Sorry to say folks, little dissapointed in the show last night. Setlist was okay, but they certainly could have thrown a few more hits in there, it's not like they have a huge amount of them. Crowd wasn't really into it and you could tell that whenever they went into one of those jams that goes on forever they lost people's interest. And for those who say Dylan is impossible to understand try figuring out what Robinson is singing when you don't know the song. Sound was not all that great either. Enjoyed the two covers (Up on cripple creek and alabama) but thought Instant Karma was a strange encore. Robinson hardly sang all night which was odd as well. Okay but I was dissapointed.

Jackass Wrote:
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> Setlist was okay, but they
> certainly could have thrown a few more hits in
> there, it's not like they have a huge amount of
> them.

Oddly enough people don't like it when bands play their hits.

where was this show?

jackass, you sound like a '40 licks fan' when it comes to the crowes!

Seems pointless to me going to a gig and not hearing the hits????

Like trainspotting wiv out the trains.......

It was at Massey Hall in Toronto. And no, I'm not a 40 Licks Crowes fan but I just stated how I felt about the show. And judging by the crowd I wasn't alone.I didn't hate the show, it just doesn't rank up there on my favorites list and I wouldn't be overly enthusiastic about seeing them again. It's great that the drummer is back, he was awesome last night.

Stones wannabees

Steven Wrote:
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> Stones wannabees


Aren't we all?

ablett Wrote:
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> Seems pointless to me going to a gig and not
> hearing the hits????
>
> Like trainspotting wiv out the trains.......

I'll have to remember that one.

I've seen the Black Crowes 6 times - 3 good shows, 2 not so good shows and one that was down right terrible.

These guys remind me a lot of The Replacements...sometimes they're the best band in the world and sometimes the worst depending on what night you catch them.

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sometimes they're the best band in
> the world and sometimes the worst depending on
> what night you catch them.


That's also true for the Stones sometimes ;_)

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> Goldsmith Wrote:
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> >
> sometimes they're the best band in
> > the world and sometimes the worst depending on
> > what night you catch them.
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> That's also true for the Stones sometimes ;_)

There is a quote that says the Stones are always good but on some nights they are f...ing good - I remember Keef said something similar...

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> I've seen the Black Crowes 6 times - 3 good shows,
> 2 not so good shows and one that was down right
> terrible.
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> These guys remind me a lot of The
> Replacements...sometimes they're the best band in
> the world and sometimes the worst depending on
> what night you catch them.


Agreed. The last time I saw them was in a (sold out) club on a Sunday night a few years ago right before they broke up. They did a bunch of long jams seemingly to fill up the time and Rich Robinson looked like he would rather be anywhere rather than where he was.

But they are a great band, no doubt.

I saw them twice in 2001 on the Brotherly Love tour with Oasis.

Granted, I went for Oasis, but I was always a casual Crowes fan so I was pretty psyched to finally see them.

They were awful - aimless jams, no dynamics, overall just really boring. I understand it was only a couple of months before they split, so maybe there was bad blood happening onstage, but I was really shocked by how utterly lousy they were.

I loved the first two albums and went to alot of shows in that era.
But then they turned into the Allman Brothers and i haven't seen them since.

they must have used up all their greatness in London

hi folks,

Can someone tell me which Black Crowes shows from 2005 USA tour were the best??

you can order them by instant street - and they did some great covers (also Stones)

thanks,
jo

Alright i have to dissagree with jackass. i was there last night at massey hall and i thought it was an amazing show. Now granted i enjoy the long jams, and especially the songs that they chose to jam with, but i thought the whole show rocked. I was totally shocked and thrilled that they played instant karma as an encore.

hmmm. Well I will be drunk this friday when I see the Black Crowes and I hope they do better. I hate that long jamming shit. Sometimes its good. Recently I saw O.A.R a college kinda smoke pot band. Much of the show was jamming and if the audio is mixed right it can work. But alot of times the bass and drums are to loud.
I've been studying the Crowes setlist on their official website and I dont know half of those songs. I've listen several times over to Lions, Moneymaker, Southern Harmony, and Amorica. I'm worried about this show on friday with Jackass' report. I guess I will have to drink more.

that is usually a solution to most problems

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> hmmm. Well I will be drunk this friday when I see
> the Black Crowes and I hope they do better. I hate
> that long jamming shit.


Then why go? That'd be like going to see Phil Lesh & Friends - which I'm doing this week - but were not a fan of jamming. That's what THEY DO at these shows. Why tortuure yourself if you don't like it?

I think Lady Jane's take on the show is more credible....seen the Crowes a few times (and have many of their shows in my collection) and they ALWAYS deliver the goods, IMO...

Why Go?

Already payed 175 for 3 tickets. Its at a Casino where I am going to gamble and I need a break from summer school. And just like all those stones fans we dislike I am exctied to see how they play the hits. I want to see whether they work for me like the do on an album. Remedy, think and thin, and Jealous again. Songs like that. Also who doesnt enjoy the enviorment of a good concert.

okay - but at least half of the show will be that long jamming that you hate. so, long as the buyer is aware, you got nothing to moan about later....

Ohh yes now I am aware. Certaintly from Jackass' review I understand more what I am getting. Also from reading their setlist there seems to be alot of jamming between songs. But I will probaly still moan but not as bad. I mean if the jamming is bad then its bad. But maybe they can change my mind. Thats the beauty of live concerts!

You are bang on too about the drums and bass being too prominent during the jams, just had that conversation with a buddy of mine over lunch. But hey, everyone has their tastes and opinions which is what makes life interesting. Perhaps it was a bit of an off night for the band, or maybe it was just me (but again, looking around the auditorium and listening to folks after the show I don't think so) but it's not like I suddenly hate them. Saw Phil Lesh a few years ago when he toured with Dylan, left after what I think was one song, there was no way of telling one from another.

beauty Wrote:
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> hi folks,
>
> Can someone tell me which Black Crowes shows from
> 2005 USA tour were the best??
>
> you can order them by instant street - and they
> did some great covers (also Stones)
>
> thanks,
> jo

Why not try some at bt.etree.org? A lot of show can be downloaded there for free. Great quality too by the way.

review courtesy of jam.canoe.ca tends to be of same point of view as Jackass:


Massey Hall, Toronto - May 16, 2006

By BILL HARRIS - Toronto Sun


TORONTO - The Black Crowes didn't have that many hits, so it would have been nice had they played them all last night.

They didn't play Hard To Handle.

They didn't play Jealous Again.

They didn't play She Talks to Angels.

They didn't get around to Twice As Hard until almost two hours into their concert at Massey Hall.

And their encore consisted of one song: John Lennon's Instant Karma.


The Crowes did a nice job with it, actually. But it still was an odd choice, given the many unmined nuggets from their own repertoire.

The Black Crowes always have seemed a little high on themselves, and that's fine, since arrogance is a big part of rock and roll.

But one of the main purposes of arrogance is to annoy the people who don't like you, not the people who do.

Led by the Brothers Robinson (Chris, a.k.a. Mr. Kate Hudson, on vocals and Rich on guitar), the Black Crowes are touring again for no particular reason that we can deduce. Commercially they're about as hot as Hudson's acting career.

In a way that's a shame, since the Crowes had a pretty good bluesy, Southern-rock, hippie-wardrobe thing going back in their heyday.

But that was 15 years ago. Their commercial radar has been on the fritz for a long time.

Tiny Massey Hall was about 25% empty when the band took the stage last night, but the venue slowly filled to near-capacity. That usually means the scalpers cut their losses and held a garage sale.

The current approach of the six-member band, which has the bulk of its original members back, was in evidence a couple of songs into the proceedings: Long solo after long solo after long solo.

Guitar, keyboards, more guitar, drums. Does anyone in the stands want to have a go, too?

Chris Robinson still is a fairly charismatic frontman with a good set of pipes, but he went through several

10-minute stretches where he had absolutely nothing to do except hop and clap. He was reduced to bit-player status and had to pretend he was enjoying it.

Every time Chris stepped away from his mike and stood in front of the drum kit, you almost could hear at least half the audience moaning, "Oh no, here we go again."

This particular style still appeals to some music fans, presumably. Like, if you're old enough to have attended Woodstock in 1969 and your lasting impression was, "You know, those three days of music could have used a few more interminably long solos."

The show last night had the feel of a rehearsal. A good-natured rehearsal with some excellent musicians, mind you, but a rehearsal nonetheless.

"Any time you can play a couple of hours of music in a beautiful venue that doesn't have a rave afterward, that's great," Chris Robinson said early in the proceedings. "I'm not saying Ecstasy is bad, but if it makes you listen to that type of music, it must be evil."

A funny line, for sure. But one might ask Robinson, "What drug does one need to endure the type of music your band is playing these days?"

sometimes you get good crowes
sometimes you get bad crowes...

regretabally, the crowes are one of those bads that if any of them are in a bad mood, it affects the whole group...that is what makes them interesting to see...now sure you'll be pissed off if you get a bad show, but think of how you'll feel if you get one that rips up?

I love The Black Crowes and have never been disappointed by their live performance. They are on a list of bands I'll always go see. Got tix for next month at the Greek. Can't wait.

Well lets hope this friday rips. I called three days ago and they said the venue is 80% filled.