it's a Bowie/Pop song

Thanks guys, wasn't sure.

I like both versions, little bit of an edge to Iggy on that one.

Cindy, here is Iggy Pop & Bowie doing funtime in the 70s:

HAHAHA! That's awesome. On the Dinah Shore show no less! What a cool lady.

Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> ryanpow Wrote:
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> > what do you think of "Ruthless People"
>
>
> I believe Danny DeVito wrote the song for Jagger.
> He played all the instruments too, and intsructed
> Jagger how to sing.
> So, it worked, from Danny's point of view.


WOAH. I didnt know that

Cindy!

You GOT to see this :
(from Dinah show, with just Bowie...it's GREAT and hillarious!)

ryanpow Wrote:
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> WOAH. I didnt know that

He-he. I'm sorry, it was a terrible joke. But quite funny, if you can picture Danny instruct Jagger....

Danny Devito is the King of Rock N Roll

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> Cindy!

You GOT to see this from Dinah show, with just Bowie...it's GREAT and hillarious!)


I like how she kept calling him David Boo-ie!

CindyC Wrote:
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> I like how she kept calling him David Boo-ie!

Did you see how he snapped his teeth at the end?!?

Yeah! He had some crazy teeth back then.

I was never a great fan of the song Let's Dance...... but the line, and his delivery, "Put on your Red Shoes and Dance the Blues"......priceless.

Ummmm......and jagger's STB........ whether you like the album or not he sounds like he's having FUN on it .... less so on the others ...... they are more 'routine'

Mr Wibble Wrote:
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> I was never a great fan of the song Let's
> Dance...... but the line, and his delivery, "Put
> on your Red Shoes and Dance the
> Blues"......priceless.

Yes, it got it's moments. The recent live version of that song is also great.
Nevertheless, they're good songs...but they don't got that extra Bowie-spark.

Mr Wibble Wrote:
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> I was never a great fan of the song Let's
> Dance...... but the line, and his delivery, "Put
> on your Red Shoes and Dance the
> Blues"......priceless.
>
> Ummmm......and jagger's STB........ whether you
> like the album or not he sounds like he's having
> FUN on it .... less so on the others ...... they
> are more 'routine'

Ther is absolutely nothing routine about Jaggers later work especially Wandering Spirit or Godess. In fact Wandering Spirit is a masterpiece.

Rip This Wrote:
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> Ther is absolutely nothing routine about Jaggers
> later work especially Wandering Spirit or Godess.
> In fact Wandering Spirit is a masterpiece.

Those 2 CD's didn't interfere with what the Stones were doing either!!!

No Nick they weren't.............and it's an easy progression from Wandering Spirit to Godess to A Bigger Bang.

Its a so so album, and it really sounds dated now. I liked it when it came out because it just sounded so fresh compared to Undercover. IT'S A PERIOD PIECE. I remember a Jagger interview at the time where he talked about a Madonna album being danceable but dumb. He succeeded to do this with SHE'S THE BOSS

The one question I always wondered about is, for a guy like Mick Jagger who has written and more importantly (for this topic) produced so much of the Stones music (Yes Keith is the other 50%) Why did he need people like Dave Stewart and Nile Rodgers to help? This was something he had wanted to do for a while and it seemed like he went into it as if he was an up and coming artist. It also appears that he didn't learn his lesson teaming up with Stewart in the 80's and got burned again with this Alfie thang.

Well as Rip This would agree to, we do have Wandering Spirit...

Sorry,
Wandering Spirit is the ONLY Mick solo worth comparing to the Stones. She's the boss has a few nice moments, but like several posts said, it is intstantly pegged as an 80's indulgence....

Rip This,

I do absolutely agree about a progressive theme from Spirit through Goddess to ABB. But i don't like the latter much which explains why I'm not too keen on WS or Goddess. The songs are mainly 'good' - well structured and produced - but, for me, they lack an edge. Often like someone going through the motions.

For me, there's a vitality on STB, and there's something edgy and raw about Jeff Beck's work on it, (which is lacking on PrimCool).

And (for me) Lenny Kravitz is a far worse influence than the Rodgers and Stewarts of this world. He's Rock Muzak. Clever, clever. Slick, slick. No depth.