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UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 17, 2005 18:57

I love every second of the album, from the first to the last.

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Posted by: J.J.Flash ()
Date: December 17, 2005 19:06

I am also a fan of it. I don't know why there are undercover bashers out there. It's pure Stones thru and thru.

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Posted by: phd ()
Date: December 17, 2005 19:07

Great. I forgot all about this album and Dirty work. Sounds everything but the Stones in my opinion.

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Posted by: Muddyw ()
Date: December 17, 2005 20:30

Great album! Love it!

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Posted by: mickijaggeroo ()
Date: December 17, 2005 21:13

Count me in.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

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Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: December 17, 2005 22:35

Great album!

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Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: December 17, 2005 22:49

Yeah it's a powerhouse album...plus it's a must to own the 12" of Undercover Of The Night with dub b-side Feel On Baby



ROCKMAN

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Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: December 18, 2005 00:42

We ought to start a fanclub with 100$ membership.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: December 18, 2005 00:46

i would consider myself a fan of the album. but, by Stones standards, it's only so-so.

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Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: December 18, 2005 02:03

It's the very first Stones album I bought when it came out in 1983, and it still is one of my faves. Yes it sounds dreadfully 80's, but it's a beautiful high energy album with Jagger at its best.

Mathijs

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Posted by: micawber ()
Date: December 18, 2005 02:29

The mix and the thin poppy guitar sound are crap.
The songs would be great if they'd been mixed like Tattoo You.

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Posted by: mandu ()
Date: December 18, 2005 03:08

i love undercover as well
fav song on the album is all the way down

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Posted by: Some Girl ()
Date: December 18, 2005 03:17

Every time I listen to Undercover, which isn't often, I enjoy it very very much, but have to pretend the slick production is not there. That drum machine on Undercover of the Night took some getting used to, not that I have a problem with drum machines... if New Order does it....

But anyway, I think both Undercover and Dirty Work would be badass minus the production, and are miles better than that bloated piece of crap BTB.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: December 18, 2005 03:22

mandu Wrote:
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> i love undercover as well
> fav song on the album is all the way down


good call. i think pain of love is the best song - but all the way down may be the most unheralded great stones song of them all.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 18, 2005 03:47

I registered onto this forum just to reply to this post. Undercover is what turned me on to the Stones. Undercover was my introduction to the Stones at age 13 and it was the first Stones album that I bought. I have been hooked since then. The machine gun rattle that opens the title song still echoes in my head like it is 1983. I just love this album and just dont undertand the mixed feelings among Stones fans with respect to this album.

After having heard aImost every Jagger/Richards song at least a 1000 times, I continue to believe that Undercover is stunningly well produced and mixed. In my opinion it is the only Stones album that perfectly blends the raw Stones sound with modern day production. Everything from the cover design (which as been mostly pathetic since then) to the lyrics, showcase carnage, relentless bloodletting and kinky sex. The sound is "tight", the guitars are loud, scratchy and have some of the most authentic Stones style leads guitars. The arrangements are compact and the song order makes the album cohesive.

For me UNDERCOVER is the last album where the STONES sound threatening and violent, unforced but dangerous, sleazy, gritty, ragged and natural. Undercover represents everything that I ever liked about this band and after the Big 4, Undercover continues to be my favorite Stones album

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Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 18, 2005 04:59

Interesting post, ws66... I'm a fan of the album too, but only so far.

It's great for me until "Wanna Hold You," which changes the mood and just doesn't fit. Might be ok later in the album, but overall there aren't enough good songs on the album to fulfill the statement that it opens with. Both sides kind of piffle out. I like "Too Tough," but "All the Way Down" is just ok, lightly entertaining, and "It Must Be Hell" starts off well--you can really hear the main players in the band interacting--but falls flat after that.

They certainly tried hard on this one. Is it better than Emotional Rescue, which sounds effortless yet might have more good songs?

I think what the album is missing is what all great stones albums have -- a well chosen cover! Maybe an old murder ballad... Are there any covers in the outtakes?

cc

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Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: December 18, 2005 05:45

Love it.

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Posted by: phd ()
Date: December 18, 2005 10:17

Can an average Stones fan can list instantly more than five tracks on these 2 albums. Doubt it. Hopefully, they could do it on Steel Wheels, VL, BTB and ABB.

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Posted by: wild_horse_pete ()
Date: December 18, 2005 13:31

I never get into this album, don`t now why, it`s just don`t get me. So for me it`s one of the worst albums.

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Posted by: thrak ()
Date: December 18, 2005 14:14

when i travel coast to coast - the best line

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Posted by: Four Stone Walls ()
Date: December 18, 2005 15:57

Love some of the songs ..... a lot. Great Charlie. Best of Bill. Guitars on fire.

BUT.....it is not a well balanced album.....just too much up-tempo stuff and not even one ballad.

(For all its bad press Dirty Work was well balanced).

Pretty Beat Up is a throwaway track. Nice groove but goes nowhere. A good out-take.

Must Be Hell is one of their all-time worst tracks. So manufactured. The lines 'Living in the world, suffering in the world like you' and the accompanying instrumentation are clumsy and embarassingly bad. So much cliched stuff on that one track, it's hard to believe. A bad out-take, (dressed up/produced to look like a classic).

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Posted by: Wild Slivovitz ()
Date: December 18, 2005 18:08

I like it so much...except Wanna Hold You!

"got to be worked on
don't have no bark nor bite..."

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 18, 2005 18:22

Some good stuff, some unadultereated lame crap. A very uneven record.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 18, 2005 19:52

all that white, man
it don't come close

(lyrics about drugs)

with a razor
don't you cut me up
don't you coke me up
don't you coke me up



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-12-18 19:52 by everything's turnin'.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 18, 2005 20:12

Does he really sing that in "PBU"? I'll have to give it a listen. Love that song... or "song," really -- no writing went into that one!

cc

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 18, 2005 20:23

Yeah, if you listen closely, he really sings that. Earlier he sings:

Can't you aid a sick man?
Never beat the stick, man.

(The stick being the hypodermic syringe.)

Also:

Your bass is a mess!
It's a bass!!!!

(Screaming to Keith or Ronnie who is @#$%&-up and trying to play a bass, thinking it's a guitar.)

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Posted by: cc ()
Date: December 18, 2005 20:26

Interesting...

I thought it was "My face is a mess/It's a mess!"
(since she beat him up).

I don't have the track handy, tho'.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 18, 2005 20:50

Well, it could be that way. But you know how Mick Jagger sings...

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Posted by: poor immigrant ()
Date: December 18, 2005 20:52

The last true Rolling Stones 'as a band rather than an idea' album.

Re: UNDERCOVER fans post here
Date: December 19, 2005 00:49

Who plays bass on 'Pretty Beat Up'?

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