loog droog Wrote:
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>
> I saw L & G dozens of times in the '70s, and
> after awhile I noticed there were some backing
> vocals at the end of "Happy" where no one was near
> a microphone!
>
>
> All of the footage shot for this film was
> originally intended to be a part of the movie that
> Robert Frank was shooting during the tour (which
> eventually became @#$%& Blues) The crew that
> shot the John Lennon One To One concert in NYC was
> recommended by Yoko Ono, hence the credit she gets
> at the end.
>
> They couldn't decide who should get credit as the
> director, so it was decided by a flip of a coin.
> A guy who wasn't there during filming (but helped
> determine the whole look and pace of the film
> during post-production) named Rollin Binzer won,
>
> Years later I noticed his name on the back of an
> album by Blue Oyster Cult. He designed the cover.
>
>
> This film was created as a total experience, and I
> hope that when the finally put the DVD out they
> include the 20 minutes or so of JUST SOUND of the
> crowd at the beginning before the concert starts.
>
>
> This film is a wonderful document of the Stones at
> their peak. I remember Robert Hilburn (of the LA
> Times) complaining that it didn't have
> split-screens like the Woodstock movie!! He was
> crazy--you get completely drawn into this
> film...the editing is invisible, i.e. perfect.
> Great pace throughout.
>
>
>
>
>

Cool post. I love this movie, my favorite of favorites--it is the band at it's zenith. The backlighting, while a novel idea, does not really work and that makes it draker then it should have been.

I thought Klein was responsible for the video release of RnR Circus.

At least as of Last Friday nite Greenwich Village was alive and well with Stones bootlegs--I could not agree more--doesn't the FBI (good grief!) have better things to investigate then a couple of record stores in Manhattan?

the absolute best version of gimme shelter that they have ever done is from
the L&G film, keith is at the top of his game on this one

MicksBrain Wrote:

> So Does ANYBODY on IORR KNOW WHAT THE HOLD UP IS
> !?!? Someone's gotta know something...... Where's
> the effing DVD?.....

The decision of releasing any live recordings from the past has to be taken by both Mick and Keef. I have read statements from Richards that he sees no problem in "handing out" some unreleased gems. Some years ago both he and Ronnie said at different occasions that the band were about to release a whole box with unreleased gems! On the other hand, Mick personally put his foot down when the Dick Carvett show was about to be released with footage and sound of the band playing at Madison in '72. After reconsidering, he did at the last minute decide that it was ok, but without the Mick Taylor solos. As I see it, the problem narrows down to Jagger. One can only speculate on what reasons he's got for not wanting to dig into the past. My guess is that he has several reasons for it. Maybe Jagger simply just wants to focus on the present. Also he might not want the guitar duel (Wood vs. Vibrato) to disturb what they're doing now. Unreleased live gems can probably constitute a good retirement. Besides, maybe he like to think about the fact that the band doesn't need to release any material that Allen Klein had his claws in. Thirdly, with not releasing any of the Taylor era live recordings, he certaintly makes this a big mysterious thing, and many of us (including myself) is definetely getting hysterical about it There are probably many more reasons too...

Good post S.T.P.!
Mick's refusal of the Taylor solo at NY 72, is one of the most stupid thing I've heard about Micks decisions. He's turning "old"-Stones into an enemy of the present Stones.

No, these new version are from an entirely new source....Bad Wizards version is the best that I have seen, and I have them all....at least 10 different sources on video tape, and 4 different DVDs.

JR

Good point! It's really awkward... He's making it a big thing.

S.T.P Wrote:
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> Good point! It's really awkward... He's making it
> a big thing.


Oops, meant as a reply to Erik_Snow...

Its NOT overdubbed...they sometimes used different video footage for the audio tracks. No need for it to be officially released...the boots are near perfect.

JR

Yeah, I read that the best / latest DVD of Ladies and Gentlemen is in Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound and rated about a 9.5 compared to a 10 (official release) Is that the one you're talking about stone-relics ? Do you agree with a 9.5 rating or is that a bit too high ?

stone-relics Wrote:

No need for it to be officially released...the boots are near
perfect.


Not even the Brussels tapes are near perfect when it comes to sound. All the live recordings from the seventies were done bye the rolling stones mobile recorder which was considered as one of the best mobile recording units in the world.

i got the geniune masters & the sound is incredible , better than alot of official releases, a cool fact about that tour was the super brite house lites chip monk used ,they the 1s halfway & in back of arena that usually follow mick around, jagger probly wanted them 2 show off all the glitter he wore on himself , u can c them really good on down the line in l & g movie , mick, keith & taylor look like ghosts sometimes they so brite ,heres some brite house lites shots philly & n.y.

this 1 straight from the negative,notice the floor of stage how brite,ya can't even c jaggers shoes

I have the 4 Reel Production of this DVD. How does it compare with the Genuine Masters version?

i hav 4 reel 2, g m's sound is much better , i wonder how 4 reel new hampton 81 is , any1 no

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