Interesting interview with Bill in the Guardian today

[www.guardian.co.uk]

cool, thanks for the link!
this statement struck me as weird: "While Mick Jagger and Brian Jones came from the upper middle class ... "

*upper* middle class?! that seems pretty revisionist!

Great interview- his opinions of Mick and the stories he tells
are fascinating.

Yeah, this interview draws a really friendly picture of the man.

Well, Jagger would be upper MC. Jones without any doubt, if not higher up.
Keith I´d place in LMC.

...Ya don't happen to have a direct link, Humanriff?

[arts.guardian.co.uk]

Cheers,
Wuudy

Nice, thank ya! ...After readin', I agree with the writer
than Keith is workin' class (forget my writin' above).

Hmm.. seems OK.. thanks for reporting it to us! But it's all been said before..

Great interview with Bill (thanks for the info HumanRiff77). Comes off as a very nice, regular guy. Interesting take on Jagger, "I think he's unhappy.." Same thing Keith was saying during the 80's break up - too many, too close, too often...

Thanks! Great reading. Click on to the other links to read Jagger's interview.

Yeah, Jagger's interview was VERY interesting in a weird way

Where can I find Jagger's interview please?


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Wuudy's postin' has a direct link!!

Here's a real direct link to Bill's interview: [www.guardian.co.uk]

Jagger's here: [arts.guardian.co.uk]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-03-10 16:37 by Koen.

Sorry, Lorenz, didnt see ya asked for "Jagger´s" interview -
Thank ya Koen for the links...
It´s a misfortune our ink just ran dry in the printer.

Interesting interviews - thanks for the links.

Thanks. Interesting. Nice guy. And have the confirmationthat he is still the owner of that sympathetic place : Sticky Fingers restaurant. I hope to meet some others on this board before the Wembley Gigs. I am surprised he did not talk about the JJF co-signing.

good interview, but if the stones are a parody then isnt bill also?

Yeah Brian was Upper Middle Class, with all the high expectations along with it as he was growing up.....had a very posh accent too.

The great Baboon Bro interviewed Bill and might sent you a copy if you'll act right (and beg).

If he doesn't mind, I could fix up you people in the USA with a disc of the interview. Postage from Sweden = $$$$

I agree that the class analysis of the individual stones tends to sound like revisionist bs. How is it that everyone's favorite, keith, now always comes in as the lower middle class underdog, while mick and brian are "posh"?

Serious question: can one even recognize upper and lower divisions to the british middle class in the 1940s?

I could listen to Bill or Charlie all day. In many ways, they are always more interesting than Mick because they are just more honest, while Mick always appears aware of the camera.

i don't pretend to be any kind of expert on the British class structure in the 40s/50s,
but just looking at how their backgrounds have been presented by themselves, each other, assorted writers, onlookers, etc,
it seems like Mick's family has always been described as being a *little* better situated than Keith's and Bill's, but certainly not *upper* middle class -
that's the bit i thought sounded revisionist. Brian's family has certainly always been said to be the best off of the lot.

ahhh, who cares - the Stones are all in a class by themselves anyway.
it just sounded weird to me to suddenly claim Mick grew up "upper middle class" just because he's now got a title.
Mick Jagger: listen to that! "a name you could open sardine tins with" as Stanley Booth so nicely put it. upper middle my sweet ass. :E


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Pretty funny that Bill is described as always being prompt. I think it was his late arrival at Altamont that caused the band to take the stage long after night had fallen.

>> I think it was his late arrival at Altamont that caused the band to take the stage long after night had fallen. <<

Bill says that's not the case, and lots of people involved say the Stones went on after dark because that's what the plan had been all along.
there was a long wait before they started, but that was more because of an act or two backing out at the last minute than it was due to the Stones being late.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> i don't pretend to be any kind of expert on the
> British class structure in the 40s/50s,

Maybe some here are? preferably some who like you don't allow their affection for keith to dupe them into making him "the winner" in every compare-a-stone contest. The Guardian article was an example... keith's playing for a few minutes with bill's kids becomes some sort of testament to his churchillian humanity, while mick is a reptilian ogre. Piffle.

smile: are you American by any chance, CC?
the world has of course changed some, but the idea that being a "self-made man" is heroic has traditionally been more American than British.
that is: i don't think this author was trying to put Mick down by spiffing up his class background.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

So, does the fact that the interview was inside the Sticky Fingers restaurant mean Bill still owns it, or has he sold it to someone else?

Either way, it sounds like it has some amazing memorabilia. I'd love to see Bill's homemade bass that he used in the band's early days. Has anybody been to Sticky Fingers and if so what guitars, etc. do they have?