Johnny Winter And was truly one of the greatest power quartets in history, sort of "Derek and the Dominoes on speed"...
...they pumped out some great music. For scorching blues rock they didn't take a back seat to anybody. I can remember when their albums came out, weren't any like them.
"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."
DGA35 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Midnight Toker, > > You say KISS is awful but you list Roxy Music?!? > To each his own. > > It was KISS Alive in 75 that was overdubbed, which > I only found out because of one of those VH1 > specials. Regardless, name me one live CD by any > band that isn't overdubbed or cleaned up? > Certainly none of the Stones live albums. The > only one I can think of off hand is If You Want > Blood by AC/DC recorded on their Powerage tour > 1978. Feedback,etc. all left on.
All of the Stones albums have overdubs on them. Its kinda the norm now for many acts, but wasnt always
Its too Late To Stop Now by Van Morrison is one particularly good one I can think of that wasnt. I'd imagine most of Neil Young's are 'undoctored' as well.
BornOnTheBayou Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young is a helluva > unique "quartet" if you don't mind some backing > musicians in the shadows.
I was kind of wondering if anyone was going to acknowledge CSNY. Certainly when in their acoustic mode, they are an amazing quartet. (Electric is mighty, but not a foursome.)
> Crazy Horse is just a monster of a band too... > basically intact since the early 70s they should > do a pure NY & CH tour to make up for the last > disaster "Greendale Tour".
Can't for the life of me figure out why there was so much resistance to "Greendale." So bluesy, such great Jimmy Reed-style grooves all over that disc. And "Falling From Above?" "Carmichael?" "Sun Green?" "Bandit?" Some of his best things ever. Listen to the nasty harp playing and the boogie on "Sun Green"--what a rush. "Bandit" is as gorgeous an acoustic ballad as he has ever done; it smokes anything on "Harvest."
I saw three "Greendale" shows. I was wary at first, but wound up enjoying the album material way more than the (very hot) "retro" sets at the end.
He's a man who is willing to push his audience and show them something new. In Hershey, PA, I sat next to four college kids who knew every single word to the "Greendale" record. That was inspiring.
"If you wanna go ridin' in the tall green grass, ya better not spook The Horse."
Top ten quartets: The Beatles Led Zeppelin The Who The Doors The Replacements The Pixies CCR Pink Floyd The Clash RHCP
Missed it by that much: Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Honorable mention: David Bowie & The Spiders From Mars The Sex Pistols Iggy & The Stooges The Kinks The Ramones Jane's Addiction U2 Queen Bad Company Van Halen (original)
Rev. Robert W. Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BornOnTheBayou Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- >> > > Crazy Horse is just a monster of a band > too... > > basically intact since the early 70s they > should > > do a pure NY & CH tour to make up for the > last > > disaster "Greendale Tour". > > Can't for the life of me figure out why there was > so much resistance to "Greendale." So bluesy, such > great Jimmy Reed-style grooves all over that disc. >
There were 2 main problems, not so much with the CD as with the tour:
1) It wasn't a conventional tour... it was more like "The Greendale Stage Play" with all those actors and that faux house set up... with Grandma and Grampa rocking on the front porch and the little girl running around...
The average Neil Young fan wasn't there to see a Stage Play... it was cool for the first 4 songs or so ...
2) Then the HORROR when you realized that THIS IS THE SHOW... 2/3 of the show at least is this stage play...
Then you get maybe 3 Crazy Horse songs... what you really came for in the first place.
It would be like going to a Stones show and getting the ENTIRE ABB album before you got the first "classic" stones song.
The only more disappointing gig I ever attended was that disastrous Who "Quadrophenia" tour... you keep thinking and hoping, when are they gonna play something besides this junk... but you got like 2 non-Quadro songs.
[Preparing to dodge flames from Quadro fans]
"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."
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> It would be like going to a Stones show and > getting the ENTIRE ABB album before you got the > first "classic" stones song. > > The only more disappointing gig I ever attended > was that disastrous Who "Quadrophenia" tour... you > keep thinking and hoping, when are they gonna play > something besides this junk... but you got like 2 > non-Quadro songs.
I guess it just depends on your perspective. If you are a diehard fan who has seen a band many times, you probably want to see a show with new or rare material.
I've seen the Stones six times and am not sure if I will see them again on this tour because they aren't playing enough new or rare stuff. If they announced tomorrow a series of shows where they would play the entire ABB album before getting to the classic material, I would hock all my possessions and get tickets for 5-6 shows at least. That would be a dream, unlike the boring setlists we are getting now.
The same with The Who from my perspective. I have seen them several times and was glad to see at least one tour where they didn't play the same hits over and over (great as those hits may be). But I can understand that if someone is seeing a band for the first time they usually want the hits, which is why you were disappointed with the Who in '97 when they were playing Quadrophenia.
If I went to see Neil Young and he just played Greendale I'd be disappointed, because I've never seen him and want to hear the "classic" songs the first time. But I'm sure a diehard Neil fan who has seen him a bunch of times was thrilled to get new material. That's why I don't buy a ticket to a major band these days without checking out the reviews online first. I want to have an idea what they're playing in advance in case it's not what I want to hear!
> The only more disappointing gig I ever attended > was that disastrous Who "Quadrophenia" tour... you > keep thinking and hoping, when are they gonna play > something besides this junk... but you got like 2 > non-Quadro songs.
Hold on a second, you went to see a Who show that was clearly advertised as a presentation of the album "Quadrophenia" (an album you admit to hating) and then express surprise and disappointment that they played the whole album?
Why on earth did you buy a ticket?
Its a concept album. If you present it as a story, you'd hardly expect them to play only 3 or 4 songs from it?
if you went to see 'Hamlet', would you expect to see just a couple of acts from it, followed by a soliloquoy from 'Macbeth' ?
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Gazza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > The only more disappointing gig I ever > attended > > was that disastrous Who "Quadrophenia" > tour... you > > keep thinking and hoping, when are they gonna > play > > something besides this junk... but you got > like 2 > > non-Quadro songs. > > > Hold on a second, you went to see a Who show that > was clearly advertised as a presentation of the > album "Quadrophenia" (an album you admit to > hating) and then express surprise and > disappointment that they played the whole album? > > Why on earth did you buy a ticket? > > Its a concept album. If you present it as a story, > you'd hardly expect them to play only 3 or 4 songs > from it? > > if you went to see 'Hamlet', would you expect to > see just a couple of acts from it, followed by a > soliloquoy from 'Macbeth' ? > > > > Edited 1 times. Last edit at 12/20/05 03:14 by > Gazza.
Not sure what I was thinking... something along the lines of "emphasis on Quadro with a good smattering of the classics..." ... could have handled that...
Like Neil's Greendale tour... he's got "Greendale" up there prominently on the poster, but you expect plenty of classics to go along with it.
Alot of bands tour behind the name of a particular album but it's not 100% songs from that CD...
"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."
ChelseaDrugstore Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh no Nickelbacvk!! Arrgh! How about Creed? They > could couint as quartete since that singer is so > fat.
Don't worry Chelsea, I'm not a big Nickleback fan. Hell, I only really like one song. I just threw it out there cause they are a quartet. As for Creed, that's funny! I hated Creed! Thankfully, they broke up! Now their former lead singer has decided to go solo! Arrgh indeed!
ChrisM Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Replacing Curly with Shemp is comparable with > replacing Mick Jagger with Wayne Newton. Just not > a good fit IMHO!
yeah ChrisM....but 'ol Wayne could work wonders on Streets of Love