I heard that Syd was the most important member of the pink floyd(not sure on this) and that the others fired beacuse he was gone crazyetc.I don't say it all beacuse you know it.Does this look like Brian Jones case?

No, Brian was a fine musician, but Syd Barrett is one of the great originals of rock, the first Pink Floyd record, is one of 5 or 6 essential rock masterpieces of the sixties. But I am no Floyd fan, after Syd they mostly suck.
There is a cerian similarity between the 2 characters, both were fragile and would have been better off not taking acid like they did, for one it led to death another to madness.

I see similarities in Syd Barrett and Peter Green....both were the creative geniuses of their respective bands, Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac, then both went crazy and dropped out of society, living as hermits (although Peter Green actually did come out of his shell some in recent years), then both of their respective bands went on to great commercial successes after their departures.

Lukester Wrote:
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> I see similarities in Syd Barrett and Peter
> Green....both were the creative geniuses of their
> respective bands, Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac,
> then both went crazy and dropped out of society,
> living as hermits (although Peter Green actually
> did come out of his shell some in recent years),
> then both of their respective bands went on to
> great commercial successes after their departures.


Never heard this story of Peter Green, always though he was a (normal) geniuse.

I see similarities in Syd B and Brian J, John Lennon, Brian Wilson and Brian Eno they all are crazy BUT they are GOOD.

Must be in there names Brian Brain

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Did anyone see that movie Still Crazy that came out a few years back (pretty sure our Leonard did). But it was about a band in the 60's and the big talent was the guitar player, who supposedly goes crazy and is living in an asylum. Time passes and his legend grows. Eventually the band rejoins 20+ years later for a reunion tour and the guy comes out of the asylum and joins the band onstage.

I always liked to think that this was based on Syd and how exciting it would be if he was "cured" and returned to his loving fans. (I'm not really a fan, but still like the idea)

Wow Nicos - never heard of Peter Green and his story??

He wrote Black Magic Woman, who Santana made into his hit of hits

BB King once said to Eric Clapton & George Harrison (back in the 60's)
Sorry guys but Peter Green is the best guitarist in Britian!!!

Gary Moore says Peter was/is his favorite.

According to John McVie, Peter went off with some German dudes for a weekend
that had a "stunning" Blonde Bird in tow and whatever kind of bad LSD they gave
Peter is what did the trick, John said Peter was never the same after that,
John said if he ever saw those guys again he would punch their lights out!!!

MLC

Thanks for the info, that was new for me.

The last thing I read/heard from Peter Green was that the music he makes now is much better then what he did in the past.

I hate it when they say that.

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and whatever kind of bad LSD they gave Peter is what did the trick, John said Peter was never the same after that,


That is a really scary story. I never did LSD because I was scared that something like that might happened.

Long time ago when we were about in 6th grade my firnds and I gave one of our best friends' younger brother an LSD Trip. He had a horrortrip and never came back totally.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

CindyC Wrote:
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> MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> and whatever kind of bad LSD they gave Peter is
> what did the trick, John said Peter was never the
> same after that,
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>
> That is a really scary story. I never did LSD
> because I was scared that something like that
> might happened.


I never used it, because I know I couldn't fly.

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MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> Wow Nicos - never heard of Peter Green and his
> story??
>
> He wrote Black Magic Woman, who Santana made into
> his hit of hits
>
> BB King once said to Eric Clapton & George
> Harrison (back in the 60's)
> Sorry guys but Peter Green is the best guitarist
> in Britian!!!
>
> Gary Moore says Peter was/is his favorite.
>
> According to John McVie, Peter went off with some
> German dudes for a weekend
> that had a "stunning" Blonde Bird in tow and
> whatever kind of bad LSD they gave
> Peter is what did the trick, John said Peter was
> never the same after that,
> John said if he ever saw those guys again he would
> punch their lights out!!!
>
> MLC


Gary Moore made a whole album of Peter Green covers ...wich is very good thought..Yeah Peter had a hard time.

I remember an other member of the Fleedwood Mac, who got into religion to deep (can't recall his name) wasn't he also a guitar player ?

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> I remember an other member of the Fleedwood Mac,
> who got into religion to deep (can't recall his
> name) wasn't he also a guitar player ?

I remember Stevie Nicks...going Snow Blind.

I just found him.................


Jeremy Spencer (born 4 July 1948, in Hartlepool, United Kingdom), is a British musician, best known as one of Fleetwood Mac's first guitarists, joining the band in 1967. His speciality was the slide guitar, and he was strongly influenced by blues musician Elmore James. He remained with the band until February 1971, when he joined a religious group called the Children of God, with whom he still works.



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According to Mick Fleetwod they lost Peter Green for good in 1970. He was drawn towards a commune of acid (LSD) eating kids in Germany and never recovered. Among other indications of hermit-like behavior he grew extraordinaryly long finger nails, like Howard Hughes.

As for talk about LSD, I feel compelled to say, as mind blowing as it may be, it's not an addictive drug and in most circumstances is much less disruptive to one's body as compared to the powder drugs or even alcohol......or so I'm told. Chelsea I truly am sorry about your friend's brother.


Here's a little Pink Floyd trivia I bet you astute fans already know: the song "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" (from the album Wish You Were Here) was about Syd Barrett.



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My brother did LSD with a friend and he ended up running in the middle of a main road screaming that a car was following him. He ended up in the local hospital thinking he was dieing with all sorts of wires attached to him. I don't think my brothers taken it since because of that. Drugs have never really appealed to me. In fact, no drugs do. I used to smoke a bit of weed now and again and I've done the odd line of coke, but I firmly believe that dugs are illegal for a reason and should remain so.

From what I've read, Syd idolized Brian. Syd played slide electric guitar like Brian . . .

The entire "Dark Side of the Moon" is the story of Syd going crazy.

Thanks, Jed....I didn't comment on that earlier because I hadn't heard enough convincing stories................I'm with you, though, at least on some of the songs.

I read once that "Us and Them" (from Dark Side Of The Moon) was originally written, by Richard Wright I think, as the soundtrack to a film depicting two groups of men fighting violently against each other in slow motion. I forget who the opposing groups were but I think it was riot police with big sticks fighting against student protesters....not sure....but I'm almost positive it didn't have anything to do with Syd Barrett.



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Jed Clever Wrote:
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> The entire "Dark Side of the Moon" is the story of
> Syd going crazy.




And Wish You Were Here...alot of it is dedicated to Syd.
Story has it, Syd actually walked in on the sessions while they were recording Wish You Were Here after being absent for 5 years.
He then asked the band : "OK...when do I play the lead guitar part?" Poor guy, none of them recognized him, they said he was fat and bald and unrecognizeable. Sad story, he never has been able to battle his LSD demons successfully, he's still a recluse living in Cambridge taking long walks through the countryside.

AJed Clever Wrote:
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> The entire "Dark Side of the Moon" is the story of
> Syd going crazy.



All the Story of Pink Floyd from '70 is dedicate to Syd.
There are signs in Meddle(Fearless and Ecoes),Obscured by Cloud(Childhood's End,Stay ,ecc.),the wall(One of My Turns ,Hey You ,Comfortably Numb ,ecc.),The Final Cut(Paranoid Eyes,The Final Cut ),A Momentary Lapse of Reason (Sorrow ),The Division Bell (Lost For Words and High Hopes ).
In all Story of Pink Floyd, David and Roger celebrate Syd.
Brian never celebrate from Mick and Keith(except Continental Drift,ispirated to JouJouka).
This is a hole in Stones Story.
Brian was essential for the Stones like Syd for the Pink Floyd.
I see them very similar, and I love them both
Sici

a recent pic of Syd

only stones Wrote:
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> AJed Clever Wrote:
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> > The entire "Dark Side of the Moon" is the story
> of
> > Syd going crazy.
>
>
>
> All the Story of Pink Floyd from '70 is dedicate
> to Syd.
> There are signs in Meddle(Fearless and
> Ecoes),Obscured by Cloud(Childhood's End,Stay
> ,ecc.),the wall(One of My Turns ,Hey You
> ,Comfortably Numb ,ecc.),The Final Cut(Paranoid
> Eyes,The Final Cut ),A Momentary Lapse of Reason
> (Sorrow ),The Division Bell (Lost For Words and
> High Hopes ).
> In all Story of Pink Floyd, David and Roger
> celebrate Syd.
> Brian never celebrate from Mick and Keith(except
> Continental Drift,ispirated to JouJouka).
> This is a hole in Stones Story.
> Brian was essential for the Stones like Syd for
> the Pink Floyd.
> I see them very similar, and I love them both
> Sici


Yup, that is the difference; Mick and Keith.

NICOS Wrote:
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> Thanks for the info, that was new for me.
>
> The last thing I read/heard from Peter Green was
> that the music he makes now is much better then
> what he did in the past.
>
> I hate it when they say that.

It was great when Peter Green finally broke out of his self-imposed isolation some years ago. Unfortunately he'll never be the same guitar-player again. He received standing ovation when he appeared at the RAH in March 2004 at a charity concert with among others Eric Clapton and Bill Wyman. His playing was however dreaful. I think most of us that night felt very sad.
Jeremy Spencer is alive...and playing. See [www.jeremyspencer.com]
And [media.xfamily.org]

Someone above also mentions Brian Eno as being "crazy". Personally I don't think you can a find a more "normal" person in the music business. Almost all of us listened to his "music" every day when we opened Windows 95.

A bit off topic here but i always wandered what the story behind Fleetwood Mac is. I have there first couple of albums and they are great blues albums. Somewhere after that they made totally different albums with a female vocalist. Much more pop orientated. I absolutely love the song Dreams. BEAUTIFULL SONG!!!!

Cheers,
Wuudy

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> A bit off topic here but i always wandered what
> the story behind Fleetwood Mac is. I have there
> first couple of albums and they are great blues
> albums. Somewhere after that they made totally
> different albums with a female vocalist. Much more
> pop orientated. I absolutely love the song Dreams.
> BEAUTIFULL SONG!!!!


I think the story is that they were a London blues band with a lot of problems. Maybe so many problems that they decided to change things completely and start all over. As a non-fan, that’s the only way I can sum it up. Aside from the having the same drummer and bassist, the late 60's Fleetwood Mac has absolutely ZILCH in common with the American soft rock act of the 70's and 80's. It's almost as if they are two completely different bands.

As a Stones-fan I'm quite sure you would like this very much :

[www.amazon.com]

Wuudy...as I see it Fleetwood Mac's metamorphosis came about as they followed the lead of their front man....after Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer's departures they hooked up with Bob Welch to play guitar and share the singing with Christine McVie. They put out some beautiful albums, Mystery To Me (with that killer song Hypnotized) and Bare Trees...then Welch left in 1974, I think, and along came two unknowns from the bar scene in LA, Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham...their debut album went platinum and the rest is pop history.



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Thanks for the info guys!!!

It's strange to make such a huge change in direction but if half the band was replaced it makes more sence. I really liked the early blues period after that they had some beautifull songs but i only know the hits. It a bit to soft for my taste. But again, Dreams is a pearl. The vocals are sooo good, they just hypnotise you when you listen to the song. What are the titles of there other hits i forgot?

Cheers,
Wuudy

"The lunatic is on the grass...."

I guess they couldn't say "The lunatic is on the ass (acid)...."