Hello,

I see that the estimated crowed for the Stones show at Coppacabana, Rio, Brazil on 18 Feb 2006 is between 1,500,000 and 2,000,000.

The Rod Stewart concert on 31 Dec 1994 has an estimated 3.5 million.
QUESTION--was the estimated Stewart concert on 31 Dec 1994 predicted beforehand to be attended by 3.5 million? What I am getting at is: did the predicted number match the estimated attendance?

Do the Stones stand a chance at exceeding 3.5 million? I can't see how the upcoming actual attendance could be 1.5 million more than predicted. But, I don't know how these things work.

Any thoughts on this?

redrum

i can't see how there are gonna be 1,5 million people on that beach when i see pictures of the beach.. sure it looks big.. but 1,5 million people ?

Tell me... Sister M... Wrote:
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> i can't see how there are gonna be 1,5 million
> people on that beach when i see pictures of the
> beach.. sure it looks big.. but 1,5 million people
> ?


what you probably didn't realize is that although this is free, there are still two kinds of tickets:

1) Standing
2) Swimming

Don't forget the fans on boats.

I think they bury some people in the sand to make room.

The Rod Stewart concert happened during a new year celebration at Copacabana Beach, where most of the people go to party, see fireworks etc.

Although the 3,5 million people were at the whole beach and not there to see the concert, it was registed in the guiness book as a record.

"The Rod Stewart concert happened during a new year celebration at Copacabana Beach, where most of the people go to party, see fireworks etc.

Although the 3,5 million people were at the whole beach and not there to see the concert, it was registed in the guiness book as a record. "

If it hadn't been for New Year, Rod wouldn't have gathered 3,5 million people - much less..... most people came for New Year...... that you can see every year in Rio.....

By looking at the pictures I also can't imagine there is room for one or two people on this beach. Bjoernulf mentioned the sound towers and that the gap between these towers is for about 200,000 people each. I would guess 20,000 seems more realistic to me. And the main area in front of the stage would never hold 200,000 people either. Any field show on the latest tours in Europe probably had more room than this main area near the stage and the number of people at these field shows (in Europe) were 50 000 to 80 000. So if people talk of estimated 1 or 2 million people that probably includes all tourists being in Rio for that weekend but I don't think the actual crowd on the beach will be more than 100 000 or maybe a bit more. But that's only guessing from the pictures Bjoernulf has posted. Maybe it's much bigger than it seems....

Tell me... Sister M... Wrote:
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> i can't see how there are gonna be 1,5 million
> people on that beach when i see pictures of the
> beach.. sure it looks big.. but 1,5 million people
> ?


You'd be surprised how many can actually be there. It's estimated that the entire population of the earth can in fact stand on the small Danish island of Bornholm. You wouldn't think that could happen either, but it can.....

JumpingKentFlash

"By looking at the pictures I also can't imagine there is room for one or two people on this beach"....... Sorry, of course I meant "one or two MILLION"

On french papers today estimates vary from 1 to 2 millions . The funny thing is that on some they talk about this event on the economy section describing The Stones as the greatest music cash machine.

Half a million people turned up to see Lenny Kravitz at the Copacabana last year.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-02-18 13:47 by erikjjf.

"By looking at the pictures I also can't imagine there is room for one or two people on this beach"....... Sorry, of course I meant "one or two MILLION"

I have been on Copacabana several times and can't see any problem gathering 1-2 million people - the ebach is enormous and there is lots of space....

A french radio just said that The Stones rocked Rio, entirely fulled up Copaccabana and estimated the crowd to over 1 Million.

The latest estimate I saw from google news search is 2 million

The beach was full.
Av. Atlantica (the wide street next to the beach) was over-full, totally packed.
Few people in the boats. So forget about them. A few thousand.
I would leave it to the authorites to give an official count.
But to me it looked like a million before the warmup is on.
So may be 1.5 mill.

The New Years Eve party is not just like a show. It is an event. If a street musicin is playing Times Square on New Year's Eve in New York City does he then have a crowd of a millon? I don't think so. Forget about ole Rod.

Bjornulf

Thanks, BV. You surely had a Stones Time by what I saw.

bv Wrote:
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> The beach was full.
> Av. Atlantica (the wide street next to the beach)
> was over-full, totally packed.
> Few people in the boats. So forget about them. A
> few thousand.
> I would leave it to the authorites to give an
> official count.
> But to me it looked like a million before the
> warmup is on.
> So may be 1.5 mill.
>
> The New Years Eve party is not just like a show.
> It is an event. If a street musicin is playing
> Times Square on New Year's Eve in New York City
> does he then have a crowd of a millon? I don't
> think so. Forget about ole Rod.
>
> Bjornulf

I saw 2.1 million on the news.

Fantastic.

I'm just going by the size of those monster jams in Central Park... with Garth Brooks...

or Woodstock where we know there was around 300 to 400,000...

This thing struck me as easily 2 Woodstocks if not 3...

So Bayou's estimate is prolly 800,000 to 1.2 million or so....

And given the city it's in, there's easily that many people who can show up... Between Rio AND Sao Paolo there's prolly close to 1.5 or 2x the population of greater New York... and there's alot of tourists in town... AND it's free... AND it's the Stones of all bands...

Imagine if the Stones did Central Park instead of Garth Brooks... there'd be way over a million people there if they could fit...

"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-02-19 12:05 by BornOnTheBayou.

Brazilian Newspapers estimating:

Folha de Sao Paulo: 1,3 mio
Oglobo: 1,2 mio
Estadao: > 1,0 mio
Terra: 2,0 mio

NY Times write 1.5 millions .( ny.com)
Reuters : over 1 million ( Reuters.com)
France national tvs : beach overcrowded and well over 1 Million. By the way
great coverage.

Lets say the beach and the boulevard is appr. 250 mtrs wide and some 2 kms long. So in total 500.000 sqare meters. Say an average of 3 people per square meter, makes 1.5 million people...

Agree.That should be the number. Not bad after all.